will paul williams crush pavlik?

punish him with a hundred pitty pat slaps? Williams couldnt' even budge a ww in margarito and he's supposed to make a middle weight quit? Edison miranda, Jermain taylor, bernard hopkins couldn't stop pavlik yet pwill can? Nuthugging a bit aren't you? I guess, putting quin on his butt, Andy Kolle on his butt and making Verno Phillips quit on his stool is just over looked. Let me see, those was just nobody guys? Agree, they not no Tayor, Miranda and old man hopkins. Thats what they said about Rito before he got laid out. This is boxing and anything can happen correct? Pavlik is no push over but aren't you just deep throating a little to deep? Williams could end up tasting the mat too.

wow at least i know the level that im debating with. Have fun debating yourself. At least? What's at most? Funny guy.

Huh? When did I even mention head movement? And can you explain how Hopkins made Pavlik stop moving his head? I don't recall him grabbing Kelly's face and demanding he keep it still. wow at least i know the level that im debating with. Have fun debating yourself.

you claimed he had no head movement during the hopkins fight. That was hopkins being hopkins that caused that. Pwill can't do the same. Pwill's footwork is horrible. Pwill slaps from a distance as much as he can. Pwill will not beat pavlik, you can bet your house on it. Huh? When did I even mention head movement? And can you explain how Hopkins made Pavlik stop moving his head? I don't recall him grabbing Kelly's face and demanding he keep it still.

I'm not comparing them...wtf? you claimed he had no head movement during the hopkins fight. That was hopkins being hopkins that caused that. Pwill can't do the same. Pwill's footwork is horrible. Pwill slaps from a distance as much as he can. Pwill will not beat pavlik, you can bet your house on it.

williams is no where near what hopkins is. Horrible comparison. Pavlik is going to whoop williams so bad! I'm not comparing them...wtf?

That's what they said about rito until he got his a## smashed. Pavlik only comes forward and one two with no defence at all. PW has too much movement, speed and defence. PW defense is ok but his movement makes up for that. I think Williams will punish pavlik and make him quit. punish him with a hundred pitty pat slaps? Williams couldnt' even budge a ww in margarito and he's supposed to make a middle weight quit? Edison miranda, Jermain taylor, bernard hopkins couldn't stop pavlik yet pwill can? Nuthugging a bit aren't you?

You think so? Pavlik likes to lead so much. He did so little every time Hopkins flurried--just covered up and waited for it to end. williams is no where near what hopkins is. Horrible comparison. Pavlik is going to whoop williams so bad!

pavlik is so overrated its that simple. of course anyone who ko's edison miranda and jermain taylor are overrated.

Pwill has good head movement but kelly will punch back while pwill is flurrying. That's when he's the most vulnerable. Pwill won't just t off like hop with one or two punches then bounce. I see pwill working his way into a points victory. You think so? Pavlik likes to lead so much. He did so little every time Hopkins flurried--just covered up and waited for it to end.

That's what they said about rito until he got his a## smashed. Pavlik only comes forward and one two with no defence at all. PW has too much movement, speed and defence. PW defense is ok but his movement makes up for that. I think Williams will punish pavlik and make him quit. Pwill has good head movement but kelly will punch back while pwill is flurrying. That's when he's the most vulnerable. Pwill won't just t off like hop with one or two punches then bounce. I see pwill working his way into a points victory.

its finally good to see Williams fighting somebody his own size!

We might see another Pavlik/B-Hop here.

Hell no. If Pwill wins, it's by UD. And I think he gets KTFO anyway.

Have you seen the shots Pavlik has taken? Have you seen the dudes that landed square on his chin? That's what they said about rito until he got his a## smashed. Pavlik only comes forward and one two with no defence at all. PW has too much movement, speed and defence. PW defense is ok but his movement makes up for that. I think Williams will punish pavlik and make him quit.

tell me why you think he wont ko him Have you seen the shots Pavlik has taken? Have you seen the dudes that landed square on his chin?

I don't think there's any way paul crushes him, outpoints him- yes. Pavlik's chin is no joke.

I think Williams will smother him with punches the way he smothered Winky. But Pavlik could hurt Williams cus of his power, but i don't know if he'll be able to out think Williams. I like Kelly Pavlik, but he does come in str8 ahead. I didn't see the Rubio fight, but i'm sure he beat him with ease with his power. Team Pavlik's gotta put together a gameplan to neutralize Williams. That's going to be a big problem. His trainer sux, and has never "gameplanned" well against boxers. I still think he needs to drop Loew, but not before this fight. he should have dropped him after bhop, then had a few defenses against some of the MW no-name contenders.

williams will be a lot smarter in this and wise to pavliks power but i just see williams being to quick and slick with his combinations and switch hitting from head to body will be to classy for pavlik

Williams hasn't crushed no one except Quintana. Crushing Pavlik is out of the question.