MMA fans....help me out....

Some people had Griffin favourite purely from the weight advantage. A 205er v a 185er Skillwise it was no contest. Griffin is average talent at best but has heart

There's mmore force behind a punch with gloves on, Because of the extra weight, but it is more spread out and cushioned by the padding, so the ko power is reduced. It's like hitting someone in the jaw with a 5lb metal bar and a 6lb metal bar with a 1lb cushion of some kind covering it... The lighter bar with nothing on it would still cause more damage because of the harder surface material, agreed? Well, it's the same thing as a bone punch and a gloved punch it's much easier to knock someone out with no gloves, and even easier to create cuts with no gloves not to mention it takes much less effort to throw a punch without the added weight of gloves In the bareknuckle days, fighters would fight just as long if not longer than they do now. The problem? They broke their hands. Why were gloves implemented? To protect the hands. If there is more impact on 4oz gloves compared to that of 8oz gloves than its literally minimal at best. All the studies ive read indicate the impact is just about the same. And their is a huge difference between the fighters delivering those punches in MMA and boxing. In boxing, the impact is going to be harder. Why? Boxers simply have a better understanding of weight distribution, weight transfer, technical aspects of punching which would allow them to punch about as hard as a human could possibly punch.

I can feel that analogy but let me continue with it... MMA is to Boxing what Arena Football is to the NFL. Boxing is just boxing, it is what is and it will continue to be what it will. MMA tries to implement all aspects of legal street fighting. Both sports however do take that you have something going for you. MMA has evolved while boxing has stayed the same. MMA is not for everyone just as boxing is not for everyone. How people are shocked that Lesnar is a champion should be of no shock as we have Vlad Klitty as a champion too. http://www.wsu.edu/~delahoyd/frankenstein.jpg

Griffin is the Ricky Hatton of MMA Silva is the Manny Pacquiao of the MMA. :boxing: I can feel that analogy but let me continue with it... MMA is to Boxing what Arena Football is to the NFL.

Griffin is the Ricky Hatton of MMA Silva is the Manny Pacquiao of the MMA. :boxing:

There's mmore force behind a punch with gloves on, Because of the extra weight, but it is more spread out and cushioned by the padding, so the ko power is reduced. It's like hitting someone in the jaw with a 5lb metal bar and a 6lb metal bar with a 1lb cushion of some kind covering it... The lighter bar with nothing on it would still cause more damage because of the harder surface material, agreed? Well, it's the same thing as a bone punch and a gloved punch it's much easier to knock someone out with no gloves, and even easier to create cuts with no gloves not to mention it takes much less effort to throw a punch without the added weight of gloves

Griffin is all hype, a result of The Ultimate Fighter show. Anyone who thought he was making it out of the first round against Silva was delusional.

Resto also had bricks in those handwraps of his. And the padding was alot less than 6oz. And Resto is a PROFESSIONAL BOXER not an MMA'er. Hes going to hit significantly harder. And glove size has very little do with KO's. In fact, its actually been proven that with bigger gloves you can actually transfer more momentum and even hit harder than if you were bareknuckle. The assertion that MMA guys are at more risk of being KO'd is stupid. They get KO'd because they arent for the most part strikers and dont have the punch resistance, recovery and chin to withstand the kind of punishment that a pro boxer endures. In boxing, you cant cut it with a bad chin. In MMA, you can conceivably rise to the top of the food chain without getting your chin tested. Thats impossible in boxing. +1 Great post and very true. The gloves are more for hand protection than face protection.

There are a 2 major difference between MMA and boxing. 1. The fighters at MMA are basically fighting with bare knuckles. I was just thinking that HBO did a special on Luis Resto, who took padding off his gloves and fought Collins and beat him severely. When I saw footage of the gloves that Resto used, it looked like it still had 5-6 ounces of padding. Yet MMA fighters use gloves that has less padding. So the probability of ko are higher. 2. MMA fighters do not get standing 8 count to regroup. So, it makes it look like MMA fighters are less able to withstand punches. Can you imagine how many boxing matches would have been stopped if they took away a boxers chance to clear his head. Resto also had bricks in those handwraps of his. And the padding was alot less than 6oz. And Resto is a PROFESSIONAL BOXER not an MMA'er. Hes going to hit significantly harder. And glove size has very little do with KO's. In fact, its actually been proven that with bigger gloves you can actually transfer more momentum and even hit harder than if you were bareknuckle. The assertion that MMA guys are at more risk of being KO'd is stupid. They get KO'd because they arent for the most part strikers and dont have the punch resistance, recovery and chin to withstand the kind of punishment that a pro boxer endures. In boxing, you cant cut it with a bad chin. In MMA, you can conceivably rise to the top of the food chain without getting your chin tested. Thats impossible in boxing.

Griffin is mostly a grappler who tries to brawl in order to please the fans, he has a weak chin and no power so he was perfect for Silva. Your friends must not watch much MMA is they favoured Griffin, he was a big underdog. Actually Griffin isnt much of anything. Hes considered DECENT at everything, not particularly good at anything. And to the thread starter, I have no doubt that a mid-level cruiser would wipe the floor with a guy like Griffin. And your friends favouring Griffin need to get their head examined.

anybody that really follows mma knew that forrest was gonna lose. a clean shot with small gloves like that could put almost any pro boxer down. and yes that card was very boring aside from the 2 main event fights. A clean shot? Did you watch the f'n fight? The guy was going backwards and he flicked his right hand at him. You MMA guys who defend the indefensible kill me.

anybody that really follows mma knew that forrest was gonna lose. a clean shot with small gloves like that could put almost any pro boxer down. and yes that card was very boring aside from the 2 main event fights.

this thread isn't a WW. JWW threads should stay in NBT. This thread has no business being here.

Da fukk this doin in NSB?

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Hey D.C read above. And yeah, The Aaron Riley fight really killed the mood. There we much better fights in the prelim they could have shown. There are a 2 major difference between MMA and boxing. 1. The fighters at MMA are basically fighting with bare knuckles. I was just thinking that HBO did a special on Luis Resto, who took padding off his gloves and fought Collins and beat him severely. When I saw footage of the gloves that Resto used, it looked like it still had 5-6 ounces of padding. Yet MMA fighters use gloves that has less padding. So the probability of ko are higher. 2. MMA fighters do not get standing 8 count to regroup. So, it makes it look like MMA fighters are less able to withstand punches. Can you imagine how many boxing matches would have been stopped if they took away a boxers chance to clear his head.

I watched that shit last night at my friends house cause they like it, and even they were saying it was boring and not worth the money they payed. I seriously almost fell aslepp during the fights. WTF is up with Griffin getting knocked out by a half assed straight right hand while Silva was going backwards. Overall it was shit read above. And yeah, The Aaron Riley fight really killed the mood. There we much better fights in the prelim they could have shown.

I watched that shit last night at my friends house cause they like it, and even they were saying it was boring and not worth the money they payed. I seriously almost fell aslepp during the fights. WTF is up with Griffin getting knocked out by a half assed straight right hand while Silva was going backwards. Overall it was shit

SO Griffin being disposed of with a flicking jab from a man going backwards did not surprise you? With Silva (or Machida), no, not really.

Griffin is mostly a grappler who tries to brawl in order to please the fans, he has a weak chin and no power so he was perfect for Silva. Your friends must not watch much MMA is they favoured Griffin, he was a big underdog. This. Also, Silva dislocated Forrest's jaw during the first knockdown. Griffin was already hurting. He was taking major damage to the jaw and lost an eardrum at the second knockdown. After that, he was puddin. And the reason he ran to the back was that he really needed medical attention as soon as possible.