As soon as he's eligible? He's continued to act as though he was never guilty of anything. He blames his trainer Capetillo yet has never reacted as though Capetillo has committed any act against him.. On the flip side, I'm sure a lot of fans will say Margarito has served his time. I'm sure in light of "Assault in the Ring," there is less tolerance for cheating as it really illustrated the health risks of cheating. So, when Margarito license is eligible for review, should he be reinstated? Poll to follow, Please discuss.
I don't think steroids give the same sort of dangerous edge that concrete handwraps give. Mosley beat De La Hoya but didn't cause him serious injury. Resto beat Collins and Collins lost his career.. I agree it's an edge and a relatively dangerous one, but I don't think it is the same level of danger.
I'll agree that its not as dangerous as hitting a man with plaster, (worst case scenerio would be steroids and plaster i guess) but I think both should result in permanent bans, i think harsher penalties would either result in less steroid use, or better ways to hide it, also all those boxers that cry "its my livelyhood don't take it away" would think twice about cheating. I do believe that its best to do this when there aren't cases pending though, rather than taking one boxer or the other and making an example out of him.
I say yes, only because other cheaters don't get perma-banned, and there is no ACTUAL proof that he used plaster, there is proof he intended on using it, and that could be argued as well, one could say that he would have noticed on his way to the ring that his hands were hardening and said "OMG somethings in my gloves, we need new wraps" (that wouldnt have happened obv, but i'm playing lawyer/devil's advocate here)
Breakdown
1) No proof that he's ever in fact used plaster (proof being the key word, not just circumstantial evidence, or obvious conclusions, but actual proof he's used plaster in a fight)
2) People who use steriods have an unfair advantage and are also dangerous to their opponents, and they don't get banned permanently
So I think as it stands now, he should be reinstated, but there should be rules made in the athletic commissions that any fighter who knowingly cheats is permanently banned from the sport of boxing, but this decision needs to be made when there are no cases pending.
I don't think steroids give the same sort of dangerous edge that concrete handwraps give. Mosley beat De La Hoya but didn't cause him serious injury. Resto beat Collins and Collins lost his career.. I agree it's an edge and a relatively dangerous one, but I don't think it is the same level of danger.
I say yes, only because other cheaters don't get perma-banned, and there is no ACTUAL proof that he used plaster, there is proof he intended on using it, and that could be argued as well, one could say that he would have noticed on his way to the ring that his hands were hardening and said "OMG somethings in my gloves, we need new wraps" (that wouldnt have happened obv, but i'm playing lawyer/devil's advocate here)
Breakdown
1) No proof that he's ever in fact used plaster (proof being the key word, not just circumstantial evidence, or obvious conclusions, but actual proof he's used plaster in a fight)
2) People who use steriods have an unfair advantage and are also dangerous to their opponents, and they don't get banned permanently
So I think as it stands now, he should be reinstated, but there should be rules made in the athletic commissions that any fighter who knowingly cheats is permanently banned from the sport of boxing, but this decision needs to be made when there are no cases pending.
I'm having a tough time with this one, Margs is one of my favorite fighters, but his actions were repulsive to say the least. I don't think he can recover from this mess he created, so what's the point in allowing him back. No one will want to fight him and he's always gonna have to carry with the burden of being a cheater.
Only way for him to regain some sort of credibility would be to come back (if allowed) and win vs Clottey/Williams/Cotto, etc while getting thoroughly examined and accepting 10% or less cuts form those fights. Harsh enough? I Think so, deserved? you bet your ass.
As soon as he's eligible? He's continued to act as though he was never guilty of anything. He blames his trainer Capetillo yet has never reacted as though Capetillo has committed any act against him.. On the flip side, I'm sure a lot of fans will say Margarito has served his time. I'm sure in light of "Assault in the Ring," there is less tolerance for cheating as it really illustrated the health risks of cheating. So, when Margarito license is eligible for review, should he be reinstated? Poll to follow, Please discuss.
Of course he's done that. He's skeered of losing his livlihood.
He should NEVER be reinstated.
It's true. She hooked it up. I like that the cat is apparently a southpaw, which might give Charlie trouble. Plus he never stops punching which Zelenoff hates.
On topic: I agree. If Margs can't show remorse and accept his punishment then he has no right stepping back in the ring. If he accepts what happened and graciously serves the (light) sentence then there's no reason he shouldn't be welcomed back.
There's so much money to be made through Margarito, one has to assume he'll be reinstated immediately. However, I wouldn't be all that shocked if the comission decided to keep him suspended for a short while longer.. Everyone should see this excerpt from Dan Rafael's blog. Although I don't always hold Rafael in the highest regard, I agree completely with him in this situation:
"If Margarito truly didn't know that Capetillo had loaded his hand wraps, as he claims, wouldn't he be angry at Capetillo? Don't you think he'd be keeping his distance? Don't you think he would have dumped him by now for trying to cheat, causing his license to be revoked and severely damaging his career?
Instead, Margarito is still with Capetillo, making it even more difficult to believe his story that he didn't know what the trainer was doing. If I'm on the California commission and responsible for deciding whether Margarito gets his license back, the scene of him being so chummy with Capetillo certainly disappoints me, erodes any shred of credibility his story has and makes it difficult for me to vote in favor of relicensing him. By hanging around with Capetillo, Margarito is sending the wrong message to California regulators, as well as many of the folks who would like to give him the benefit of the doubt but find it almost impossible."
Flaps, I love my Signature but it looks like your gf took extra special care of you! That Kitten has power in both hands. I still think Zelenoff would drop the feline with a right hook to the midsection.. knock his whiskers off. Back to the subject though, Margarito shouldn't be taking the stance that denial means he's absolved. Admission/remorse is his only route.
It's true. She hooked it up. I like that the cat is apparently a southpaw, which might give Charlie trouble. Plus he never stops punching which Zelenoff hates.
On topic: I agree. If Margs can't show remorse and accept his punishment then he has no right stepping back in the ring. If he accepts what happened and graciously serves the (light) sentence then there's no reason he shouldn't be welcomed back.
Yea he should be allowed to fight again....Mosley is still fighting with out any reperscussions...why not Margarito??? There is still no PROOF that he ever actually used plaster in a fight..
If he was banned for 2 years he should absolutely be banned for 2 years. I feel that 2 years is a light sentence for what he did.
Ultimately I would like to see him come back and try to redeem himself, but first he has to serve his time, act like he is sorry, and earn back the trust of the community. If he can do that, welcome back, if he is going to try and cut that time short then I feel like he doesn't see anything wrong in what he did and shouldn't be allowed back.
Flaps, I love my Signature but it looks like your gf took extra special care of you! That Kitten has power in both hands. I still think Zelenoff would drop the feline with a right hook to the midsection.. knock his whiskers off. Back to the subject though, Margarito shouldn't be taking the stance that denial means he's absolved. Admission/remorse is his only route.
If he was banned for 2 years he should absolutely be banned for 2 years. I feel that 2 years is a light sentence for what he did.
Ultimately I would like to see him come back and try to redeem himself, but first he has to serve his time, act like he is sorry, and earn back the trust of the community. If he can do that, welcome back, if he is going to try and cut that time short then I feel like he doesn't see anything wrong in what he did and shouldn't be allowed back.
all these juicing, criminal ass mofos can get it why cant margo. what, is there a double standard in boxing or what. plus, we all know that plaster deal is BS anyways.
What do you mean by "that plaster deal" being BS?
all these juicing, criminal ass mofos can get it why cant margo. what, is there a double standard in boxing or what. plus, we all know that plaster deal is BS anyways.
yes, that.
sure
all these juicing, criminal ass mofos can get it why cant margo. what, is there a double standard in boxing or what. plus, we all know that plaster deal is BS anyways.