I understand Cotto's point of view and respect it as well, but seriously, what's the point of Pacquiao fighting him if it's not for the belt. Definitely not for the recognition alone, it would be a big deal, but Pac could just easily go for Mosley or even better and bigger fight and wait for Mayweather. It's been reported that it was Arum's fault of announcing the fight prematurely before the negotiations was completed. I believe Pac's camp had every intention to fight for the belt, because what other incentives or reasons to fight Cotto other than the belt and hopefully getting that 7 titles in 7 different weight class record. I have a strong feeling that this fight is not going to happen, it's silly and unfortunate. I think it would've have been EPIC. But to be honest, Cotto is going to be a problem, a monumental problem for Pacquiao. Cotto is very strong and fast enough, but he does get hit alot, especially on the head. Crossing my fingers. Anyway, i'd like to hear any other reason for Pacquiao to fight Cotto other than the belt. Thanks guys.
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/214025/cotto-s-title-line-vs-pacquiao
who cares it's on the line. cotto fans want him to fight cotto cause cotto is their papi. stfu gtfo prepare for you man to take that 2nd L. have a good day
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Unless Pac agrees to fight at 147 I don't see why the belts should be on the line. It makes a sham of the sport. What's the point of weight divisions otherwise. This catchweight BS has got to stop
the point is the belt is not on the line because pacquiao wasnt man enough to fight at 147 were he didnt have to weight drain cotto im tired of all u pac nuthuggers that dont know sh!t about boxing and probably never laced up a pair of gloves in your life so u dnt understand the importance of weight and what two pounds does ...
Cotto himself said that 145lbs is not a problem and he usually goes down that much for the weigh in anyway, so regardless what i know about boxing or what you know about boxing, Cotto knows more about his body than you and i. So it's not a problem for him as he has stated.
"Its no concern of mine whether it is 145 pounds or not," Cotto said.
"That is the usual weight that we cut down to for the weigh in, and in the ring—on fight night—I will go up eight to 10 pounds, so actually during the fight I will weigh around 155," stated Cotto.
Legacy. plain and simple.
Listen Manny has already stated he wants tro fight for pride so leave it
That Legacy won't mean much without the title, plain and simple.
the point is the belt is not on the line because pacquiao wasnt man enough to fight at 147 were he didnt have to weight drain cotto im tired of all u pac nuthuggers that dont know sh!t about boxing and probably never laced up a pair of gloves in your life so u dnt understand the importance of weight and what two pounds does ...
except by dumb cotto stans.
same dumb cotto stans that think cotto would beat tito. lmfao
Did he say Cotto could beat Tito? lolsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
You are 100% right, he got caught BEFORE mosley fight. Let's use common sense. DO YOU Mr. Pink think that Margarito at his age and how long he has been fighting only started using plaster in mosley fight? Be honest with yourself. Ask yourself that question. I'm a Yankees fan but when Pettite says he only used steroids once I laugh. When Alex Rodriguez says he never knew what he took...I LAUGH. I saw that HBO special on Resto and when they talk about the plaster and what it did to Collin's face, i am SOOOOOOOOOOOO glad Cotto quit because he could've ended up like Collins.
whilst it remains a likely possibility, theres just no way we will find out. i defo think margaritos trainer is a bad egg.
only marg and his corner can answer that.
all i know is he's been fighting for a long time and only got caught once.
either nazim richardson is the only opposing cornermen who wasn't retarded or marg tried to cheat only that one time.
we'll never know.
a rematch would let us know for sure. not that we'll know if marg used it or not but if it mattered at all.
You are right, we will probably never know. But we can suspect someone to have cheated. You look at certain baseball players and don't know if they cheated but can assume they have. All i know is that when Mosley fought cotto, cotto did not have a scratch on his face. Remember, cotto fought a YOUNGER mosley and he connected with some very good shots at cotto's face. Then Cotto fights margarito and is doing very well for 6 rds, just like collins in the resto fight. Then all of a sudden both Collins and Cotto's face start swelling up. He could not swell up mosley's face(after he got caught) but could swell up cotto(who beat mosley). Cotto had NEVER, NEVER had a face like that even with very tough fights. Cotto's corner were idiots to not check his gloves, as a matter of fact, noone from cotto's team went to margarito's team. Do we have proof? NO, but i have a HUNCH that margarito cheated in that fight and a rematch might not prove that margarito had cheated. Sad !
no proof.
marg tried to cheat against mosley. that's all we know for sure. You are 100% right, he got caught BEFORE mosley fight. Let's use common sense. DO YOU Mr. Pink think that Margarito at his age and how long he has been fighting only started using plaster in mosley fight? Be honest with yourself. Ask yourself that question. I'm a Yankees fan but when Pettite says he only used steroids once I laugh. When Alex Rodriguez says he never knew what he took...I LAUGH. I saw that HBO special on Resto and when they talk about the plaster and what it did to Collin's face, i am SOOOOOOOOOOOO glad Cotto quit because he could've ended up like Collins.
cotto fans are really beginning to annoy me. you think pac is going to risk everything for nothing in return, while cotto has everything to gain against a smaller opponent. cotto and his fans can gtfo!!!!
I agree that Hatton has done very well in lightweight/jr welterweight divisions more than cotto. Agree.
in terms of titles won i meant to put, cotto has won 3 titles all of which were vacant werent they? cant remember! hatton has won 4 not including ring mag and IBO.
i dont disagree! all i said was hatton has accomplished more than cotto. which he has up to date. I agree that Hatton has done very well in lightweight/jr welterweight divisions more than cotto. Agree.
**** off you muppet.
Kostya Tszyu at 140
18 World Title Fights.
15 World Title Wins
2 World Title Loses
1 NC
5 World Title Wins on Home Soil
10 World Title Wins on Foreign Soil
11 World Title Wins by Stoppage
Only Undisputed 140 Champion.
Overall held a 140 Title Belt 9 years and 7 months.
Aaron Pryor
11 World Title Fights
11 World Title wins
11 World Title wins on Home Soil.
9 World Title Wins by Stoppage
Never Unified the division.
Overall Held a Belt for 4 years and 11 months
Julio C Chavez at 140
23 World Title Fights
18 World Title Wins
3 World Title Loses
2 World Title Draws
13 World Title wins by Stoppage
6 World Title Fights on Home Soil
17 World Title Fights on Foreign Soil
Unified 2 belts
Overall Held a 140 belt 7 years and 1 month
Antonio Cervantes
21 World Title Fights
18 World Title Wins
3 World Title Loses
12 World Title Stoppages
4 World Title fights on Home Soil
17 World Title Fights on Foreign Soil
Held 140 belt for a total of 6 Years and 9 Months
Based on resume, whether or not he is in the top 5 doesn't even need discussing.
Based on ability and rated in a head to head sense, in his prime, Tszyu is in the top 5 at any weight, in the history of the sport. He was simply that good.
I respect that, but we all know that certain fighters in certain divisions dominated but if put in the ring against a good fighter from a higher division, will not. Tsyu is a VERY good fighter who only lost 2 fights and beat alot of good lightweights but maybe does not belong in the welterweight division as cotto does not belong in the middleweight division. Pacquiao is one who dominated from lower divisions to lightweight division. Pacquiao destroyed a fighter (Hatton) who we all know does not belong in 141-147 division. Hatton belongs in lightweight/jr welterweight division as Tszyu belongs in lightweight or jr welterweight and as cotto does NOT belong in light middleweight.