I wouldn't mind seeing the old men scrap for a second time. They can both not do enough to clearly win the fight and then complain about the verdict. It will make for great controversy.
I Think Hopkins should give Dawson his shot at greatness or GTFO of 175! He's In the way of Dawson getting that Ring belt, and quite frankly Dawson deserves It IMO. Especially If he beats Johnson again.
Typical Hopkins though, playing and twisting our nipples.
Hopkins should have entered that SMW tourney and that's his 3rd weightless title right there.
I would rather watch paint dry then to see this fight in all honesty.
The only fight Hopkins should be contemplating is Dawson, and I don't want to hear about Dawson pulling 25 people to see his last fight because i'm fucked if Johnson - Hopkins would do more PPV then Hopkins - Dawson. Hell, i think that fight would do more then that clinic against Pavlik?
Luckily Hopkins isn't one of those guys all about the money.
It's an obvious incentive for him, but lately he seems much more concerned with another legacy fight.
Which is crazy when you look at his legacy as it stands already.
I think he's either gunning to be a 3 division Champion (Cruiserweight or Super Middleweight, if possible), or a two time Light Heavyweight Champion.
I would rather watch paint dry then to see this fight in all honesty.
The only fight Hopkins should be contemplating is Dawson, and I don't want to hear about Dawson pulling 25 people to see his last fight because i'm fucked if Johnson - Hopkins would do more PPV then Hopkins - Dawson. Hell, i think that fight would do more then that clinic against Pavlik?
I don't know...he must be using a spell checker:lol1:
WHO I AM!!!
Yeah, but at certain times I read his stuff and it sounds just like how Hopkins would word it.
I don't look to fight anyone, in boxing you just take fights which present themselves.
Showtime has made the tournament to sell euro fighters to the US market.
he hasnt beaten a real fighter for 6 years.
That all sounds like vintage Bernard to me. :lol1:
Not exactly sure what Dawson weighs on fight night. It's definitely more than 180 though. I think I remember him and Tarver coming in around 185 for their rematch.
Dawson is smarter than Pavlik and fights a different style. I think you have to look at the Taylor fights for Bernard's blueprint to beating Dawson. If Hopkins throws more and clinches more (as you suggest), he would have a great chance against Dawson. If Hopkins is complacent and throws one at a time, he will lose.
I think Dawson is a decent fighter, but he's not on the level that people hype him up to be. The fact that you don't view this fight as a blow out for either guy shows how objective you are about this potential match up though. So props for that. But people who think Dawson should be heavily favored in this fight don't know how to analyze match ups. Dawson has a horrible weakness of not defending well against straight right hands, and there's a good chance that Hopkins would feed off of that. And even though Hopkins lost to Calzaghe and Taylor by close margins, Dawson lacks the aggressiveness and the go-get-it attitude that those guys did. I think Hopkins would stop Dawson or win a comfortable UD. I also think Glen Johnson will take Dawson back to hell again regardless of who wins that fight.
Wrong. Dawson has a great chance of beating Hopkins. I would favor him
Hopkins does best against plodding fighters who aren't as active (Tito, Pavlik, Tarver) but struggles to win rounds against active fighters who throw a lot of punches (Taylor, Calzaghe). Dawson is not plodding and he throws a lot of combinations. Hopkins would more than likely lose a close UD and complain about the result.
Pavlik, Tito, and tarver not active? Those guys throw more than Taylor. And Pavlik wa sknown to throw at least 80 punches a round.
I dont look to fight anyone, in boxing you just take fights which presents themselves.
The only fight i truly want is the Calzaghe rematch but we know how that goes, i've offered Adamek the fight, Froch and some other people but you got to know im not fighting on showtime or any network other than HBO, Showtime has made the tournament to sell euro fighters to the US market.
What about Dawson?
I dont look to fight anyone, in boxing you just take fights which presents themselves.
The only fight i truly want is the Calzaghe rematch but we know how that goes, i've offered Adamek the fight, Froch and some other people but you got to know im not fighting on showtime or any network other than HBO, Showtime has made the tournament to sell euro fighters to the US market.
Roy can say what he likes, after i beat Trinidad i constantly called for the fight. He wanted 60-40 or no fight, who had he beat? he was fighting stiffs at light heavyweight and priced himself out of the fight.
Now today he wants the fight but he wants to do it 50-50, i dont need Roy now and even if we fought no way would he get 50/50 today when he hasnt beaten a real fighter for 6 years.
No offense but Roy is still a bigger attraction and the more entertaining fighter.
Who do you want next then?
Roy can say what he likes, after i beat Trinidad i constantly called for the fight. He wanted 60-40 or no fight, who had he beat? he was fighting stiffs at light heavyweight and priced himself out of the fight.
Now today he wants the fight but he wants to do it 50-50, i dont need Roy now and even if we fought no way would he get 50/50 today when he hasnt beaten a real fighter for 6 years.
The Roy Jones i faced was not punch drunk, roy never gave me a rematch either but i can live with that. Your Bernard Hopkins and Glen Johnsons of the world are leagues apart.
Fair enough. I thought you didn't want the rematch either though. I've heard the rematch not happening was both of your faults.
The Roy Jones i faced was not punch drunk, roy never gave me a rematch either but i can live with that. Your Bernard Hopkins and Glen Johnsons of the world are leagues apart.
Tarver is taller than Dawson, but Dawson has almost 2 inches on Tarver in reach.
Dawson's 6'1" with a 76 and a half inch reach. Hopkins is 6'1" with a 75 inch reach.
Weight wise, Hopkins would be about 180 on fight night. What's Dawson usually come in at on fight night?
Side note ; I also think the left hook would be a key tool for Hopkins against Dawson. Used to follow up the right hand.
In recent years Hopkins has been content to just land the right by itself with no follow up, but against Pavlik he followed it up with the left hook and had great success with it.
I don't think Kelly was anticipating that, and maybe Dawson wouldn't either.
And if the fight goes off, I'll bet you on it for sure. :fing02:
Not exactly sure what Dawson weighs on fight night. It's definitely more than 180 though. I think I remember him and Tarver coming in around 185 for their rematch.
Dawson is smarter than Pavlik and fights a different style. I think you have to look at the Taylor fights for Bernard's blueprint to beating Dawson. If Hopkins throws more and clinches more (as you suggest), he would have a great chance against Dawson. If Hopkins is complacent and throws one at a time, he will lose.
Would Dawson be the biggest man Hopkins has ever faced? That could be an issue.
Tarver is taller than Dawson, but Dawson has almost 2 inches on Tarver in reach.
Dawson's 6'1" with a 76 and a half inch reach. Hopkins is 6'1" with a 75 inch reach.
Weight wise, Hopkins would be about 180 on fight night. What's Dawson usually come in at on fight night?
Side note ; I also think the left hook would be a key tool for Hopkins against Dawson. Used to follow up the right hand.
In recent years Hopkins has been content to just land the right by itself with no follow up, but against Pavlik he followed it up with the left hook and had great success with it.
I don't think Kelly was anticipating that, and maybe Dawson wouldn't either.
And if the fight goes off, I'll bet you on it for sure. :fing02:
Well we know Dawson doesn't like pressure ; that much we do know.
Johnson gave him fits and he looked deeply disheartened several times during their fight.
Naturally, Hopkins won't fight Dawson like Johnson did.
But I think he would be throwing a lot more than people would be expecting from him fighting a moving target like Dawson.
He'd be landing the right hand at will because Dawson is a bit of a sucker for them at times, and nobody lands the right hand as well as Hopkins does over and over again, except for maybe Marquez.
Of course, Hopkins would tie up Dawson whenever he got the opportunity to smother his shots.
Movement, creating angles, landing the right hand, throwing a little more, and using the clinch.
That's how I think he beats Dawson.
If you remember ; Hopkins didn't clinch Taylor an awful lot in their fights.
He's learned since then that he needs to tie his man up when he's facing a speedy athletic type who throws lots of combos. (See ; Calzaghe.)
Fair enough. Dawson is definitely beatable, but I'm sticking by my opinion.
I'll hit you up for a bet if the fight ever materializes.
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