Floyd didn't start at 140 or 147 Luis. There is no one in boxing who has better resume, that is why he is the best in this era!
And again, Judah and Bladomir were ranked #1 and # 2 at WW when he fought them! Hatton was a top fighter in the sport period and lostless when Floyd beat him. He didn't know how to lose before that!!!!
cotto has never beat a champ ever!!!!! Don't that bother you?
Noone in boxing has a better resume than floyd?? Floyds cv before ww is pretty good but at WW its poor. For his talent his cv should be a lot better than it is, why isnt it?
Most elite fighters dont really care about belts, they have been there and done it. Its big fights and names that count. Cotto has beaten fighers who were champs in the past and have retaken belts. Btw cottos cv at WW is far superior than floyds, even though floyd is the better fighter, maybe floyd die hards should get on floyds case and tell him to stop talking and start fighting :angel:
I hope this hit list does exist, but i think once floyd gets pac he will hit the road again, i hope im wrong
Shane is gonna knock that boy's big head off his fukkin' shoulders :boxing:.....and he's NOT being real at all......he HOPES Manny wins so he can fight him and be the one to beat him......I hope Cotto spoils his plans and FORCE him to fight a REAL WW for a change.........fukkin' coward!!!
dont get it twisted......I'm far from a Floyd hater......skill for skill he's the man......but word for word......he's a earfull of contradiction......he's known for being elusive in the ring......one of the best escape artists in the game......same with his words......he avoids questions and makes the answers to smple questions seem so elusive......fukkin' chump!!.....Mosley is gonna put this dude to sleep......Trust Me!!!
What did Clottey exactly do to fight Cotto??? Beat Judah in an uninspiring performance
No shame to losing Margarito, I agree. But taking two knees when you were called a warrior is embarrassing. Before Cotto/Margarito, Cotto hype was overboard. Cotto breaks men, Cotto doesn't beat you he beats you UP. Rememeber all that hype. Instead of going out like a warrior he choose the Cowardly way out.
Williams had more at WW than Clottey has when he called out Cotto. He also held a belt
Clottey, Margarito, Cotto and Pacquiao are all TR fighters, does it surprise you their promoter gets them fights among themselves? Thats boxing for you. There was one good thing about Williams he MADE Margarito fight him, and could do the same thing with Cotto who is a bigger draw and bigger name but chooses not to. Lost to Margarito was nasty, Cotto took two knees, does it mean he's done? Obviously no, he came back to beat Clottey, who got a draw in my book vs Margo and is been ducked by the most avoided fighter in the planet, Williams. LOL
How did Williams had more than Clottey at WW at the time is debatable but it all comes down to the same promoter, more money, that'll do it every time.
For all your arguments, there's the responese, read them if you chose to. :bottle::wave:
What loops are you even talking about. Margarito and Clottey called out Cotto and got the fight. So Williams must be under Top rank to get a fight. How pathetic, boxing does have other promoters.
Cotto was never going to fight Williams after he schooled Maragarito. After Margarito forced him to take the knees like coward. It crushed Cotto's confidence.
Williams doesn't want to fight
Let's see the occasions when Williams called him out
After Margarito fight
After second Carlos Q fight
After Phillips fight
After Winky fight
:lol1::lol1:
Loop means your callout and ducking argument the man wants the fight, he knows what he has to do to get the fight but chooses not to. Margarito vs Cotto was a tough fight everyone knew it was gonna be. No shame on losing to Margarito, I saw a dead tired Cotto winning last three rounds to take the fight vs Clottey, how exactly did the Margarito fight take his confidence?However, Quintana fight was a gimme and a measuring stick to fight Cotto, we all know what happened on their second fight, but does that erase the beating he took on their first fight? wanna go there?
Now its TR's fault they get their fighters fight and don't take on Williams? If that pisses you off you gonna hate boxing son!
Williams wants the fight, yet choses not to fight in the division, LOL.
What loops are you even talking about. Margarito and Clottey called out Cotto and got the fight. So Williams must be under Top rank to get a fight. How pathetic, boxing does have other promoters.
Cotto was never going to fight Williams after he schooled Maragarito. After Margarito forced him to take the knees like coward. It crushed Cotto's confidence.
Williams doesn't want to fight
Let's see the occasions when Williams called him out
After Margarito fight
After second Carlos Q fight
After Phillips fight
After Winky fight
:lol1::lol1:
and what about when williams got schooled by quintana?? or why did he leave the WW division.
Clottey calls out Cotto gets a fight
Margarito calls out Cotto gets a fight
Williams calls out Cotto has to write a letter to WBO for him to ranked at WW :lol1:
Stopping Judah?? For vacant titles, and he wasn't even impressing
Didn't those two wins get him in the P4P list :lol1:
LOL, still in loops ha?:smashfrea Sadly for you, I dont think your boy wants the fight. I think he knows what he has to do but chooses to climb up to higher divisions and take on has beens or fight bums.
Same promoter, easy fight to make, where's your boy again?
LOL in a division where there's NO ONE! WOW WHAT AN ACCOMPLISMENT!:ugh:
Floyd didn't start at 140 or 147 Luis. There is no one in boxing who has better resume, that is why he is the best in this era!
And again, Judah and Bladomir were ranked #1 and # 2 at WW when he fought them! Hatton was a top fighter in the sport period and lostless when Floyd beat him. He didn't know how to lose before that!!!!
cotto has never beat a champ ever!!!!! Don't that bother you?
i'll tell you this....i'm a fan of the sport not of a specific fighter. and i rather watch ONE of my favorites fighter fighting against the best (quintana, judah, mosley, margarito, clottey) than watching him cherry picked fighters.(bruseles, judah, hatton at 147)
don't get me wrong. i never said that mayweather is bad. in fact he's one of the "best fighters" BUT he needs to grow some balls, keep his mouth shut and fight the best. also he looks great against bruseles and baldomir but look "good" against DLH and hatton. know what i mean?
cotto looked great against jennings but looked good against clottey
i'm a fan of the sport, i'm not blind
he never gives a straight answer! i dunno much about the money he got, but id bet de la hoya got more than him in their fight. and id also bet that hatton brought more money to the table than mayweather.
who did mayweather beat to say he is the best of his era??
let's see...he beat bruseles, circus with judah, baldomir, dlh and hatton at 147
cotto KO quintana, KO judah, beat mosley, cheato(*), beat clottey
mosley in cotto's resume is better than anything on mayweather resume on the Jr and WW
Floyd didn't start at 140 or 147 Luis. There is no one in boxing who has better resume, that is why he is the best in this era!
And again, Judah and Bladomir were ranked #1 and # 2 at WW when he fought them! Hatton was a top fighter in the sport period and lostless when Floyd beat him. He didn't know how to lose before that!!!!
cotto has never beat a champ ever!!!!! Don't that bother you?
And by the way....who did Cotto beat to become champion in any division?
who did mayweather beat to say he is the best of his era??
let's see...he beat bruseles, circus with judah, baldomir, dlh and hatton at 147
cotto KO quintana, KO judah, beat mosley, cheato(*), beat clottey
mosley in cotto's resume is better than anything on mayweather resume on the Jr and WW
Id say floyd saying that pac will never get 50/50 in a fight with him is just posturing. Camps put out a position and thats where the hard negeotiations begin. Pac does it too, the hatton fight was on/off before it was signed. Pac at the moment deserves 50/50 and if he beats cotto, then it could be argued that he should actually get more than 50%, but overall i think 50/50 is right for this fight. Two of the biggest stars in the game with an even split sounds about right. Floyds performance and numbers against marquez will be inportant too :angel:
As for common opponents and numbers. When hatton fought floyd hatton was undefeated and there was a buzz about the fight. Floyd exposed ricky as a good but not great fighter. When hatton and pac came around i knew pac would win so i ended up watching that fight online, as did many others. Floyd may have more of a point with de la hoya, but it could also be argued that his ship had also sailed after being beaten by floyd and putting in a poor performance against forbes. Floyd got to de la hoya and hatton first and pac well and truely finished them off, a kind of one two of the brutal kind. :smashfrea
That is all an excuse! fact is floyd does better with common opponents....floyd did better prior to Oscar and Hatton too. There is no evidence that supports that manny should get more $$$ than floyd.
Id say floyd saying that pac will never get 50/50 in a fight with him is just posturing. Camps put out a position and thats where the hard negeotiations begin. Pac does it too, the hatton fight was on/off before it was signed. Pac at the moment deserves 50/50 and if he beats cotto, then it could be argued that he should actually get more than 50%, but overall i think 50/50 is right for this fight. Two of the biggest stars in the game with an even split sounds about right. Floyds performance and numbers against marquez will be inportant too :angel:
As for common opponents and numbers. When hatton fought floyd hatton was undefeated and there was a buzz about the fight. Floyd exposed ricky as a good but not great fighter. When hatton and pac came around i knew pac would win so i ended up watching that fight online, as did many others. Floyd may have more of a point with de la hoya, but it could also be argued that his ship had also sailed after being beaten by floyd and putting in a poor performance against forbes. Floyd got to de la hoya and hatton first and pac well and truely finished them off, a kind of one two of the brutal kind. :smashfrea
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