The Winner of the Super Six Tourney :)

A p4p #4 past prime Hopkins still makes Froch, Abraham looks stupid, beats Dirrell and Ward, probably beats Kessler, and arguably beat Taylor once already. What the hell does that say for the winner? I'm not being pedantic. But it's true, seriously what does that say for them? This tourney is great but people are getting they're hype confused. One minute Taylor great next he's done. The Andre's are unproven olympic winners, do they always turn out great. Froch is a one dimensional far from GREAT, boxer. Abraham is good but never even fought at MW. And Kessler the best of the lot, already lost to whom was and would still be the best SMW. That is the bare facts of it, and Hopkins would still whip most of them now. Lets get excited peeps, but ALSO keep a grip on reality. ummm no, past prime hopkins does NOT beat ward or dirrell.

i agree thing is though im not a fan of calzaghe. but im meaning that if an American wins then all you will say it is greater but if on eof the euros win they will get no respect what so ever from you americans. first off, I'm not american. second, I think "white" americans are rooting for the white euro's more than they are the black americans. but thats just my opinion.

That's my point exactly Although I felt it could gon either way he did get a win over B-hop who then dismantled Pavlik, but even then B-hop was out of his prime and completely schooling until he stopped throwing punches for some reason :nonono: the reason being his age. thats why fighting fighters in their prime means something. and that is something that calzaghe hasn't done against any greats.

Okay. Well, Hopkins always has a chance to beat anyone of the top guys between SMW and LH, but which hopkins that shows up is also in question. Joe should have given B-hop a rematch (that's what champions do) seeing that he was getting whopped for the first 6 rds, i'm pretty sure in the rematch joe would have been destroyed but that's neither here or there There is a difference in speculating who would have beaten who and who actually beat whomever styles make fights my man and we're talking about actual resumes not what ifs Joe resume is built on past prime guys, his strongest argument is Kessler (if he wins the tourney) but that's another what-if isn't it -You've lost credibility if you seriously think Hopkins 'whipped' Calzaghe for the first 6 rounds. Even in the official scorecards, not a single judge, even the one scoring the fight for Hopkins by one measely point, gave ALL of the first 6 rounds to Hopkins. -Underlining the fact Hopkins gives anyone trouble at SMW to LHW only strengthens my argument. -Calzaghe has beaten numerous top 10 SMW guys whom were in there primes. They weren't as big names, some weren't quite as good. Some were, some though arguably better (Mitchell, Brewer, Reid). -The division is suddenly "deep" mainly because a load belts have suddenly become up for grabs. -Kesslers the best there, yet for yonks people having been giving him jip for not being so great. So how is a relatively new SMW, a completely new SMW, a couple of Olympic prospects, and a limited power puncher much better?

if kessler win it'll just prove that calzhage fought a great opponet. if anyone else win, then they're resume is 10x better than clazhage i agree. that way if kessler wins calzaghe will have the arguement that he beat the best of the best at 168 thus making HIM the best of the best. if anyone else should win this tournament it proves (to me at least) that calzaghe still has some work to do and his resume isnt all that great (well its not like i consider it to be that great anyway...i mean who has he beat? an older hopkins...an old rjj jr and jeff lacy...and kessler...thats it)... what about guys like taylor who have fought the best of the best...beat hopkins twice...lost to pavlik twice and froch (all 3 fights were winnable for him), fought wright (got a draw but its subject to arguement). taylor's resume (wins and losses and the quality of opponents) alone beats calzaghes if you ask me...and while calzaghe may have not lost any fights he's still not faced the level of competition that someone like taylor has. for a euro fighter that doesnt come to the U.S. hardly at all in his career his resume isnt that bad at all but when you look at some of the best that fight in the U.S. or are from the u.S. then you see a huge difference.

yep, in another thread he went buck wild, i lol'd i actually had to cut some of it out becuse it was so long it didnt fit in my sig. lol damn....

A p4p #4 past prime Hopkins still makes Froch, Abraham looks stupid, beats Dirrell and Ward, probably beats Kessler, and arguably beat Taylor once already. What the hell does that say for the winner? I'm not being pedantic. But it's true, seriously what does that say for them? This tourney is great but people are getting they're hype confused. One minute Taylor great next he's done. The Andre's are unproven olympic winners, do they always turn out great. Froch is a one dimensional far from GREAT, boxer. Abraham is good but never even fought at MW. And Kessler the best of the lot, already lost to whom was and would still be the best SMW. That is the bare facts of it, and Hopkins would still whip most of them now. Lets get excited peeps, but ALSO keep a grip on reality. Okay. Well, Hopkins always has a chance to beat anyone of the top guys between SMW and LH, but which hopkins that shows up is also in question. Joe should have given B-hop a rematch (that's what champions do) seeing that he was getting whopped for the first 6 rds, i'm pretty sure in the rematch joe would have been destroyed but that's neither here or there There is a difference in speculating who would have beaten who and who actually beat whomever styles make fights my man and we're talking about actual resumes not what ifs Joe resume is built on past prime guys, his strongest argument is Kessler (if he wins the tourney) but that's another what-if isn't it

*Just read TreadKilla's sig* whoa arargh you are kinda wild that's a bit of stretch don't you think? yep, in another thread he went buck wild, i lol'd i actually had to cut some of it out becuse it was so long it didnt fit in my sig.

i agree thing is though im not a fan of calzaghe. but im meaning that if an American wins then all you will say it is greater but if on eof the euros win they will get no respect what so ever from you americans. Do you make anything besides whining ass crying posts about Americans? I mean why do you always act like a twat?

*Just read TreadKilla's sig* whoa arargh you are kinda wild that's a bit of stretch don't you think?

the no. 4 guy was Hopkins (that subject has been beaten like a dead horse), but it was disputed and B-hop was not in his prime I see what you're trying to say but that's yet to be proven. We'll see after/if Kessler wins the tourney. A p4p #4 past prime Hopkins still makes Froch, Abraham looks stupid, beats Dirrell and Ward, probably beats Kessler, and arguably beat Taylor once already. What the hell does that say for the winner? I'm not being pedantic. But it's true, seriously what does that say for them? This tourney is great but people are getting they're hype confused. One minute Taylor great next he's done. The Andre's are unproven olympic winners, do they always turn out great. Froch is a one dimensional far from GREAT, boxer. Abraham is good but never even fought at MW. And Kessler the best of the lot, already lost to whom was and would still be the best SMW. That is the bare facts of it, and Hopkins would still whip most of them now. Lets get excited peeps, but ALSO keep a grip on reality.

Are any of these guys even in the p4p rankings? Not that Calzaghe did miles better, but at resume wise he beat p4p what #3/4 at the time, and already beat the best SMW in the tournament we so speak of. P4P rankings mean pretty close to shit lol

Are any of these guys even in the p4p rankings? Not that Calzaghe did miles better, but at resume wise he beat p4p what #3/4 at the time, and already beat the best SMW in the tournament we so speak of. the no. 4 guy was Hopkins (that subject has been beaten like a dead horse), but it was disputed and B-hop was not in his prime I see what you're trying to say but that's yet to be proven. We'll see after/if Kessler wins the tourney.

Are any of these guys even in the p4p rankings? Not that Calzaghe did miles better, but at resume wise he beat p4p what #3/4 at the time, and already beat the best SMW in the tournament we so speak of. You won't like the thread i made earlier today.

i agree thing is though im not a fan of calzaghe. but im meaning that if an American wins then all you will say it is greater but if on eof the euros win they will get no respect what so ever from you americans. i resent that remark Carl Froch is all power and no boxing skills but if he gets through all this I'll give him his credit other than my biasness toward JT I'm actually thinking that King Arthur or Kessler will win it

Are any of these guys even in the p4p rankings? Not that Calzaghe did miles better, but at resume wise he beat p4p what #3/4 at the time, and already beat the best SMW in the tournament we so speak of.

lol, bitterness. just face it man, calzaghe didn't beat any prime great fighters. That's my point exactly Although I felt it could gon either way he did get a win over B-hop who then dismantled Pavlik, but even then B-hop was out of his prime and completely schooling until he stopped throwing punches for some reason :nonono:

if an American wins then yes offcourse, if one of the europeans win it then no duh. lol, bitterness. just face it man, calzaghe didn't beat any prime great fighters.

Would the winner's resume at the conclusion of the super six tourney best Joe Calzaghe's resume? I think so :boxing: of course. no doubt about it.

hmph well then no argument there now is it? I expected more resistance O_O oh well