That English guy Carl Froch may have kicked Jermain Taylor's ass, but let's not go crazy over the guy just yet. Mikkel Kessler will easily beat him.
Also, Froch could never beat world-class fighters such as Chris Eubank and Bernard Hopkins.
Carl Froch would be greatly served by doing 4 things -
1) Keeping his hands up
2) Not throwing those wide looping punches and getting off balance
3) Sticking to the jab, jab, right (When he used this against Taylor, he was getting through)
4) Moving his head
His power, aggressiveness, and great chin, are great attributes to have. If he only tightened up his style and implemeted some of the above into his game, he would be much harder to outbox.
Don't be so stupid.
Taylor will not beat another top fighter for the rest of his career. I love how you discredit Froch but then turn around and say '.....but if Taylor wins'.
Like Taylor has more chance than Froch.
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Please read carefully before responding.
I wrote: "It would never happen". I was making a point, not a prediction.
People aren't understanding this thread. What thje OP is saying is that if Froch did win the tourney undefeated then his resume would be sick!
If! Remember, IF! They're not saying he will just IF!
Reid
Pascal
Taylor (twice)
Abraham (KO - only way this fight ends imo either man will get a KO)
Kessler (KO - same as above)
Ward
Dirrel
That would be a pretty sick resume all told. Especially if he topped it off by icing Bute once the man takes of his running shoes ha ha ha!
That's fine, but many of us are just saying it's unrealistic. You could sub out Froch's name with any of the participants and their resumes would be very comparable to Calzaghe's if they were to run through undefeated. Not to say they would be seen as better--after all, Kessler has lost to the man head-to-head, but the list of big wins would be comparable.
It would never happen, but if Jermain Taylor swept through this thing, he would have a Hall of Fame-worthy resume.
People aren't understanding this thread. What thje OP is saying is that if Froch did win the tourney undefeated then his resume would be sick!
If! Remember, IF! They're not saying he will just IF!
Reid
Pascal
Taylor (twice)
Abraham (KO - only way this fight ends imo either man will get a KO)
Kessler (KO - same as above)
Ward
Dirrel
That would be a pretty sick resume all told. Especially if he topped it off by icing Bute once the man takes of his running shoes ha ha ha!
Froch is a really slow and crude fighter (which is why so many discredit him as an A caliber fighter) with good power and he has lots of heart. Any decent fighter with a solid chin/stamina and good hand speed should beat him. I doubt Froch could win a round against Hopkins or Calzaghe.
I haven't been impressed by any of the yanks in the tourney, and I'm yet to be convinced by Abraham at 168.
On that basis, Froch has a chance although I can't see in what reality he takes Kessler. I'm not sure what that Taylor fight will do to him though ... if it gives him the confidence he can KO anyone then fine but he was a pretty distant 2nd on my card going into the 12th.
This thread is a bit mental though. Anyone with any sense knows that Calzaghe UD's Froch all day long and twice on Sundays. Hell it'd have been a mid round stoppage any time before 2007. Froch simply is incapable of making it onto a P4P Top 10 list because he isn't that good.
Kessler for me is the great unknown. Looked like shit in the first couple of rounds against Sartisan or whoever it was after the Calzaghe fight, but looked a lot better as he progressed and back to normal in the next fight. Will be interesting to see how he performs because if he's at his 2006/7 level I can't see anyone hanging with him.
This comes from someone who likes the kid and will be cheering him on!
hahaha as usual you yanks cant give credit to a brittish fighter. Carl Froch knocked taylor the **** out. and even if he would have gotten up jermaine would only have won by a split descision. I bet if it was the other way around with taylor knockin froch out in the last round while being behind on points you would say how a great win and a great comeback it was. ridicilous, Froch dont get the respect he deserves because he is brittish.
Preach brother!
what come on man right now the division is loaded with talent, has/is MW better?
even with all the quality of the super 6 we still have andrade, greene and bute who are top SMW's and could have been in the tourney.
imo joes best wins are hopkins, eubank and kessler. as for him not fighting hopkins in his prime well we have hopkins to thank for that fight not being made and the fight with johnson was postponed with injury but johnson decided to go elsewhere. theres a difference between postponing a fight and pulling out.
anyways part of me thinks that some of the defences on joes resume don't get the credit they deserve:
- sheika at the time of fighting calzahe only had one loss on his record and had just beat johnson when zaghe outclassed him, imo hed have some success with todays SMW's especially against taylor
- a prime robin reid was a quality opponent who only had one loss at the time to malinga (which i think he later avenged) and had held the WBC, IBO belts at 168, the consensus opinion is that he was robbed of a decision against ottke which would have given him the WBA belt as well. imo he would beat froch, andrade, taylor, the 2 olympians and imo give AA a very good run for his money.
- brewer was also a very good fighter who had been robbed in germany, he had a big right hand and would have some success vs taylor, andrade, ward and froch.
- byron mitchell was alot like brewer a strong fighter with a good right hand and had again been robbed in germany against ottke. from the current crop of SMW's he would have beat froch, the two olympians, possibly taylor and maybe andrade.
- lacy pre-calzaghe would have beat taylor, the two olympians and froch.
these are some of the less well known fighters on calzaghes resume and are often overlooked. obviousy the great wins for joe are over hopkins, kess and eubank. imo the biggest obstacle in calzaghes career was ottke, it prevented him from unifying the titles and his unwillingness to travel meant that the titles often switched hands, when the titles did eventually find a stable home in kessler JC unified them.
imo the best fighters in this tourney are kess and AA, any fighter who has these fguys on his resume is 70% (or 80% in mikkels case) of the way there to having the same quality resume as JC.
You did now that froch knocked him out?
what come on man right now the division is loaded with talent, has/is MW better?
even with all the quality of the super 6 we still have andrade, greene and bute who are top SMW's and could have been in the tourney.
imo joes best wins are hopkins, eubank and kessler. as for him not fighting hopkins in his prime well we have hopkins to thank for that fight not being made and the fight with johnson was postponed with injury but johnson decided to go elsewhere. theres a difference between postponing a fight and pulling out.
anyways part of me thinks that some of the defences on joes resume don't get the credit they deserve:
- sheika at the time of fighting calzahe only had one loss on his record and had just beat johnson when zaghe outclassed him, imo hed have some success with todays SMW's especially against taylor
- a prime robin reid was a quality opponent who only had one loss at the time to malinga (which i think he later avenged) and had held the WBC, IBO belts at 168, the consensus opinion is that he was robbed of a decision against ottke which would have given him the WBA belt as well. imo he would beat froch, andrade, taylor, the 2 olympians and imo give AA a very good run for his money.
- brewer was also a very good fighter who had been robbed in germany, he had a big right hand and would have some success vs taylor, andrade, ward and froch.
- byron mitchell was alot like brewer a strong fighter with a good right hand and had again been robbed in germany against ottke. from the current crop of SMW's he would have beat froch, the two olympians, possibly taylor and maybe andrade.
- lacy pre-calzaghe would have beat taylor, the two olympians and froch.
these are some of the less well known fighters on calzaghes resume and are often overlooked. obviousy the great wins for joe are over hopkins, kess and eubank. imo the biggest obstacle in calzaghes career was ottke, it prevented him from unifying the titles and his unwillingness to travel meant that the titles often switched hands, when the titles did eventually find a stable home in kessler JC unified them.
imo the best fighters in this tourney are kess and AA, any fighter who has these fguys on his resume is 70% (or 80% in mikkels case) of the way there to having the same quality resume as JC.
Ottke.....lol... Him & the Germans looooool.... I godda go to the bog & blast one out.... You godda be desperate to fight in Germany.... Not interested in this 'tourney'... Wouldn't surprise me if it's contested in Germany either, & Marcus Beyer DC's everyone lol... If it's legit though, Froch will lick the platter clean....
He would have -
Pascal
Taylor
Dirrell
Kessler
Ward
Then potentially
Abraham
Kessler (again)
Basically, his resume would shit all over Calzaghes, and he would have to be considered the greatest ever British boxer.
i agree no debates there
Kessler would demolish Froch. Froch is open like a book, his power is overrated, no speed. Only thing he really has is a chin.
Kessler hasn't 'demolished' anyone worth talking about.
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