I think its fair, the man will unificate, clean half of the division's elites (Bute, Balzay and Green are out of it so they can get a chance later).
The winner will take the crown in the best division of boxing these days.. should be P4P #1 :boxing:
I think its fair, the man will unificate, clean half of the division's elites (Bute, Balzay and Green are out of it so they can get a chance later).
The winner will take the crown in the best division of boxing these days.. should be P4P #1 :boxing:
no.
it takes alot more to become p4p #1. it took pbf and pac nearly 7-8 years to get to the top... why would it only take these super-middle weights 2-3 years?
I am talking about the winner, to be announced in 2011! so Mosley, Hopkins, Marquez, Pacquiao and even Cotto are likely be out of boxing by 2011 (since Cotto says he will box until 30 so he's 28 now).. and Im not saying that ALL participants of the tourny should be P4P top 10.. I say by the time top fighters of today will disappear when the winner of the tourney comes out.. so The Answer is YES
Well your right in a way, but as fighters go, others come. so we are going to have to see.
The Answer is no. easy as that. They would easily get a top 10 mention. and maybe a top 3, but when you have guys like pacquiao, Marquez, Hopkins, Mosley, Cotto, and others fighting other TOP 10 p4p guys, then they do not deserve to be number 1 in my opinion. None of those guys are really top 10. Abraham has a agruement, but to me he is maybe top 15. Taylor used to be, before he got KTFO by Pavlik. Froch isn't p4p for knocking out a Gassed Taylor. Kessler isn't top 10 by losing to Calzaghe. So nope. Nate Campbell had most of the belts in LW and still wasn't top 10 mentioned.
I am talking about the winner, to be announced in 2011! so Mosley, Hopkins, Marquez, Pacquiao and even Cotto are likely be out of boxing by 2011 (since Cotto says he will box until 30 so he's 28 now).. and Im not saying that ALL participants of the tourny should be P4P top 10.. I say by the time top fighters of today will disappear when the winner of the tourney comes out.. so The Answer is YES
The Answer is no. easy as that. They would easily get a top 10 mention. and maybe a top 3, but when you have guys like pacquiao, Marquez, Hopkins, Mosley, Cotto, and others fighting other TOP 10 p4p guys, then they do not deserve to be number 1 in my opinion. None of those guys are really top 10. Abraham has a agruement, but to me he is maybe top 15. Taylor used to be, before he got KTFO by Pavlik. Froch isn't p4p for knocking out a Gassed Taylor. Kessler isn't top 10 by losing to Calzaghe. So nope. Nate Campbell had most of the belts in LW and still wasn't top 10 mentioned.
And think about it really, can the winner of the tournament really call himself best p4p? What if he wins by a very slim margin? What if he loses once during the tournament? He may be the best super middleweight in the world but the question in 2011 will be is the best supermiddleweight better p4p than the best at an other weight? Just because he's fought a lot of opposition in his respective division doesn't mean he's the best in all divisions, otherwise Mayweather wouldn't have been #1.
but the winner will unificate, call people from 160 to get up and 175 to get down for him, wins a big tourney in boxings best division, no mandatories.. thats not far from P4P king spot
And think about it really, can the winner of the tournament really call himself best p4p? What if he wins by a very slim margin? What if he loses once during the tournament? He may be the best super middleweight in the world but the question in 2011 will be is the best supermiddleweight better p4p than the best at an other weight? Just because he's fought a lot of opposition in his respective division doesn't mean he's the best in all divisions, otherwise Mayweather wouldn't have been #1.
this tourney isn't going to work out. honestly, now. what if Abraham gets some crazy good KO. His marketability will shoot through the roof... and what happens if HBO steps in and wants Abraham vs Pavlik? boxing matches fall apart from the smallest of things... I don't see how this is going to be 100% successful.
it's called a contract.
Best to hold off any p4p proclamations until we see who wins and how they do it.
Theoretically, with the scoring format, we could see 1st and 2nd seeded semifinalists with 3-0 records lose to 3rd and 4th seeded semifinalists who only went 1-2 in the first round of fights, meaning whoever won the tournament could do so with a less-than-impressive 3-2 record, potentially having been KO'd twice. It would make for a great comeback story but not necessarily elevate him to the top of the p4p list.
I dont think in 2 years Juanma could face high quality fighters like the winner of the tourney will.. Paul will not have many decent fighters in his record in 2 years period, and Dawson could face Pascal and I dont know why I think Pascal will beat him!
this tourney isn't going to work out. honestly, now. what if Abraham gets some crazy good KO. His marketability will shoot through the roof... and what happens if HBO steps in and wants Abraham vs Pavlik? boxing matches fall apart from the smallest of things... I don't see how this is going to be 100% successful.
I'm pretty sure there's a contractual obligation to Showtime until the tournament has run its course.
this tourney isn't going to work out. honestly, now. what if Abraham gets some crazy good KO. His marketability will shoot through the roof... and what happens if HBO steps in and wants Abraham vs Pavlik? boxing matches fall apart from the smallest of things... I don't see how this is going to be 100% successful.
you like Pigdestroyer?
this tourney isn't going to work out. honestly, now. what if Abraham gets some crazy good KO. His marketability will shoot through the roof... and what happens if HBO steps in and wants Abraham vs Pavlik? boxing matches fall apart from the smallest of things... I don't see how this is going to be 100% successful.
there's dawson and williams looking in though so we shall see... then in the lower weight classes u have juanma.. hard to tell with all the talent now in boxing..
You are seriously comfortable with the guy who wins that tourney going ahead of say Manny and JMM?
yes I am.. Pacquiao and Marquez will not last 3 more years boxing so I expect the winner (the tourney will end likely in 2011) P4P #1.. Does it make sense??