Lennox Lewis was the last heavyweight champion, now we have a new heavyweight champion in Wladmir Klitschko. Wladimir has demolished almost all the competition out there and only a few worthy heavyweights remain.
Lennox list of notable wins-Vitali Klitschko, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Hasim Rahman, Michael Grant, Shannon Briggs, Andrew Golota, and many other worthy opponents.
Wladimir's list of notable wins incude Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Calvin Brock, Sam Peter, Chris Byrd, and other worthy opponents.
Who does he need to beat in order for his resume to be compared with Lennox's if it isnt already better.
Both of them have fought alot of washed up fighters both of them have dramatic losses against unknowns both of them are the reason why the heavyweght division has eroded they killed heavyweight boxing it least Wlad did
Lennox Lewis was the last heavyweight champion, now we have a new heavyweight champion in Wladmir Klitschko. Wladimir has demolished almost all the competition out there and only a few worthy heavyweights remain.
Lennox list of notable wins-Vitali Klitschko, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Hasim Rahman, Michael Grant, Shannon Briggs, Andrew Golota, and many other worthy opponents.
Wladimir's list of notable wins incude Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Calvin Brock, Sam Peter, Chris Byrd, and other worthy opponents.
Who does he need to beat in order for his resume to be compared with Lennox's if it isnt already better.
Probably one of these...
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Lennox Lewis was the last heavyweight champion, now we have a new heavyweight champion in Wladmir Klitschko. Wladimir has demolished almost all the competition out there and only a few worthy heavyweights remain.
Lennox list of notable wins-Vitali Klitschko, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Hasim Rahman, Michael Grant, Shannon Briggs, Andrew Golota, and many other worthy opponents.
Wladimir's list of notable wins incude Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Calvin Brock, Sam Peter, Chris Byrd, and other worthy opponents.
Who does he need to beat in order for his resume to be compared with Lennox's if it isnt already better.
win David Haye, Alexander Povetkin, Eddie Chambers, Chris Arreola, Denis Boytsov
Lennox Lewis Resume Of Wins
Glenn McCrory
Donovan Ruddock
Tony Tucker
Frank Bruno
Tommy Morrison
Ray Mercer
Oliver McCall
Shannon Briggs
Evander Holyfield
Michael Grant (31-0)
David Tua
Hasim Rahman
Mike Tyson
Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko's Resume Of Wins
Axel Schulz
Chris Byrd X2
Ray Mercer
Samuel Peter (24-0)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Lamon Brewster
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Hasim Rahman
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Now looking at both resumes of wins, I don't think there is much douting Lewis has the better one. And like some have said, Lewis's era was more stronger than Wlads.
And with the names Tyson and Holyfield on Lewis's resume this is also another hard task to compete with as Wlad hasn't got anyone remotely close to nither. Do Tyson was a washed up fighter and Holyfield had seen better days, but the same can be said for Rahman and Mercer in Wlad's resume.
But Wlad still has time. Do even if Wlad to carry on to beat the current crop of Heavyweights, I dout it will still be a good a resume as Lewis's.
Wlad just will keep have to winning and defending his Titles and doing it in convincing fashion and it will be hard to deny him his place as a great Heavyweight.
Why is are you trying to put Vlad over Lennox???
You know yourself he isn't.
Wlads best hope is that Haye somehow beats Vitali, and then Wlad destroyes him.
Lennox list of notable wins-Vitali Klitschko, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Hasim Rahman, Michael Grant, Shannon Briggs, Andrew Golota, and many other worthy opponents.
Wladimir's list of notable wins incude Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragimov, Lamon Brewster, Calvin Brock, Sam Peter, Chris Byrd, and other worthy opponents.
Who does he need to beat in order for his resume to be compared with Lennox's if it isnt already better.
It isn't. He needs a Tyson and/(or?) a Holyfield, both of who were true greats, not just 'worthy opponents'. Nobody on Wlad's list even comes close. Not his fault; there are none currently around, the closest being the one guy he'll never fight in Vitali.
The haters will always say Lewis has a better resume because he beat Tyson and Holyfield.
Tyson was shot and washed up when he fought Lewis
Holyfield was faded and past his prime when he fought Lewis
Wlad would've destroyed the Tyson that fought Lewis....and Wlad would've won a UD over the Holyfield that fought Lewis.
hahahaha,you a stupid ****
HeartAttack
Very good analysis, HeartAttack.
Wlad has recovered from his three losses, and is now stronger than ever before. But thís cannot lead him to greatness, since Wlad does not have the high quality opposition available.
As it's said, this is not Wlad's fault. He faces every challenger (except his brother), and wins by a big margin. Without true challenges you are quickly forgotten by the people.
And what many put against him - a boxer is not only a sportman and fighter, but an entertainer, too. Wlad fights brilliantly, but fails to entertain.
It's basically been covered to a tee. The only way Wladimir's record would equal or surpass Lewis' was to be born in a different era, and even then, no. Wladimir just isn't the same caliber fighter as Lennox. It's not a knock on Wlad, but it's the truth. Lennox was starched once against Rahman and thats because he was a moron. He was able to continue against McCall, I always thought it was a bit of an early stoppage, not saying Oliver wouldn't have jumped on him and finished it soon anyways, but a little early. As for Wlad, not starched by anyone. Whooped by Sanders, but was still conscious at the end, Exhausted against Brewster and Purrity. Wlad though still has the weaker chin, he was easier to buzz than Lennox, while Lennox was quick to be buzzed too. However, Lennox took big shots from Briggs, Mercer, Vitali, Mason, Ruddock and Botha to a lesser degree, even Mavrovic. Wlad because of the lack of quality opponents and lack of an offensive style (ever since Steward got involved) Wlad has proven the sturdiness of his chin. Wlad has a phenomonal jab, the best straight right in the game and knows how to utilize his height. However, Lennox was more dynamic by far offensively, he used uppercuts, hooked well and more often, went to the body and could fight off/on the ropes and on the inside. Things Wlad hasn't shown he could do, plus Wlad has thrown 8 body shots the past 3 years. You add in Lennox's better chin and better opposition and the fact that he avenged his losses. And he has the better resume, results, and is a better fighter all around. If Wlad was in Lennox's era, he would have been a top notch contender and maybe grabbed a paper title or two, but he would've never been a heavyweight champion and he would've been a good name of Lewis' ledger.
As far as Resume goes: Lewis-Gary Mason (tough son of a bitch who Lewis retired with a detached retina), Razor Ruddock (the fight that made Lennox famous), Tony Tucker (still a threat at the time) Frank Bruno (good fighter with a chin that let him down), Oliver McCall (drugs were his downfall---atomic bull, awesome nickname) Tommy Morrison (I thought Lennox was going to kill him, kid wasn't bad, his power and confidence took him farther than expected), Ray Mercer (damn good fight, period), Andrew Golota (not even close, and we all know his issues), Shannon Briggs (Lewis actually won the linear title in this fight, but it didn't hold the weight because of Briggs' gift decision over Foreman and the previous refusal by Foreman to fight Schultz. Also, Shannon buzzed him early, but then Lennox toyed with him until it was stopped on a slip by Briggs), Evander Holyfield (two solid fights, the gift draw for Holyfield was horrendus, but in the rematch Holyfield did better and then lost, politics. Although, there is where Lennox became the recognized champ), Francois Botha (the white buffalo was always a solid fighter, on roids or not), David Tua (Lewis' version of Samuel Peter, in which Lennox handled much better than Wlad with the previously mentioned guy), Hasim Rahman (was a really good all around fighter until he got lucky against Lennox. And then was ruined by Lennox) Vitali Klitschko (The defining moment of Vitali's career. The only title fight he'll ever have and it was a losing effort. A iverweight Lennox barely survived a more than game prime Vitali. Legitimate stoppage win on a horrible cut that could've ended soon for the buzzed Klitschko). I left out Tyson because he was more than shot at the time.
As for Wladimir. His best wins
Cody Koch(good young fighter ini his own right who had a bright future snuffed out literally by some overzealous bouncers)Axel Schulz (still a viable fighter in 99' who had loads more experience against the upcoming Klitschko)Chris Byrd (whom Wladimir would dominate twice in his career, once in Byrd's prime avenging a loss for his brother and let it be noted nothing needed to be avenged, an injury gave Byrd that victory)Charles Shufford (was considered a decent contender who was a good boxer and did a good job playing Sonny Liston)Francois Botha (the last viable outing by the aging buffalo, but he was always dangerous) Jameel McCline (wasn't really the prime McCline like people thought, nor was he ever considered the best American heavyweight, but was on a roll when he faced Wladimir)Lamon Brewster (reluctant to put his name on here because the Brewster that beat Wlad and the one that Wlad beat were two different people. Liakhovich literally ended Lamon's career as a top flight heavyweight) Samuel Peter (Wlad popped that hype bubble and in the meantime garnered some much needed confidence and a great win for him) Calvin Brock (really a never was, but he barely makes it. I have him just a smidgen over Paea Wolfgramm due to the fact that I had Brock taking two early rounds due to his workrate and awkward style for Wlad. He ultimately made it because the slo-mo replay of the KO was awesome. I never knew someone in good shape could have head-fat like that. You see the rolls moving on the replay?) Sultan Ibragimov (good win for anybody. Ugly fight which basically cost Wladimir any hope of fans in America and took HBO out of the picture for any fight with him with Someone not named Haye, Arreola, or Chambers) Tony Thompson (think Obed Sullivan, but in this era he makes it). Ruslan Chagaev (easily the most important fight in Wlad's career. he finally became the champion he should've done years ago. Great performance, possibly most dominant one yet. however, his most exciting win was also his only exciting win of the bunch, the Peter fight).
The quality of opposition and the higher amount all tip towards Lewis as does the entertainment value of the fights. Wlad suffers from two things, his style isn't all the pleasing (He was fun to watch before he got with Emmanuel Steward) and his opposition is relatively weak. If he stays in the game for the next 4 years and dominates some of these talented up and comers, than history will most definitely look kinder on him. However, he still will never be Lennox Lewis, and that's not really such a bad thing. It's hard to do.
The haters will always say Lewis has a better resume because he beat Tyson and Holyfield.
Tyson was shot and washed up when he fought Lewis
Holyfield was faded and past his prime when he fought Lewis
Wlad would've destroyed the Tyson that fought Lewis....and Wlad would've won a UD over the Holyfield that fought Lewis.
To dwindle Lewis' resume to those two names doesn't make sense. How about Razor Ruddock? A prime Golota? A prime Briggs (who somehow managed to win a title all these years later)? Prime Tua? Damn, we can even throw in Vitali Klitschko ;). And I could add on.
That's one part of the equation. The other is the manner in which Lewis fought. Ironically, he was always accused of being boring but that had much more to do with his out-of-ring personality than his in-the-ring performance. Golota KO1. Grant KO2. A war with Briggs. A war with Klitschko. Ruddock in 2. And on and on. Lewis gave us some pretty good action. Pop in the Mercer fight and ask yourself when's the last time you saw two, in-shape and prime heavyweights go at it like that--with skills.
You saying that Klitschko would have destroyed the Tyson that Lewis fought means little. Maybe but if Corrie Sanders was able to do it, who the heck knows? We sure don't. And even if I were to assume Klitschko would beat everyone from Lewis' era it doesn't change the fact that he hasn't. Given the level of opposition in the heavyweight division today, it's doubtful he'll ever get the chance.
And Wlad beat a washed up Rahman, McCline, and Chris Byrd...[/QUOI
It wouldnt have mattered if Hasim Rahman was washed up or not. He is only known because of a lucky one punch KO of Lewis. Other than that, Wlad would have beaten Rahman in his prime or not. Lamon Brewster is so overrated its pathetic, and anyone who knows anything about boxing knows that when Brewster beat Wlad it was a fluke. Brewster never even hurt Wlad, he was so tired he just fell. He was never hurt by any of Brewsters blows. Wlad has done all he can do, they line up and he either KO's them inside of 7 seven rounds, or he wins every single round. Even Sam Peter never truley hurt Wlad, he just went down to regain his composure. Actually, and Ive posted this comment before. Wlad has never really been counted out in any of his losses. Sanders hurt him, but he got back up everytime. The guys chin is not as weak as everyone says it is.
You're a hypocrite
I remember you saying Hopkins "destroyed" Pavlik, the fight went 12 rounds and there were no knockdowns.
Wlad completely dominated Byrd, won every round and knocked him down 3 times....Dominant shutout UD.
I don't recall saying that...Hopkins gave Pavlik a boxing lesson
And regardless Lennox has a better resume than either of the Clitrub Brothers...
And he would beat both of em prime for prime...
dumbass
Wlad destroyed PRIME Byrd in 2000.....Byrd schooled Prime Tua and Holyfield after he got dominated by Wlad.
Wlad destroyed PRIME McCline in 2002...McCline was the best American contender and was coming off impressive wins over Shannon Briggs, Michael Grant, and Lance Whitaker.
Wlad destroys any version of Rahman and you know it.
In your book Wlad destroys any1...and Byrd didn't beat a prime Holyfield
I didn't know winning on the cards was destroying someone...
Vlad should have fought Lewis when he had a chance now there is no big names for him to fight now but if he did fight and beat his brother that would help his resume out alot
The haters will always say Lewis has a better resume because he beat Tyson and Holyfield.
Tyson was shot and washed up when he fought Lewis
Holyfield was faded and past his prime when he fought Lewis
Wlad would've destroyed the Tyson that fought Lewis....and Wlad would've won a UD over the Holyfield that fought Lewis.
And Wlad beat a washed up Rahman, McCline, and Chris Byrd...