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Naazim Richardson:
This sport is tough enough. I’ve seen guys get hurt with 18-ounce gloves in training. And this guy is going to fight with 8-ounce gloves with extra shit on them?
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Naazim Richardson:
My first reaction was I wanted to lean over and crack Margarito’s trainer in the mouth for this dirty shit
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Naazim Richardson:
This sport is tough enough. I’ve seen guys get hurt with 18-ounce gloves in training. And this guy is going to fight with 8-ounce gloves with extra shit on them?
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Naazim Richardson:
My first reaction was I wanted to lean over and crack Margarito’s trainer in the mouth for this dirty shit
Man If only richardson trained COtto
lol, yep, i think is the fans of both margarito and cotto that talk about it. You know cotto has never mentioned anything about margarito "maybe" using plaster. HE said margarito beat him fair.
well...he said in an interview that every fighter knows what on his wraps.
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Naazim Richardson:
This sport is tough enough. I’ve seen guys get hurt with 18-ounce gloves in training. And this guy is going to fight with 8-ounce gloves with extra shit on them?
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Naazim Richardson:
My first reaction was I wanted to lean over and crack Margarito’s trainer in the mouth for this dirty shit
Yeah they probably should have checked but just before a big fight it isn't really something that stays on your mind, its something that you just don't think about.
Wow... I don't think that Cotto talk about this anymore.. All the best fighters have lost somewhere in their career for numerous of reasons. Look at Margarito itself people cry over him and has 6 losses. I am a fan of Cotto of even losing to Margarito and that says he's not scared of anyone. Cotto's a warrior don't care if you're 5'11, bigger than him, everyone scare of a fighter. He will just fight anyone and if you believe a defeat is bad, I can clearly call you gayweather.
March 31, 1973: I never thought of losing, but now that it's happened, the only thing is to do it right. That's my obligation to all the people who believe in me. We all have to take defeats in life.
Author: Muhammad Ali lol, yep, i think is the fans of both margarito and cotto that talk about it. You know cotto has never mentioned anything about margarito "maybe" using plaster. HE said margarito beat him fair.
Wow... I don't think that Cotto talk about this anymore.. All the best fighters have lost somewhere in their career for numerous of reasons. Look at Margarito itself people cry over him and has 6 losses. I am a fan of Cotto even losing to Margarito and that says he's not scared of anyone. Cotto's a warrior don't care if you're 5'11, bigger than him, everyone scare of a fighter. He will just fight anyone and if you believe a defeat is bad, I can clearly call you gayweather.
March 31, 1973: I never thought of losing, but now that it's happened, the only thing is to do it right. That's my obligation to all the people who believe in me. We all have to take defeats in life.
Author: Muhammad Ali
Nobody found any plaster and Clottey was hitting Cotto with ease.
Cotto has defensive issues like a mofo. He does. He has his good points and bad points.
fighters protect their hands even more during training
thanks
exactly...that's why they use those gloves.
but margarito's gonna use block-gauze to train??
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CALIFORNIA STATE ATHLETIC COMMISSION
Tuesday, February 10, 2009
8:00 A.M. – 7:00 P.M.
Van Nuys State Building
6150 Van Nuys Boulevard
Van Nuys, CA 91401
Minutes
Commissioners Present:
Timothy Noonan, Chairman Mario Rodriguez, Vice-Chairman
Peter Lopez Howard Rose
June Collison John Frierson
Dr. Christopher Giza
Staff Present:
Bill Douglas, Acting Assistant Executive Officer Anita Scuri, Legal Counsel, DCA
Dean Lohuis, Chief Athletic Inspector James Maynard
Karen Chappelle, Deputy Attorney General Spencer Walker
Yolanda Alvarez
The minutes reflect the order in which the agenda items were heard.
Agenda Item 1. The meeting was called to order at 8:00 A.M. Chairman Timothy Noonan called the roll. Commissioners present and accounted for: Collison, Frierson, Lopez, Rodriguez, Rose and Giza.
Agenda Item 2. Pledge of Allegiance was performed.
Agenda Item 3. Approval of Meeting Minutes
November, 2008 Minutes
Agenda Item 6. Disciplinary Hearing
Antonio Margartio: Che Guevara was called to the witness stand, and questioned from Deputy Attorney General Karen Chappelle. He was questioned about his involvement with Antonio Margarito’s hand wraps on the night of Saturday, January 24, 2009. Upon conclusion of Mrs. Chappell’s questioning, Che was crossed examined by Defense Attorneys Daniel Petrocelle and Jeff Benz. Through out the questioning process Chairman Tim Noonan and the six other Commissioners asked clarifying questions. Che’s testimony explained his position and involvement with Antonio Margarito on the night of Saturday, January 24, 2009. His testimony supported that Antonio Margarito was attempting to use an illegal hand wrap.
Mike Bray was called to the witness stand; he was question by District Attorney General, Karen Chappell, Defense Attorneys Daniel Petrocelle, and Jeff Benz. Mike’s testimony explained his position and involvement with Antonio Margarito on the night of Saturday, January 24, 2009. His testimony supported that Antonio Margarito was attempting to use an illegal hand wrap.
Dean Lohuis was called the witness stand; he was questioned by District Attorney General, Karen Chappell, Defense Attorneys Daniel Petrocelle, and Jeff Benz. Dean’s testimony explained his position and involvement with Antonio Margarito on the night of Saturday, January 24, 2009. His testimony supported that Antonio Margarito was attempting to use an illegal hand wrap.
Dave Pereda was called to the witness stand; he was questioned by District Attorney General, Karen Chappell, Defense Attorneys Daniel Petrocelle and Jeff Benz. Dave’s testimony explained his position and involvement with Antonio Margarito on the night of Saturday, January 24, 2009. His testimony supported that Antonio Margarito was attempting to use an illegal hand wrap.
Antonio Margarito was called to the witness stand, he had a translator. Mr. Margarito was questioned by District Attorney General Karen Chappell, Defense Attorneys Daniel Petrocelle, and Jeff Benz. Mr. Margarito maintained that on the night of Saturday, January 24, 2009 he did not know that there was anything illegal in his hand wrap.
Javier Capetillo was called to the witness stand, he also used a translator. Mr. Capetillo was questioned by District Attorney General Karen Chappell, Defense Attorneys Daniel Petrocelle and Jeff Benz. Mr. Capetillo is Mr. Margarito’s trainer. Mr. Capetillo supported Mr. Margarito’s claim that Mr. Margarito had no idea that anything was “different” with the hand wraps.
Francisco Espinoza was called to the witness stand, he was questioned by District Attorney General Karen Chappell, and Defense Attorney Daniel Petrocelle. Mr. Espinoza is Mr. Margarito’s manager. Mr. Espinoza said that he had never seen the hand wraps in question.
Closing Arguments for Mr. Capetillo
Dr. Giza motions for revocation of Mr. Capetillo’s license, second by Vice Chairman Mr. Rodriquez. Discussion. Chairman Mr. Noonan restates motion for revocation of Mr. Capetillos license. Motion passed.
Closing Arguments for Mr. Margarito
Dr. Giza motion was made for revocation, seconded, and carried unanimously.
because he had old training pads on, which isnt allowed
which calls for a suspension
seriously man, no bullshit
dont you see the HUGE difference between "suspended" and "banned" ?
I never said he got banned. Also, not going to knock his win over cotto. Don't know if he used "plasterlike" substance during that fight or other fights.
Ok
Cotto has brilliant defense...he is almost impossible to hit.
Feel better?
He doesn't have brilliant defense, no boxer does. I'm one cotto fan who can knock on cotto's weakness but acknowledge his good points. I do that with every fighter. I see good in floyd, pacman, mosley, etc.
espn.com:
The California State Athletic Commission revoked the licenses of former welterweight champion Antonio Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo on Tuesday, banning them for at least one year for tampering with Margarito's hand wraps before he was to face Shane Mosley on Jan. 24 at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.
Voting 7-0 on both motions for revocation, the panel found that they put a plaster-like substance on illegal pads inside Margarito's hand wraps.
Prior to the fight, in which Margarito was knocked out in the ninth round, Mosley's trainer, Naazim Richardson, had objected to the way Margarito's left hand was wrapped. When the wrap was cut off, officials found a suspect bandage wrap inside the knuckle pad that would be placed over Margarito's hands.
Richardson then insisted that the wrap on Margarito's right hand be checked and another identical illegal pad was discovered. Margarito eventually had his hands rewrapped and went on to lose the fight.
The panel rejected Margarito's plea of ignorance -- he told the panel that he just held up his hands to be wrapped -- and Capetillo's insistence that he had simply made a mistake during a hearing that lasted more than five hours in Van Nuys.Che Guevara, the inspector responsible for supervising Margarito's hand wrapping, testified that he had never seen that sort of pad used before, apparently missing it being slipped into the initial wrap before Richardson's objections.
Another inspector, Mike Bray, said during questioning that he had seen the pads and that they were "moist and dirty looking with a white substance smeared across the pad, like a cast plaster."
The commission has yet to identify the substance on the pads and said it won't know what it is until testing is completed next month.
Capetillo said he accidentally put the wrong inserts into his fighter's hand wraps, reaching for the wrong pads in his equipment bag.
"I committed a big mistake," Capetillo told the panel and the standing room-only crowd. "I don't want this young man to have problems. I'm here to cover any responsibility. I take full responsibility. I committed this innocent mistake."
The revocations mean that neither Margarito nor Capetillo can participate in boxing in the United States for at least one year. After a year, both can reapply for their licenses in California, where they would have to go through another hearing. There is no guarantee either would be relicensed.
"The conduct of both Mr. Margarito and Mr. Capetillo was unacceptable and threatened the health and safety of another licensee," Carrie Lopez, the director of the state's Department of Consumer Affairs, which licenses fighters, told The Associated Press. "Today's action shows that both the Department of Consumer Affairs and the California State Athletic Commission take the issue of boxer safety very seriously, and will move quickly when a licensee's actions threaten the safety of others."
The punishment extends throughout the nation because commissions generally honor suspensions and revocations in other jurisdictions
i think the right term is "cast-like block made of gauze". sure...he's gonna train with that...wonder why fighters use 18oz gloves in their training?
thanks...
fighters protect their hands even more during training
thanks
because he had old training pads on, which isnt allowed
which calls for a suspension
seriously man, no bullshit
dont you see the HUGE difference between "suspended" and "banned" ?
i think the right term is "cast-like block made of gauze". sure...he's gonna train with that...wonder why fighters use 18oz gloves in their training?
thanks...
They should have checked Cotto's defense..
Oh that's right.
He doesn't have a defense.
agreed...that's why he only have 1 defeat....against plaster
that's not margarito's fault
agreed
Imagine if Naazim had NOT noticed the wraps, how much longer the fraud would've kept going . Every boxer/trainer should be thanking naazim. Did Naazim do anything wrong??
nope and margarito was double owned that night.
lol..so why was he INDEED suspended??
because he had old training pads on, which isnt allowed
which calls for a suspension
seriously man, no bullshit
dont you see the HUGE difference between "suspended" and "banned" ?
this is where you need to be straightened out
if the wraps were "wrapped in plaster" he would be banned for life. it's very simple to understand
in no way shape or form would any amount of money or any lawyer get you out of that mess if the CSAC indeed found plaster. the only thing they found were traces of elements found in numerous things
lol..so why was he INDEED suspended??