the most overrated and underrated fighters?

daisuke naito is pretty underrated... chris john & daud yordan too... donnie nietes deserves mention... edwin valero & joan guzman are a little overrated IMO...

You say Mayweather is underrated at the start and then, in the very next sentence, you mention him as being one of the most overrated? Which is it? It's both, Floyd is the Marmite of boxing.

I think at the moment Cotto and Donaire and underrated, I also think Mayweather is underrated. I also think that Pacquiao and Mayweather are the most overrated fighters at the moment. You say Mayweather is underrated at the start and then, in the very next sentence, you mention him as being one of the most overrated? Which is it? Anyway, there are lots of underrated fighters and lots of overrated ones. If a great fighter loses today, he becomes underrated because everyone says he is now 'exposed' and if a good fighter has one big win he is suddenly an ATG!

If Wlad was American he'd get it even worse for being boring and not being interesting to listen to. We demand top of the line Heavy Weight Champions, that certain kinda Champion shit a celebrity that entertains in and out of the ring. larger than life storied people. Thats why america cares less about the HW divison theres no one there even close to meeting our standards and that goes for American HW's as well as from other countries. make no mistake though he would be even more hated than Ruiz if he were American. We want excitment , skill , arrogance and a dowright ruthless champion to be a star here. Hell no he won't. Also he's no where near as boring as Ruiz. Yea he does the usual jab his way to victory but its no where near the hugging Ruiz does.

you're ****in smokin some of that crip or choclate tye weed homey. wlad is a bum in a bum div, hopkins is a legend. Wlad is beating the shit out of people. Like I said, if he was American, people would be on his nuts on how great he is. Especially the American media. The Eastern part of the world is beating the shit out of what the Western side brings at the heavyweight level right now. Like it or not. Hopkins isn't a legend in my book, yes he's an ATG but putting him in a category with Ali or Robinson is stupid if you ask me. You said I'm smoking some shit but I at least make sense in my opinion. You on the other hand give props to 2 bums in the little Chavez'. Both Omar & Julio....they suck.

If Wlad was American he'd get it even worse for being boring and not being interesting to listen to. We demand top of the line Heavy Weight Champions, that certain kinda Champion shit a celebrity that entertains in and out of the ring. larger than life storied people. Thats why america cares less about the HW divison theres no one there even close to meeting our standards and that goes for American HW's as well as from other countries. make no mistake though he would be even more hated than Ruiz if he were American. We want excitment , skill , arrogance and a dowright ruthless champion to be a star here. you goddamn right muthafukka, pop that shit like it is. one!!!!!!!

Overrated: Hopkins Underrated: Wlad you're ****in smokin some of that crip or choclate tye weed homey. wlad is a bum in a bum div, hopkins is a legend.

P-Will an Kessler Overrated Adamek an Bradley Underrated

Overrated:Nate Campbell Underrated:Fernando Montiel

Again, I give props for most of what he did at MW. BUT he hasn't done jack shit currently. Let me spell it for you ..........C U R R E N T L Y. If that was the case with his history then DLH would of been ranked top 5 P4P before the Pac fight cause he has done much before than. See how dumb that sounds?? This most feared shit is such horse shit. For Margs, for Williams, for Winky to whoever else. I never believed much of it anyways. But I do give him props for being a Champion for years. Ok he's overrated.......name me 5 WWs that HAVE DONE MORE @ WW than Margarito in this generation?? Wlad may be rated high to you....but he isn't getting the credit he deserves from many fans from the Western side of the world. right now Margarito does not deserve anything for cheating and he still gets publicity. few month back before the Mosely fight there was alway a thread on Margarito every single day you willl get 100 thread on Margarito. and still even after the wrap cheating he still get publicty. I dont know what fight you watched but saying that it was a CLEAR win for chirs john is the equivalent of saying it was a clear ko win for JMM. yes it was clear win for JMM in my opion. Even thogh Marquez is better fighter than Chris John but that night he wasnt. He was despressed trying to KO him to prove something but Chris John outsmart him. At the brawls JMM has the advantage but they didnt brawl much. I remeber the fight clearly. Most people think JMM won because he is a boxing brand name from Mexico and people felt he should have won against Pac. Most of JMM punchs came out long. He was trying to hard to KO Chris John rather than to win the fight and use the jab to cut the ring. I am a fan of JMM but that night he didnt show his best and Chris John was better.

Thanks for the green k mate. :pat: ur welcome :headbang::bling:

You drunken fool Care to explain?

Slipped you some red mate. lol, thanx :headbang:

overrated - hopkins,mayweather,williams underrated - pacquiao,cotto,wladimir what?????? how?????

Have you seen Marquze vs Chris John? it was a clear win for Chris John. Marquez is much better but he was more focus on getting a KO. He was going with straight right and a left hook but Chris John was smart enough not to tag alone. part of fighting is to know you limits, pros and cons and us against you oppenets. people alway critize boxers who dont have alot of power moving around. I dont know what fight you watched but saying that it was a CLEAR win for chirs john is the equivalent of saying it was a clear ko win for JMM.

overrated - hopkins,mayweather,williams underrated - pacquiao,cotto,wladimir

I've only recieved one red for saying that Calzaghe was overrated. figures, some people give red k for other peoples opions. its crazy, and calslappy is very overrated. id give ya some green, but i cant, i gotta wait till i can cuz the stupid karma thing

I've only recieved one red for saying that Calzaghe was overrated. hahaha :boxing:

agree yo FeFist, bro, how are you red?? your one of the best on here. I've only recieved one red for saying that Calzaghe was overrated. It doesn't matter much anyway, it's not like someone has cast my posts aside because of my rep lol.

Some people shit on his resume and assume he isn't a great/good boxer. Some people think he is unbeatable, he's not he is just unbeaten. agree:boxing: yo FeFist, bro, how are you red?? your one of the best on here.