Is this why Lampley is a bit off when asked about Big George?

does anyone remember the Byrd/oquendo robbery in Michigan? After the fight George said if chris was a true champion he would have admitted defeat in the post fight interview which never happened...Byrd wouldn't even give him a rematch...or should I say don king wouldn't give him a rematch.

I have always said foreman was the best,most honest commentator ever.he was the ONLY commentator who said without a doubt wladimir could rebound from the sanders,brewster loses! The ONLY one.Roy jones compared wlad to butterbean!foreman would always talk about times he was hurt,tired,etc in past fights while jones & lewis just brag about themselves.both are good commentators but George was HONEST! That goes along way with me.

i often disagree with what george says. i still respect him though for being honest and giving HIS opinion. can stand merchant, lederman and especially LAMPLEY when they take the hbo fighters side. also they are scared to disagree with the other broadcasters. george might be a bit punch drunk but atleast hes real. as for the whole KD thing in the moorer-holyfield fight. i think it was a 10-9 round since moorer dominated the round until he got dropped. i think 10-9 is the most fair score, and i would rather score it even than 10-8 holyfield. i know its not the point but still.

It was the Hopkins vs Trinidad fight. Tito was really getting beaten up badly, then I think it was the 8th round Hopkins is pounding on Tito then Foreman claims that Hopkins is tiring, then when Lamply asks him the signs he says "He went to his corner and laid his feet flat out, his old legs wont handle it". Lol, then he continued to do nothing but talk about how great tito is while he is gettign a beatign untill the 11th round, when it become obvious that Tito doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of scoring a KO. Other than that I loved hearing Foreman regulate lamply. in all fairness, tito was the fresher guy going into the 12th tho. He was taking the ass beating of a lifetime though. Foreman wasn't that biased tohugh. he was stating the truth, Hopkins had to watch out cuz tito still has a puncher's chance but, we all knew at that point he didn't have a shot in hell.

Yeah hbo is too biased at times. Especially Lampley. I rewatched Cotto vs. Clottey and listening to Lampley was somewhat disgusting. I have no problem with Cotto getting props he's a great fighter. But he was extremely biased and hardly gave Clottey any credit. While Steward was giving Clottey his credit. Maybe just to balance Lampley's biased out? Who knows. Please. Try watching a Oscar fight (or any other house fighter)--absolutely disgusting. But one of the most ridiculous displays was during the first Hopkins-Taylor fight. It's the last round and Hops has the young boy reeling all over the place from countless rights; legs looking bad, with his back to the ropes. What does Jim see? "Taylor is setting a trap for Hopkins in the corner!" Jesus Christ.

"hopkins gotta be careful now!" lol, george loooooves the big punchers. Hopkins was putting on a performance for the ages and all george can talk about is tito's power. :sad: It was funny though listening to how Tito would destroy Hopkins, to talking about how he would wear hopkins down, to talking about how he had a punchers chance, to talking about how he had heart, to talking about how his father should talk him into retiring on his stool.

George's so called "incompetancy" is overstated around these parts. While it's true he was prone to silly remarks and knew little of the lesser stars, he was oft-times far more insightful than the other two and was very perceptive when it came to the heavyweights. Plus, those silly remarks provided good humor. Give me George over the horribly biased and usually blind Lamps. I agree, there actually were times when he made some very accurate observations, like when Bowe was fighting Golota and he pointed out that Bowe had underestimated the reach and distance Golota was able to hit him from and that is why he cannot get out of the way of any of those jabs hands, and if you watch the fight that does seem to be the case.

It was either the Trinidad-Hopkins fight, or the Toney-Barkley fight, but one of them was getting an asswhooping, and George was like, oh hes a puncher, hes got him right where he wants him now... I was like... George... It was the Hopkins vs Trinidad fight. Tito was really getting beaten up badly, then I think it was the 8th round Hopkins is pounding on Tito then Foreman claims that Hopkins is tiring, then when Lamply asks him the signs he says "He went to his corner and laid his feet flat out, his old legs wont handle it". Lol, then he continued to do nothing but talk about how great tito is while he is gettign a beatign untill the 11th round, when it become obvious that Tito doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of scoring a KO. Other than that I loved hearing Foreman regulate lamply.

Yeah hbo is too biased at times. Especially Lampley. I rewatched Cotto vs. Clottey and listening to Lampley was somewhat disgusting. I have no problem with Cotto getting props he's a great fighter. But he was extremely biased and hardly gave Clottey any credit. While Steward was giving Clottey his credit. Maybe just to balance Lampley's biased out? Who knows.

lampley is a trip, "go down, go down, go down, go down, save yourself!" ill never ever forget that.

lampley is a trip, "go down, go down, go down, go down, save yourself!" ill never ever forget that. wasnt that andrew golota against some bum?

Big George pays tribute to boxing's "hardest hitters," the voices behind the punch: Larry Merchant & Jim Lampley By George Foreman LARRY MERCHANT I hardly ever agree with Larry on air. Sometimes, I think we are at two different fights. Believe me, when I watch the playbacks I don't always agree with me either. But the thing I am sure about is, there's a thin line between boxing and wrestling and no one holds that line better than Larry Merchant; it doesn't matter about glitter, pomp, or buy rate. Nothing affects his opinion; if he believes it's a mismatch he will say it, sometimes (in my opinion) more than he ought to. I've seen fighters cuss, swear, and threaten him, but he is always poised, and remains heard. People say all kinds of things about this man, and I've cast a few adjectives as well (smile). But those who say this man has respect of person I say, not true. Like me, he has a few missing pieces, but when it comes to integrity Larry has a full house. So to fans around the world, sit back and enjoy HBO with Larry Merchant and you'll get the best. JIM LAMPLEY What do I say to Jim, but "that's right man"? Over the years so many of us have forgotten that radio is the backbone of broadcasting. We had movies for years without sound, and some liked them. But when sound was added we all loved it. Until sound was added to pictures, radio was king. Some of the historical events, though they appear on television, would have little value without the voices that guide us and explain the true magnitude of it. In the world of sports pictures are great, but what made our sport of boxing has always been the blow by blow man. The good ones make us hold on to our seats as they did years ago with Joe Louis. I watched the George Foreman and Joe Frazier fight; but without Cossell saying, "Down goes Frazier," nothing really happened. A bigger guy knocked the smaller guy down; it's the voice that savored the moment. Says Jim Lampley over 20 years later, "It happened", once again the bigger guy beats smaller. Yes, without the voices we see nothing at all. As long as we have Jim Lampley around waiting, without a script, history will be recorded; and the moments captured so that the future can truly see it was more than the eye could see.

George's so called "incompetancy" is overstated around these parts. While it's true he was prone to silly remarks and knew little of the lesser stars, he was oft-times far more insightful than the other two and was very perceptive when it came to the heavyweights. Plus, those silly remarks provided good humor. Give me George over the horribly biased and usually blind Lamps.

Can't say that I have, however I have seen edited and unedited versions of Barrera-Hamed. In the original, Foreman and Lampley argue over Hamed's religious comments, and whether or not the result is a sign that Allah wanted Hamed to lose. In the edited version, the discussion is removed and there is no commentary for 20 seconds or so. So yeah...I've no doubt that HBO would cut something out for the rebroadcast if they felt it was potentially controversial. yeah i remember that, he called him out on that brilliantly, Lamply was out of order there "Allah wants u to lose" or some shit like that. He may not be one of the best announcers but i like him for things like that. He calls it how he sees it (even if he's wrong). TV needs more people like Gerorge. If he actually knew what he was talking about it would be better! He loves punchers I remember Morales v mccullough he was saying mccullough needs to hurt him more, saying, sometimes u have to break the rules (of how to punch in boxing) and really swing to get some leverage.

You gotta love Foreman.

His bias usually got in the way of everything he said when it came to the stars. His hatred toward Mayweather Sr. in the De La Hoya-Vargas fight was too evident and he'd go into arguments with Merchant and Lampley far too often. Still, for some reason I liked him better than all the other athlete announcers. Maybe it's the grill.

There will never be another Foreman, boxer or commentator. He was the best commentator ever, and it was because he gave his opinion straight up...he wasn't a yes man, as you put it. Plus, with Foreman, you get extra ring security...with the Bowe -Golata riot, Foreman collaring 20 year olds "Don't do that son!" I sure don't agree with you about George as a commentator, but that scene at the Golota fight was unforgettable.

I ****in love george foreman.

Yeah, it was the Tito/B-Hop fight. Absolutely terrible. He had lost every single round, was looking like a completely beaten fighter and was on wobbly legs, whereas Hopkins was gunning it, throwing combos all over the shop and still George was going on and on "Ohhhh, you jus caan' give up on this guy na. Ee's got 'im right where ee wants 'im" Funniest commentated fight ever. Would have been like saying at the end of Lacy/Calzaghe "This Calzaghe has got to be careful. He just don' know the power of this guy and he's settin' up for big shot. Ohhhh I can see it" Lacy was a power puncher he would have said exactly that.

Is this why Lampley is a bit off when asked about Big George? Taken from Yahoo answers. This tension can be traced back exactly to April 22 1994. On that night Evander Holyfield was defending his title against Michael Moorer. In the second round Holyfield leveled Michael Moorer with a brutal left hook. None of the 3 judges gave Evander a ten eight round despite the clean knockdown. Worst of all one of the judges Jerry Roth actually scored the round even! In the end Roth's horrible descision ultimately cost Evander his heavyweight championship! The argument was that Moorer was handily winning the round at the time of the knockdown. The argument was insane and everyone covering the fight was livid. Every single HBO commentator had something to say about how questionable this was. These people included Jim Lampley Larry Merchant Harold Ledderman James Brown and a furious George Foreman. In the post fight commentary Foreman stopped just short of saying that the Duva's fixed the fight. George said the following I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH! THE DUVA'S HAVE TOO MANY PIECES OF PAPER IN TOO MANY POCKETS! He went on to say that SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND GET THIS JUNK OUT OF HERE! He then said half jokingly that he'd have to eat a lot of hamburgers to get over this one! HBO began promoting the rebroadcast as DID THE JUDGES GET IT WRONG? The Duva's went into attack mode and threatened to sue. They also moved to have Foreman fired for his allegations. Meanwhile Holyfield was being diagnosed with a heart condition. There would be no immediate rematch. Those two things combined caused HBO to completely do a 180. They feared a lawsuit and profusely apologized to Moorer and the Duva's. The postfight comments were edited in the rebroadcast. Lampley backed down completely and said he called the fight wrong. Merchant did a turnabout as well. NOT GEORGE THOUGH! He remained furious that the heavyweight championship had been reduced to a crooked game. He was also extremely hurt that his fellow commentators and friends left him hung out to dry! George himself dealt out the ultimate justice taking the titles back himself by knocking Moorer out 7 months later. The damage to the HBO team though was done. For the next nine years they remained a team but never without tension. Whenever George felt Jim or Larry were being YES MEN and calling a fight more favorably for an HBO contracted fighter he would boldly challenge them! Courageous commentators like George Foreman are one in a million! George Foreman's bio BY GEORGE. There will never be another Foreman, boxer or commentator. He was the best commentator ever, and it was because he gave his opinion straight up...he wasn't a yes man, as you put it. Plus, with Foreman, you get extra ring security...with the Bowe -Golata riot, Foreman collaring 20 year olds "Don't do that son!"