lol I am young, I don't deserve to get beat up like this "Ortiz"

once a quitter always a quitter once you quit once that will always be on your mind it very diffcult to get out of that state of mind just look at cotto.what the hell did ortiz expect a walk in the park. it was all roses when he was giving the beat downs but when he got one he quit.:lame: to be fair, if you were being pounded on by maidana you'd quit too

He doesn't deserve to get beat up like that? Huh?!? Dude better find a new profession or start running like Fraud Gayweather. Poet Floyds beaten much better fighters than Maidana bro.

He is a young kid who faced real adversity for the first time. Everyone needs to give him one pass. In the future he will get another heart check, if he fails that one then you can judge him. What so many people seem to forget on here is that fighters, just like fans, are human. Everyone dogged Cotto also which frankly pissed me off, but didn't he come back and show pure grit the next time it was asked of him? This was a kid who was spoiled by GBP as the next big thing. Everyone there was promoting him as the future Oscar. That is a ton of weight on his young shoulders. It can get to someone. From this moment forward, he will not have those expectations. He now has something to prove to not only his promoter and the fans, but also himself. Time will tell. I like Victor Ortiz alot - he's a great kid and true, respectful professional - if he maintains the love for the sport - he'll learn from this experience and will benefit from it...

He is a young kid who faced real adversity for the first time. Everyone needs to give him one pass. In the future he will get another heart check, if he fails that one then you can judge him. What so many people seem to forget on here is that fighters, just like fans, are human. Everyone dogged Cotto also which frankly pissed me off, but didn't he come back and show pure grit the next time it was asked of him? This was a kid who was spoiled by GBP as the next big thing. Everyone there was promoting him as the future Oscar. That is a ton of weight on his young shoulders. It can get to someone. From this moment forward, he will not have those expectations. He now has something to prove to not only his promoter and the fans, but also himself. Time will tell.

ummmmmmmmmm he quit against Tony :thinkerg: he needs to rematch the guy... and don't start crying that he cheated blah blah blah. he needs to avenge that lost, simple as that. although a rematch would be great...Tony needs the rematch more than Cotto -Tony is always going to be marked with the "cheater" label (because of the Mosely fight, not the Cotto fight) - however, most make the same conclusions for the Cotto fight (whether it's fair or not, evidence, no evidence)...Bottomline: if there is no rematch - who's career is more tainted, Cotto or Margarito? Sure as hell ain't Cotto...pretty neat, huh?

I **** with both man, I have favs from both nations but that list is pretty damning lol, cant dispute facts Me too, bro...but like you said...it is what it is... Concerning fighters in this latest era...the ones of mexican descent...to paraphrase Rambo.... "Quittin's just like breathin'."

He doesn't deserve to get beat up like that? Huh?!? Dude better find a new profession or start running like Fraud Gayweather. Poet have u boxed poet?

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I was like WTF when he said that .....but i'll put it down to his disapointment and his age, he will look back at that statement and know that he shouldn't have said that. This is boxing as hatton would say 'It ain't a tickling contest' lol

Coming from an objective observer who's neither mexican nor puerto rican.... Yep. It's official.....Puerto Rico > Mexico. Boxers of mexican descent just ain't what they used to be...they quit all the time now. What happened to their pride?....it's ****ing bizarre... I **** with both man, I have favs from both nations but that list is pretty damning lol, cant dispute facts

miss it..we had a game last night in Kansas..what did I miss? Slugfest. Ortiz quit in rd 6. Now a bunch of racial bait threads goin down. Surprisingly, they ain't gettin merged yet.

lol I am young, I don't deserve to get beat up like this "Ortiz" He should have went a little longer and just tried a little more. Cotto was cut just as bad as Victor Ortiz. Guerrero quit due to a cut. Yuri Foreman had to stop due to a cut. Torres hits like Maidana and Cotto overcame him even in the eyes of defeat

Yes sir. Just recently Ortiz Guerrero DLH Rubio Mijares Arce Vazquez Campas Morales Shit is becoming a tradition now!!!!!!!!!! My point is you cant be pounding your chest as the big machos with Huevos the size of texas and then start a streak of quitting like this!!!!! Its not that they quitted, its the fact of all this macho macho, warrior mentallity bullshit, wish is looking pretty ridiculous right now!!!!! By the way, what having more stars have to do with them qutting? Coming from an objective observer who's neither mexican nor puerto rican.... Yep. It's official.....Puerto Rico > Mexico. Boxers of mexican descent just ain't what they used to be...they quit all the time now. What happened to their pride?....it's ****ing bizarre...

My dad woke up from his nap and called Victor Ortiz a pussy when he saw Ortiz quit. I think thats a bit ****ed up to call a pro boxer a pussy, but thats why Cotto is the man! ummmmmmmmmm he quit against Tony :thinkerg: he needs to rematch the guy... and don't start crying that he cheated blah blah blah. he needs to avenge that lost, simple as that.

I think he was just a little upset of getting beat bad. I don't believe that he meant that. He'll be back. Everyone loses. He gave a great fight.

miss it..we had a game last night in Kansas..what did I miss?

Yes sir. Just recently Ortiz Guerrero DLH Rubio Mijares Arce Vazquez Campas Morales Shit is becoming a tradition now!!!!!!!!!! My point is you cant be pounding your chest as the big machos with Huevos the size of texas and tehn start a streak of quitting like this!!!!! Its not that they quitted, its the fact of all his macho macho, warrior mentallity bullshit, wish is looking pretty ridiculous right now!!!!! By the way, what having more stars have to do with them qutting. The Mexicans are becoming cheaters and quiters.

I also hate how he tried to laugh it off and pretend he didn't just quit like a bitch.

You can be jailed for circumstantial evidence. No need for hard evidence. I understand you and others that want hard evidence don't want to consider all the circumstantial evidence and thats fine. Its good enough for me that he was caught before doing it to another person. I guess the people that always say "can't prove it" have no malice. :dunno: VAYA!! True True...

I'm ignorant and you just said Mexicans quit the most. Are you ****ing serious? I like you, but you take shit too far. Have certain Mexican fighters quit recently? Sure. Oscar De La Hoya Victor Ortiz Possibly Jorge Arce Historically, however, they have no higher ratio then any other group of fighters. Probably less then the average, as a matter of opinion. What I said was that Puerto Rico has no more BIG stars then Mexico. Cotto/Antonio Margarito (like it or not, he's still popular. Whether I care for him as a fighter/person doesn't matter.) Lopez/Juan Manuel Marquez Ivan Calderon/Marquez-Vazquez. You can't tell me that Puerto Rico has more stars. I'm not even saying they don't have the same amount. Simple facts. Calderon - if Puerto Rico has 2 or 3 Superstars at any given time - I'LL TAKE IT...pretty damn good for a 35X100 sq mile island compared to a country 10 times its size... My point to all this has nothing to do with how many Mexican Boxing stars there are compared to PR stars or even which group has "quit" more, etc. Bottomline - MANY, if not all, who considered Ortiz the next great "warrior" have to be hurting - more so, this loss obliterates any "warrior" persona his fans took for granted just cause he's a proud Mexican-American. I like the kid personally...we'll see how he recovers from this...