Look up him vs sammy angott george cliff tony freddie valentine andy nonnels and tony ancona Dykes,same obsolete tech and flaws as the older one that fought gene/jake/joey and others
Ray and this era look to be very overextending a lot of times to the body and are very hesitant in most movements. They don't fight from range much,they leave themselves open a lot of times, and a lot of times they will just throw to the body and not protect themselves. The Carlos era were able to protect the body with 1 hand while punching to the body. along with all the other advances in movement, along with being way smoother in movements the ray era They use mostly counters when up close. The lateral movement is very basic. They don't seem to be able to punch from range while doing it smoothly. They have to stop then punch most of the time. Their feet are mostly tiptoeing.
Ray was over rated: Hatton taxes that ass!
Look: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=sugar+ray+robinson&word2=Ricky+Hatton
Who would have thunk it :D
Floyd Mayweather, Jr. (Boxing)
This one caught me entirely by surprise. How did the Pretty Boy jump from No. 21 last year to No. 4 now? By earning $20 million in the ring and another $20,250,000 in endorsements bringing his total earnings just past the $40 million mark.
does him making money make him a better boxer?
i've never seen anyone fall for bait harder than deja vous has with RIZ's bogus thread :D
I'm enjoyin your blow by blow commentary in thread debates lately Mak. You gotta get to HBO homey. Mak>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LL, Max, Lampley
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Still here's some facts for ya:
A quick glance at Battling Nelsons record shows me that he in the 4. quarter of 1911 fought:
Oct.3 1911, 12 rounds
8 days later, 10 rounds
6 days later, 12 rounds
2 days later, 6 rounds
6 days later, 15 rounds
12 days later, 10 rounds
4 days later, 9 rounds
15 days later, 10 rounds
5 days later, 6 rounds
4 days later, 10 rounds
11 days later, 10 rounds
3 days later, 10 rounds
4 days later, 10 rounds
and on new years eve (just to round of the year...) 20 rounds.
That's 150 professional rounds in one quarter year!
On topic: Kessler brutally kayo's Robinson. Who has Robinson beat anyway? And he quit against the limited Joey Maxim.
bats shut the **** up!
Vlad's opposition would get laffed out of the ring by yesterday's comp.
Modern fighters are the one that are overrated..not the guys that fought 15 plus rounds and fought 3 times a month.
Who fought 3, 15 round fights in a month?
I didn't say they fought 3,15 rounders in a month.
I said they fought 15 round fights AND 3 times a month.....
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Still here's some facts for ya:
A quick glance at Battling Nelsons record shows me that he in the 4. quarter of 1911 fought:
Oct.3 1911, 12 rounds
8 days later, 10 rounds
6 days later, 12 rounds
2 days later, 6 rounds
6 days later, 15 rounds
12 days later, 10 rounds
4 days later, 9 rounds
15 days later, 10 rounds
5 days later, 6 rounds
4 days later, 10 rounds
11 days later, 10 rounds
3 days later, 10 rounds
4 days later, 10 rounds
and on new years eve (just to round of the year...) 20 rounds.
That's 150 professional rounds in one quarter year!
On topic: Kessler brutally kayo's Robinson. Who has Robinson beat anyway? And he quit against the limited Joey Maxim.
right hook duck under....same move...everytime
right hook from ortho fighter
makes perfect sense
kessler would see that chuck liddell lookin ass punch a mile away and counter with a monster right hand
Kessler's preditable Jab and ZERO headmovement would be no problem for any ATG..let alone Ray Robinson.
Are you a mexican?????????
do you know how to read?
attempt #2:
please explain how robinson would beat kessler or get past his jab for that matter.
A lot more than anything Kessler has seen damn fool.
Ray saw Gene Fullmer...carmine basillio..jake lamotta...Kid Gavilan..ect ect.
Kessler saw Sloppy Joe and Anthony Mundane..He ran from Miranda..LOL
so please explain how robinson would beat him or get past his jab for that matter
You should rename the tite for this thead to " I don't know Squat about Boxing" Surar Ray needs no defense, his carreer speaks for itself. By the way I don'rt believe for one minute you actaully believe that Ray was overrated! Anything to generate comments..
feel free to explain why and how robinson would beat kessler and what can robinson bring to the table that kessler hasnt already seen?
a left hook?
wow
You should rename the title for this thread to " I don't know Squat about Boxing" Sugar Ray needs no defense, his career speaks for itself. By the way I don't believe for one minute you actually believe that Ray was overrated! Anything to generate comments..
This fool says Ray Robinson lacks savvy..:haha::haha::haha:
Dumb ass cocksucker.
Kessler couldn't even stop Anthony Mundine(KO'd by the dreaded SVEN OTTKE by ONE punch)
Kessler couldn't even stop shot to hell LIGHTWEIGHT Dingaan Thobela.
LOL
please explain to me what robinson brings to the table that kessler hasnt already seen?