What Happen to Margarito in the Mosley fight??

You hear it all the time that the styles make the fights, Margaritos style was just right for Mosleys style to knock him out.

SSM was too fast for him. He struck quick then held before Marg could answer. He never let Marg pick up the workrate he needed to be at his best. By the end of the fight he had Marg backin up. Dude just got dealt wit. SSM beat him clearly enuf that the outcome of a rematch looks like it'd be identical.

margo was drugged LMFAO

I think Shane's lack of fear and constant attack left Margarito buried. Mosley is such a damn warrior, as soon as he got tagged he jumped right back and fought Margarito.

Gonzo? Is that you? no bro soy el gurrerosoul:boxing:

margo mind wasent there.. he was too worried about wat had been discoverd

I'm glad you bring this is up Corey. The problems with Margarito that night were multidimensional but I know you're a fair cat so hear me out. First off the weight. It was well documented that the Tijuana Tornado morphed into the Tijuana Torta after all the celebrating he did post Cotto. Then there's the question of Mosley himself as an opponent. As many of you may or may not recall, Margarito wasn't all that interested in the fight and at one point called it off citing money. HBO coughed up more money and Tony took the fight. That implied that he was never that motivated to fight Mosley anyway and took the fight for the cash and overlooked Mosley in the process. Think about it. Mosley had just gone life and death with a faded Mayorga while Tony engaged in a modern classic. Why would Tony consider him that much of a threat?? The fight was signed very late 08' and Tony had to lose almost 40 pounds in 2 months. His body didn't look right to me from the start. Go back and watch the way his body looked in the Cotto fight and then watch him take his robe off in the Mosley fight and you'll see. And finally. Nazim "Nation of Islam" Richardson. This to me is the biggest problem which never gets talked about. Richardson should be considered the biggest saboteur in this whole situation for deliberately going into Tony's locker room to destabilize their camp. Before any of the plaster allegations surfaced the reports were that he went in there and immediately started bossing Capetillo around, which would explain why Capetillo may have grabbed on old training PAD (Not plaster) and used it in the wraps. A pad is an infraction, plaster gets you banned for life. Tony got his license suspended for a year so you do the math. Anyway, the word is that after the whole Richardson debacle, everyone in Tony's camp was steaming and they came out and fought a horrible fight. If I was Margarito I'd ask for a rematch at STaples, train properly and show everyone what a fluke that was. So yes, I think a properly prepared Tony whoops Choogar Chain Mozlee's steroid infested ass. That's True that ****ing ball of lard, piece of shit Nazim, took Margo of his game that night, for those idiots that don't know how to read, no plaster was found in Margarito's pads,they just found "particles". I think this was planed by GBP Oscar de la Fishnet to put Shame Mosley's career back on track, what a better way to reflect accusatory finger from a recently busted cheater than to create another cheater?

How come Margarito just collapse in the Mosley fight, I alway thought Margarito can be outbox by a pure boxer who doesnt stand and trade with him not a boxer/fighter type who actually fights him at his own game. Mosley was impressive on that fight but i was shocked by the way he beat margarito easily, I wasnt shocked that mosley won but its the manner in which he KO margarito that was a shock to me, Did margarito just had an off night because of the dressroom(Wrap fiasco) or was he just overrated or what?? If a rematch happens do people see the same outcome or a Margarito victory?? Me and my Grandpa debate about this all the time. He says Margarito must have not trained right because that didn't look like the same Marg, and that he probably thought he could Walk all over Mosley because Mosley is much older and barely got by Mayorga the fight before. And he thinks if they fought again in a rematch, that Magarito would win. I say Mosley would win because Margarito can only fight one way. And Mosley is a Boxer/Puncher. He could Box, Punch, make you miss, and all of that. Thats why he is Sugar Shane Mosley

Margarito may have won the fight with Cotto but he lost in the long run because Cotto crack his chin bad.

during the time leading to the fight i was hoping that he would but i knew there was a possibility of him losing......why he lost maybe because it was Mosley's day or because he lost confidence when they found the wraps on him but i believe from him making his entrance i could see he looked tired and not the same......when he threw his first punch (which was a jab) it looked completely different from his previous fights......i believe that after the cotto fight he felt on top of the world and wasnt hungry anymore like he was and i would see him on tv all the time in quite a few boxing events in mexico this leads me to believ he didnt take mosley seriously and didnt prepare properly for the fight......his stamina wasn't there during the fight and neither was his heart........i think that during the fight he just was too tired to do anything and when you get really tired like he did that day even if you have a best chin there is eventually your arms will get tired from from having them up for blocking and so will your legs and that is why get got knocked down that and the power of the punch that he was hit with margarito could win in a rematch IF he goes back to how he used to back in the day

Just watched that fight today, totally awesome. Loved seeing Mosley destroy Marga

Mosley is a hard puncher. He hits harder than Cotto.

Oh, I doubt that very much. Wouldn't defeating Mosley after the wraps were discovered better show that he didn't need them to win fights? Yes I believe that would be better but when your caught red handed you don't think straight as your guilty conscious start playing tricks on you letting you know how screwed up you are and how there is no way out. Also remember, that Tony wasn't the only one affected, it was his whole team. BTW even if he would have won that still wouldn't have prove that this was the first time they relied on an illegal substance or that it was all just an innocent mistake. So win or loose they still had to deal with being caught.

Margarito looked very sluggish in that fight i think he had trouble making weight, not making excuses i think Mosley beats him on any night because of his power being great and ability to box. But Margarito did look different in that fight and the prefight stuff probably made things worse mentally on him. I think in a rematch Mosley still wins but by decision and not KO.

I think your 100% right. In boxing your mental state is just as important as your physical condition and Margie was there but he really wasn't there. I'm sure he wasn't thinking about executing the game plan in this fight; he was probably thinking Im done, my career is done, everyone in Mexico is going to know im a cheater. Man if that's not enough to discourage you to the point of ineptitude I dont know what will. Call me crazy but I think he actually looked forward to getting knocked out as a form of getting pity or praise for valor,while escaping some of the wrath that was sure to come. BTW Im not saying that this was the reason Mosley won but it definitely contributed in how vicious and lopsided the fight was. Oh, I doubt that very much. Wouldn't defeating Mosley after the wraps were discovered better show that he didn't need them to win fights?

I'm glad you bring this is up Corey. The problems with Margarito that night were multidimensional but I know you're a fair cat so hear me out. First off the weight. It was well documented that the Tijuana Tornado morphed into the Tijuana Torta after all the celebrating he did post Cotto. Then there's the question of Mosley himself as an opponent. As many of you may or may not recall, Margarito wasn't all that interested in the fight and at one point called it off citing money. HBO coughed up more money and Tony took the fight. That implied that he was never that motivated to fight Mosley anyway and took the fight for the cash and overlooked Mosley in the process. Think about it. Mosley had just gone life and death with a faded Mayorga while Tony engaged in a modern classic. Why would Tony consider him that much of a threat?? The fight was signed very late 08' and Tony had to lose almost 40 pounds in 2 months. His body didn't look right to me from the start. Go back and watch the way his body looked in the Cotto fight and then watch him take his robe off in the Mosley fight and you'll see. And finally. Nazim "Nation of Islam" Richardson. This to me is the biggest problem which never gets talked about. Richardson should be considered the biggest saboteur in this whole situation for deliberately going into Tony's locker room to destabilize their camp. Before any of the plaster allegations surfaced the reports were that he went in there and immediately started bossing Capetillo around, which would explain why Capetillo may have grabbed on old training PAD (Not plaster) and used it in the wraps. A pad is an infraction, plaster gets you banned for life. Tony got his license suspended for a year so you do the math. Anyway, the word is that after the whole Richardson debacle, everyone in Tony's camp was steaming and they came out and fought a horrible fight. If I was Margarito I'd ask for a rematch at STaples, train properly and show everyone what a fluke that was. So yes, I think a properly prepared Tony whoops Choogar Chain Mozlee's steroid infested ass. You had me going until you that Nation of Islam reference. What does that have to do with anything? Cut that sh*t out, man. Nevertheless, interesting points.

I think cotto cracked his chin and Mosley broke it. His chin isn't cracked he took bomb after bomb for 8 rounds from mosley, anyone else wouldve been KOd COLD wayyyyyyy earlier. Mind you, he got stopped but wasn't out cold

^^^ while I agree with you that mosley's plan was a perfect one... I really think that getting caught b4 the fight... affect him.. mosley was better in every aspect... but i cant pretend to ignore the fact that margie didnt look as confident as his previous fights flaw.... i agree with you with the plan... but do u really think that margie's wasnt affected at all with the situation? i personally think that he did knew about the wraps and he knew that it was going to have to deal with that after the fight.. he knew that he was about to get exposed// I think your 100% right. In boxing your mental state is just as important as your physical condition and Margie was there but he really wasn't there. I'm sure he wasn't thinking about executing the game plan in this fight; he was probably thinking Im done, my career is done, everyone in Mexico is going to know im a cheater. Man if that's not enough to discourage you to the point of ineptitude I dont know what will. Call me crazy but I think he actually looked forward to getting knocked out as a form of getting pity or praise for valor,while escaping some of the wrath that was sure to come. BTW Im not saying that this was the reason Mosley won but it definitely contributed in how vicious and lopsided the fight was.

Mosley is the better fighter. Period. Margarito to me seemed overtrained, plus his mind was on the hand wraps! I don't think he properly trained, but I don't think he has fought anyone as strong as Mosley, not even Cintron.