For one to say PBF is not a draw or is a less of a draw than say Cotto or Paq is absurd. Just look at this:
PBF vs DLH
2.4 million buys
Highest Revenue for a Single Pay-Per-View Event
New Record: $120.0 million for the May 5, 2007
Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight.
Thats roughly 600k more buys than DLH next highest grossing fight, Which was Trininadad. 1.5 million more than Mosley and 1 million more than his fight with BHOP.
DLH vs PAQ
1.25 million PPV buys
On December 10, 2008, HBO announced that the fight generated totaling more than $70 million in PPV revenue
Thats 1.2 million less buys and 50 million dollars less in gate revenue. If PAQ is so much a bigger draw than PBF then why did this fight barely produce half of the PBF vs DLH fight?
Now think about this, Which would you rather see?
Your favorite team in a almost sure victory? Or , would you rather see the team you hate the most against an opponent that they might lose to and end thier undefeated season?
Chances are you will pick the latter. This is what makes PBF a bigger draw than anybody fighting as of right now.
The last few years have shown a trend, If there is a fighter that seems to have a chance to be able to defeat PBF, his fan base boostes.
I.E.: In the PBF vs DLH fight you had 3 main group following the fight.
Obviously DLH's huge fan base- the reason he is the PPV king.
PBF's moderately large fan base- I would estimate its about the same as cotto maybe smaller.
And the last group is the one that makes PBF's, money, fame and hate
People who watch his fights just to see him lose.
If you add PBF's own fan base along with the people who hate him and will pick anyone he fights against to beat him and want to se him lose. Then PBF is certainly a larger draw than anybody fighting as of now.
Right now alot of the people who want to see PBF lose to JMM proably never supported or watched a JMM before they just want to see PBF lose. Logiically if you look at all of these factors PBF is at the least slightly a larger draw than PAQ.
what the f*ck does them being american have anyting to do with anything?
it doesnt. how many american boxers go their whole careers and never get big. tons. more than those who end up getting big.
so come one with the dumb american boxer BS
To the active avid boxing fan its not much because he's in the boxing community watching all the fights small and big. To the casual fan who watches rarely and only when its a huge fight yes, it makes a total difference.
To get to the point, Marketability. ATM PBF had more marketability than Pac did. Many factors come into play. That he's had much more public exposure to mainstream media, ha, even that fact that he speaks fluent english helps him.
Truthfully I'm sick of arguing about this topic. Im just a fan of all boxing just like anyone else here.
pacman and mayweather is both a drawer in boxing,
people love to see hero vs villain
so what if mayweather is from us is that means he draw massive audience, but pacman draw almost our entire nation look at those stupid politicians following him in every fight.....:lol1::lol1::lol1:
For one to say PBF is not a draw or is a less of a draw than say Cotto or Paq is absurd. Just look at this:
PBF vs DLH
2.4 million buys
Highest Revenue for a Single Pay-Per-View Event
New Record: $120.0 million for the May 5, 2007
Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight.
Thats roughly 600k more buys than DLH next highest grossing fight, Which was Trininadad. 1.5 million more than Mosley and 1 million more than his fight with BHOP.
DLH vs PAQ
1.25 million PPV buys
On December 10, 2008, HBO announced that the fight generated totaling more than $70 million in PPV revenue
Thats 1.2 million less buys and 50 million dollars less in gate revenue. If PAQ is so much a bigger draw than PBF then why did this fight barely produce half of the PBF vs DLH fight?
Now think about this, Which would you rather see?
Your favorite team in a almost sure victory? Or , would you rather see the team you hate the most against an opponent that they might lose to and end thier undefeated season?
Chances are you will pick the latter. This is what makes PBF a bigger draw than anybody fighting as of right now.
The last few years have shown a trend, If there is a fighter that seems to have a chance to be able to defeat PBF, his fan base boostes.
I.E.: In the PBF vs DLH fight you had 3 main group following the fight.
Obviously DLH's huge fan base- the reason he is the PPV king.
PBF's moderately large fan base- I would estimate its about the same as cotto maybe smaller.
And the last group is the one that makes PBF's, money, fame and hate
People who watch his fights just to see him lose.
If you add PBF's own fan base along with the people who hate him and will pick anyone he fights against to beat him and want to se him lose. Then PBF is certainly a larger draw than anybody fighting as of now.
Right now alot of the people who want to see PBF lose to JMM proably never supported or watched a JMM before they just want to see PBF lose. Logiically if you look at all of these factors PBF is at the least slightly a larger draw than PAQ.
horus through & through...
For one to say PBF is not a draw or is a less of a draw than say Cotto or Paq is absurd. Just look at this:
PBF vs DLH
2.4 million buys
Highest Revenue for a Single Pay-Per-View Event
New Record: $120.0 million for the May 5, 2007
Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight.
Thats roughly 600k more buys than DLH next highest grossing fight, Which was Trininadad. 1.5 million more than Mosley and 1 million more than his fight with BHOP.
DLH vs PAQ
1.25 million PPV buys
On December 10, 2008, HBO announced that the fight generated totaling more than $70 million in PPV revenue
Thats 1.2 million less buys and 50 million dollars less in gate revenue. If PAQ is so much a bigger draw than PBF then why did this fight barely produce half of the PBF vs DLH fight?
Now think about this, Which would you rather see?
Your favorite team in a almost sure victory? Or , would you rather see the team you hate the most against an opponent that they might lose to and end thier undefeated season?
Chances are you will pick the latter. This is what makes PBF a bigger draw than anybody fighting as of right now.
The last few years have shown a trend, If there is a fighter that seems to have a chance to be able to defeat PBF, his fan base boostes.
I.E.: In the PBF vs DLH fight you had 3 main group following the fight.
Obviously DLH's huge fan base- the reason he is the PPV king.
PBF's moderately large fan base- I would estimate its about the same as cotto maybe smaller.
And the last group is the one that makes PBF's, money, fame and hate
People who watch his fights just to see him lose.
If you add PBF's own fan base along with the people who hate him and will pick anyone he fights against to beat him and want to se him lose. Then PBF is certainly a larger draw than anybody fighting as of now.
Right now alot of the people who want to see PBF lose to JMM proably never supported or watched a JMM before they just want to see PBF lose. Logiically if you look at all of these factors PBF is at the least slightly a larger draw than PAQ.
I disagree
If you check the ticket sales for the JMM vs PBF fight, you'd see nobody was buying into it. They need more time to come up with a better game plan to sell the fight, so why not be "injured" for a little bit to try again at generating another buzz?
Oscar sold out arenas fighting ham and eggers. Pacquiao's last 2 victories trump anything Floyd's done in the last few years simply off his dominance. People want to see action, and they get that with a Pacquiao fight...not so much a Floyd fight.
Check Floyd's PPV buys before Oscar. They were very laughable considering he screams he's this big draw.
I think him going to the UK added a whole knew aspect of his ability to draw that nobody is factoring in. If he gets half of the people that used to watch Hatton to watch him and he can still build a fight here the way he used to then its hard to deny that he is a draw. Pac is a draw as well. People who claim Pac is a bigger draw at this point do not have any evidence to support that claim. If Floyd fights and doesn't do any numbers then you can make that claim. For now though they are defiantly the top two draws in boxing but we may not be sure who is number 1.
Wrong, if everyone saw it as such a mismatch, why was Oscar only a 2-1 favorite? The people that matter, the ones betting on the fight obviously didnt see this big mismatch that so called experts said it was.
Because more than half of Las Vegas revenue from gambling comes from Asian gamboholics and that isn't no joke. All kidding aside your point holds some ground but if 99% of the boxings expert panel agreed on this general consensus, that is was a mismatch and it was just a stunt for DLH so he could make one last big profit from fighting before retiring then their opinons have to hold merit. BTW, it was 2to1 towards the last day of betting. It was closer to 4 a week before that. Also ppl get emotionally attached especially when its a fighter like Pac.
Which would you say do larger PPV buys?
PAQ vs Cotto
PBF vs Cotto
PBF vs Paq
People have be asking for PBF vs Cotto for years and PAQ vs PBF is clamoured to be the biggest money fight in years.
People have just recently started flirted with the idea of Cotto vs PAQ. What im saying is PBF has been building his hype for years while PAQ has just recently aqquired his and cotto has been staedy but nothing outstanding. Thats why PBF is the biggest draw in boxing.[/QUOTE
The idea of Pac vs Cotto only came recently because no one in their right mind wouldve ever considered the idea 2 years ago ROFL! Whereas everyone was expecting PBF to but instead he retired. I dont understand how PBF still has loyal fans when hes becoming into DLH clone. A business man which is what all true boxing fans hate. We want to see the exciting fights. The fights that no one ever saw coming.
Your logic as to why PBF is boxings biggest draw even after his 2 year BULLS*T retirement is flawed and dumb. Stop dwelling on the past and focus on the present. Pac is undoubtedly boxings biggest draw because he's coming off 3 humongous dominant wins. You can dispute this by arguing his opposition but even then Pac won all fights in unimaginable fashion. Even the fights he was favored to win from the getgo he won in unthinkable ways. Call me a pac nuthugger I really dont care. But you can't deny anything I've said.
For one to say PBF is not a draw or is a less of a draw than say Cotto or Paq is absurd. Just look at this:
PBF vs DLH
2.4 million buys
Highest Revenue for a Single Pay-Per-View Event
New Record: $120.0 million for the May 5, 2007
Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight.
Thats roughly 600k more buys than DLH next highest grossing fight, Which was Trininadad. 1.5 million more than Mosley and 1 million more than his fight with BHOP.
DLH vs PAQ
1.25 million PPV buys
On December 10, 2008, HBO announced that the fight generated totaling more than $70 million in PPV revenue
Thats 1.2 million less buys and 50 million dollars less in gate revenue. If PAQ is so much a bigger draw than PBF then why did this fight barely produce half of the PBF vs DLH fight?
Now think about this, Which would you rather see?
Your favorite team in a almost sure victory? Or , would you rather see the team you hate the most against an opponent that they might lose to and end thier undefeated season?
Chances are you will pick the latter. This is what makes PBF a bigger draw than anybody fighting as of right now.
The last few years have shown a trend, If there is a fighter that seems to have a chance to be able to defeat PBF, his fan base boostes.
I.E.: In the PBF vs DLH fight you had 3 main group following the fight.
Obviously DLH's huge fan base- the reason he is the PPV king.
PBF's moderately large fan base- I would estimate its about the same as cotto maybe smaller.
And the last group is the one that makes PBF's, money, fame and hate
People who watch his fights just to see him lose.
If you add PBF's own fan base along with the people who hate him and will pick anyone he fights against to beat him and want to se him lose. Then PBF is certainly a larger draw than anybody fighting as of now.
Right now alot of the people who want to see PBF lose to JMM proably never supported or watched a JMM before they just want to see PBF lose. Logiically if you look at all of these factors PBF is at the least slightly a larger draw than PAQ.
Mayweather is American, tht is the main reason he is a bigger draw.
it doesn't make a difference. mayweather right now is injured and boxing can't expect things to wait for him. he made and agreement with JMM, claiming he "called him out", or whatever, so he has to be a man an honor that agreement. the next big fight after floyd is cotto, and pacquiao was impressed at a man that can sell 18 thousand tickets and has a whole country behind him. it's the way life is, pac can fight floyd in 2010 if he gets by cotto. but if that happens, then floyd will really have to take the low low end of the deal, and that's just the way he's going to have to deal with it, cuz that's just the way pacquiao rolls.
Which would you say do larger PPV buys?
PAQ vs Cotto
PBF vs Cotto
PBF vs Paq
People have be asking for PBF vs Cotto for years and PAQ vs PBF is clamoured to be the biggest money fight in years.
People have just recently started flirted with the idea of Cotto vs PAQ. What im saying is PBF has been building his hype for years while PAQ has just recently aqquired his and cotto has been staedy but nothing outstanding. Thats why PBF is the biggest draw in boxing.
it doesn't make a difference. mayweather right now is injured and boxing can't expect things to wait for him. he made and agreement with JMM, claiming he "called him out", or whatever, so he has to be a man an honor that agreement. the next big fight after floyd is cotto, and pacquiao was impressed at a man that can sell 18 thousand tickets and has a whole country behind him. it's the way life is, pac can fight floyd in 2010 if he gets by cotto. but if that happens, then floyd will really have to take the low low end of the deal, and that's just the way he's going to have to deal with it, cuz that's just the way pacquiao rolls.
For one to say PBF is not a draw or is a less of a draw than say Cotto or Paq is absurd. Just look at this:
PBF vs DLH
2.4 million buys
Highest Revenue for a Single Pay-Per-View Event
New Record: $120.0 million for the May 5, 2007
Oscar De La Hoya - Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight.
Thats roughly 600k more buys than DLH next highest grossing fight, Which was Trininadad. 1.5 million more than Mosley and 1 million more than his fight with BHOP.
DLH vs PAQ
1.25 million PPV buys
On December 10, 2008, HBO announced that the fight generated totaling more than $70 million in PPV revenue
Thats 1.2 million less buys and 50 million dollars less in gate revenue. If PAQ is so much a bigger draw than PBF then why did this fight barely produce half of the PBF vs DLH fight?
Now think about this, Which would you rather see?
Your favorite team in a almost sure victory? Or , would you rather see the team you hate the most against an opponent that they might lose to and end thier undefeated season?
Chances are you will pick the latter. This is what makes PBF a bigger draw than anybody fighting as of right now.
The last few years have shown a trend, If there is a fighter that seems to have a chance to be able to defeat PBF, his fan base boostes.
I.E.: In the PBF vs DLH fight you had 3 main group following the fight.
Obviously DLH's huge fan base- the reason he is the PPV king.
PBF's moderately large fan base- I would estimate its about the same as cotto maybe smaller.
And the last group is the one that makes PBF's, money, fame and hate
People who watch his fights just to see him lose.
If you add PBF's own fan base along with the people who hate him and will pick anyone he fights against to beat him and want to se him lose. Then PBF is certainly a larger draw than anybody fighting as of now.
Right now alot of the people who want to see PBF lose to JMM proably never supported or watched a JMM before they just want to see PBF lose. Logiically if you look at all of these factors PBF is at the least slightly a larger draw than PAQ.
When announcement was made that DLH would fight Pac several bloggers and just the boxing community as a whole mainly saw the fight as a mismatch; this is nothing new. PBF and DLH are both American born. They've been in the limelight of US boxing much longer than Pac has. The chances of a foreign champion to get the same attention as someone who was born and bred in US is highly unlikely. You just gotta admit...Even with all the success Pac has gotten he still has not cross over as far as mainstream media goes in the United States. FFS Mayweather did Dancing w/ the stars and WWE for crying out loud. He's been on all the late night shows. Has Pac actually been broadcasted on any live American TV? No. All these factors come into play as to why I think Pac didnt sell as much when he fought DLH.
One thing is for sure though. No one will dispute that whose the more exciting fighter to watch. Even Cus D'Amato said " It's all about putting asses in those seats". No one can blame PBF for his fighting style thats just how he fights.