if he fights Cotto at a Catch weight below welterweight. Because Cotto can always claim he had trouble making the weight if he is unsuccessful in the fight.
I can can just see it now "I was weight drained" and fair enough he might end up draining himself as well.
Look I really like Pac, but I think he should just straight out fight him at 147 like he did Oscar.
Pac gets dissed and no cred if he fights Cotto below 147. He gets hurt if he fights him at 147. Pac oughta just lay off Cotto and defend his title at 140.
It completely shocks me that anyone can really have anything negative to say- at least a personal style attack- about either of these guys. Both Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao fight hard, try to give the fans what they want, and do most of their talking in the ring. I've noticed Cotto, like when he was interviewed saying he had a duty to try and knock out Clottey, is very attuned to what his Puerto Rican fan base desires. It's the same thing with Pacquiao. Both men seem to have genuine interest in pleasing the people that make their careers possible. That's an argument you can't always make about a fighter.
people on these forums. i don't think half of them use the other side of their brain. absolutely no use of logic. they use their nuthugging and shit out their mouth method to perform a breakdown of reasoning.
cotto fans - please stop saying he will be p4p king or even mention p4p if the dude can't lose 1-2lbs or he'll be done for. second. dude fights at welter but fightnight is a middleweight.
i like cotto as a fighter cause he's a beast and shows he has heart. big plus is he's not a cock sucker like gayweather.
you people have never worked out a day in your lives if you can't lose a lb or even lose weight by watching your calorie intake.
It completely shocks me that anyone can really have anything negative to say- at least a personal style attack- about either of these guys. Both Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao fight hard, try to give the fans what they want, and do most of their talking in the ring. I've noticed Cotto, like when he was interviewed saying he had a duty to try and knock out Clottey, is very attuned to what his Puerto Rican fan base desires. It's the same thing with Pacquiao. Both men seem to have genuine interest in pleasing the people that make their careers possible. That's an argument you can't always make about a fighter.
if he fights Cotto at a Catch weight below welterweight. Because Cotto can always claim he had trouble making the weight if he is unsuccessful in the fight.
I can can just see it now "I was weight drained" and fair enough he might end up draining himself as well.
Look I really like Pac, but I think he should just straight out fight him at 147 like he did Oscar.Excuses work both ways. If miguel angel beat pac, then pac can also claim that cotto is just too big for him despite the catch weight.
Cotto is given the free will to agree or disagree at 144. if ever, fans will make the excuses for him.
Since when has Cotto looked for excuses for losing a fight? In the Margarito fight it took him a while to even think that Margarito used the plaster wraps in the fight against him, and even then he blamed himself for not sending someone to check the wraps. So if Cotto signs the contract he will never say he was weight drained nor anything like that.
Shit. Fuk I am ignorant about catchweights.
I like Pac a lot. I just think he should fight Miguel at 147.
Fair enough, I disagree. 2lbs isn't winning/losing in this fight, it's just for both guys to be within 1lb of each other 36 hours before the bell rings.
141-147 is the WW limit so the WW title will be on the line.
Shit. Fuk I am ignorant about catchweights.
I like Pac a lot. I just think he should fight Miguel at 147.
People move up in weight all the time and dont ask for concessions. You're right that is a rare spot to be in. But I wouldnt be proud of it. This is just a case of Arum trying to give his cash cow every possible advantage.
Please name me these so called concessions that have been asked for by pac in any of his previous fights...
Wouldn't be proud? After 50+ pro fights you ask for a couple lbs and suddenly you shouldnt be a proud lol. C'mon man thats insane.
If there is practically no difference between a Cotto at 147 and at 144/45 then why fight at the catchweight? Why not fight for the WW title?
141-147 is the WW limit so the WW title will be on the line.
Maaaan, **** this shit. He came in at 146 on Saturday. All he needs to do is have a great big dump and he's good to go. If you are not confident in Cotto winning, be honest and say so. Otherwise stop making excuses. :fing02:
The Oscar fight / 147 was a one-off deal, and this was made clear by Freddie Roach months ago.
If there is practically no difference between a Cotto at 147 and at 144/45 then why fight at the catchweight? Why not fight for the WW title?
He was a flyweight when he was like 16 years old. That doesnt even count. Stop hanging your hat on it.
Point is he's gone up & had success through the divisions. Just admit that it's very rare for someone to be in the position that he's in & maybe you'll get over your notion of 2lbs being life/death in this fight.
yo sam, how do u know he came in at 146?
Whoops. I meant he came in at 146 at the weigh-in.
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Maaaan, **** this shit. He came in at 146 on Saturday. All he needs to do is have a great big dump and he's good to go. If you are not confident in Cotto winning, be honest and say so. Otherwise stop making excuses. :fing02:
The Oscar fight / 147 was a one-off deal, and this was made clear by Freddie Roach months ago.
yo sam, how do u know he came in at 146?
Maaaan, **** this shit. He came in at 146 on Saturday. All he needs to do is have a great big dump and he's good to go. If you are not confident in Cotto winning, be honest and say so. Otherwise stop making excuses. :fing02:
The Oscar fight / 147 was a one-off deal, and this was made clear by Freddie Roach months ago.
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