I'm sorry people, but I didn't see anything new from Miguel that would make me think he could survive 12 hard rounds with Antonio Margarito.
He couldn't stop the uppercut. He blew his wad in the first six rounds then started back pedaling. He was clearly affected by Clottey's shots (and Clottey is not a big puncher). Josh just didn't put enough pressure on Miguel last night (although I still think he deserved the decision).
Antonio Margarito would have put that pressure on Cotto. If it was Tony in there with Miguel last night, the fight would have been over by the 9th round.
plenty of people can beat him. people with talent and not just high work rate, like pwill for example.
unplastered margo isn't shit. mosley proved it in january
Margarito would make him quit again man, face it... If he don't quit he gets KTFO. And you're right PWill would murder him.
makes me laugh how people think cotto is ment demolish clottey with blood blinded his left eye vulnerable for anyones rite hand..i could hav punched cotto...who on earth has ever looked good agenst clottey
put pac mans face next to cottos fist
enough said
question... do you think margarito has been using this for his whole career? the guy had lost FIVE TIMES already. it more than likely that he started using it on williams's bout or the ones after it
well that's why i asked if he's ever been questioned about it before...it was a serious question...
We should never see Marg in the ring again he's a disgrace to our sport. Cotto is twice the man he is and Clottey annoyed me how he didn't push himself enough to win the fight outright, lazy and faked injury and tried his best to get points deducted. He lost the right to complain about the decision.
Chicano, you can believe what you want I honestly believe Margarito cheated against Cotto. Do I like Tito ofcourse that was one of the most exciting fighters in years. Do I realize Tito had flaws yes. Do I have to pick one or the other? They are both proven exciting fighters.
You only believe that cuz you are a Cotto nuthugger. It's O.K. He's your hero. Nobody can possibly beat him, unless of course, they are cheating, right?
Do you like Tito as well??
Margs fought just as tough if not tougher dudes than Cotto, till its proven that he cheated in those fights, I'll give him his props for now.
It's not a matter of who Margarito fought. He is a coward for one because he attempted to cheat not to mention against a man that has children (which in my opinion makes it even worse). Not the cheating Sammy Sosa does putting corks in bats but putting a foreign substance that is used to make CASTS on the knuckles of both wraps before a boxing match. That to me is a sick man and a freakin coward, he can be from wherever my opinion will never change on what someone attempting to do that is. Not to mention since I believe he got away with this before what does it matter if he fought King Kong if he cheated? Is that being brave or a "real man"?
Do you like Tito as well??
Margs fought just as tough if not tougher dudes than Cotto, till its proven that he cheated in those fights, I'll give him his props for now.
Chicano, you can believe what you want I honestly believe Margarito cheated against Cotto. Do I like Tito ofcourse that was one of the most exciting fighters in years. Do I realize Tito had flaws yes. Do I have to pick one or the other? They are both proven exciting fighters.
I'm far from being nationalistic unlike some Cotto fans on here. Their double standards are so noticeable even majority of posters on here know it. I don't have many favorite Mexican boxers, in fact I'm not even a Morales fan who Mexicans adore. Nice try.Well then nice try to you as well, I like Cotto because he's a real man unlike that coward you call "Tijuana Tornado." LOL @ you giving me "ownange later".
Cotto running at MSG on the eve of the Puerto Rican Day Parade = Cotto winning the rounds.
It's called boxing (See Clumsy Cintron outboxing the skilless "Perro" for definition)
we're not in a court here bro, there's no need for hard evidence. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that margo had used plaster before
but there is need for hard evidence if you are accusing someone of being guilty.
you can speculate, guesstimate, intuit, jump to conclusions all you want, but it doesn't make him guilty.
he doesn't have the right style, but he does have more than enough skills. daniel santos beat margo for god's sake
i agree, the skills and talent are there, but the defense and gameplan and stamina are not.
he was going backwards against clottey because he needed to keep wiping off the blood from his eye. he was severely handicapped. most fighters would've quit after the 4th and won an easy technical decision
the cut was bad, but clottey didn't even use it to his advantage. clottey didn't jab at the cut, nor did he throw enough overhand rights or right hooks to exploit the cut.
the thing is cotto was bleeding against margo too.
what happens if cotto bleeds against either margo or clottey in the rematch? basically cotto will have to buck up and fight through it again.
finally yeah, cotto is very beatable, just not as beatable as clottey and especially margarito. pac might do the job legitimately on november
agreed. I'm not mad that cotto split decisioned clottey. I just think that one score was outrageous. clottey complains way too much.
margo is an unknown right now since mosley destroyed him. not sure how he will look in the rematch. but if margo is the same, and cotto is the same he will lose.
personally, I think cotto is too big for pac. I think pac is biting off more than he can chew.
He attempted to cheat. Still a bad thing don't get me wrong but to officially call him a cheat, there has to be proof that he has cheated. You stans haven't found none.
Troll are what your ****ing buddies are doing. You nationalistic fools are so wrapped up in Cotto's nuts that you fail to see his WEAKNESSES!!
I don't always agree with what the TS posts at times but Cotto isn't great against people that pressure him and like to throw uppercuts.
You guys don't want to see all the Powerpunches by ROUND 8 that Margs threw, nor the shots he was taking from Cotto. How effective was Cotto's signature body shot against Margs?? Did Plaster had to do with the way Margs was covering his body?? IDIOTS!!
Sounds like you're the "nationalistic" one here "Chicano", defending a guy that attempted to cheat ut that's you not me I don't defend people that disgrace my people, but more power to you. I'm aware of Cotto's weaknesses. Isn't great? Is that a weakness not being "great" at something? If it is then that doesn't sound to bad to me. Are you going off on this that he isn't great when he is being pressured due to your "non-cheating" arm punching face demolisher Margarito and Clottey fighting Cotto while Cotto had a cut (28 stitches) above his right eye the size of the equator for 9 rounds?
he's not a normal man in boxing. you couldn't dream of being as great as him in boxing, so no, he isn't ordinary. he's a world class fighter that none of us will be
and yeah, he quit. margo cheated, so what's to blame? who do you respect more, a cheater or a quitter?
I respect the quitter more, but there's no evidence margo cheated against cotto.
cotto was fighting with this corner:
-new, unexperienced trainer
-father
-brother
-good cutman
he fought the #3 welter with one eye and no corner and beat him via a close decision
put ALL those factors in a rematch against marg (add plaster to that if you'd like) and cotto should get KO'd
but cotto didn't have all that the first fight and he still quit. cotto just don't have the right style to beat margo right now. a real trainer would do wonders.
that could be true, but he said that this "trainer" was temporary due to the lack of time. he needed someone that knew him
better hope cotto gets a real trainer to patch up that defense and lay out a gameplan soon.
he wouldn't need to fight backwards if margo didn't hit him with plaster to bust him up
cotto was fighting backwards against clottey and he didn't have plaster. face it, cotto is very beatable and vulnerable.
the great majority of the press, analysts, and fans are pretty convinced about it too
there is definitely a cloud of suspicion, but that's all it is suspicion.
cotto fighting rounds against a guy that stopped punching for some reason = cotto winning the rounds
margarito without a license for cheating = unnecessary thread
cotto did beat clottey imho, but margo makes cotto quit again if cotto doesn't get a new trainer.
If he rematches Margarito again, he will gas, he ain't got no choice cuz there will be no "slowing down the pace" with Antonio Margarito unless he can hurt him from the get go like Shane did.
cotto could pull it off if his defense was better. as is, margo rapes him again.
If he rematches Margarito again, he will gas, he ain't got no choice cuz there will be no "slowing down the pace" with Antonio Margarito unless he can hurt him from the get go like Shane did.
Shane hits harder than Cotto, and Shane can hit hard off the backfoot, Cotto can't. Shane also has 15 round stamina.
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