1.) lol @ "granite chined" clottey going down in the first round with a jab.
2.) clottey in the THRID round, already a goddamn headbutt, ****
3.) wtf is with cotto body droping clottey lol
4.) emmanuel stewart was biased all night for clottey, even rounds that jim and harold had for cotto, he had for clottey.
5.) the same judge that had cotto ahead in the judah fight by 6 points (which is BS) had it 116-111, WTF!!!!
it was a good fight,
i had it a draw.
I didn't think Steward was incorrect with the comments he was making about Clottey. Clottey was the bigger, stronger guy landing the better punches for many rounds. He did very well in the middle of the fight and won his rounds BIG. I thought Steward was correct to say many of the things he said. He was somewhat propping up Clottey but Lamps was doing that 2x as much for Cotto.
Anybody whining one way or the other about any of the fouls in that fight need to stop too. The headbutt WAS unintentional as far as I could see. Cotto was moving to the side and Clottey was bringing that head up and it caught Cotto. That's a big, hard ****in dome so naturally what happened happened. Cotto is a beast for fighting as long as he did with a cut of that magnitude and couldn't see the right hand coming all night from there on out.
Cotto THROWING Clottey to the ground? Maybe if Clottey had a better way of defending himself than jumping on Cotto's head and holding him he wouldn't have gotten SHRUGGED the **** off. Cotto did nothing wrong there. He doesn't come to hold and clinch. He wanted to fight.
most of the hbo crew was biased towards cotto.I remember in one round where clottey was dominating and right at the last second of the round cotto landed one left hook and the guys were saying thay gave the round to cotto on the basis of one left hook.They said that the hook caught the judges eyes and cotto took the round.Now thats some fuked up shit!
lol, i remmember that lol
most of the hbo crew was biased towards cotto.I remember in one round where clottey was dominating and right at the last second of the round cotto landed one left hook and the guys were saying thay gave the round to cotto on the basis of one left hook.They said that the hook caught the judges eyes and cotto took the round.Now thats some fuked up shit!
Clottey's knee was hurt from Cotto stepping on him while he was down. After pushing him down from the clinch, Cotto steps back over his foot, twisting his knee.
Cotto sure isn't shy about using desparation tactics...it's strategy to a point, but soon enough you're just acting like Andrew Golota.
Clottey won 8 rnds on my card when i rewatched it. Last night I thought he won 7.
co-sign.......Clottey didnt need the 12th rd on my card.......plus everybody is sayin Clottey lost the LAST 2 ROUNDS.......thats bullshit.......Clottey won the 11th round!!!....as a matter of fact Clottey took EVERY round from 7-11 to go with rounds 2, 3, and 5..........:boxing:
i thought he won 7 rounds too.....i even gave cotto rounds 11 & 12...
i gave cotto 1,4,6,11,12......so after the 10th, which i gave clottey, i figured then cotto shouldn't win this fight unless he knocks clottey out.....i guess two judges were watching a completely different fight than i was....that one judge was right on point 114-113 clottey, but i don't know what fight the other 2 judges saw.
The biase for cotto by Jim lampley especially has to stop, He's making himself look stupid because he's suppose to call a fight between two fighters, He needs to surpress his man-crush that he has for cotto, He did the samething in the Margarito fight until cotto couldnt continue anymore.
Clottey won 8 rnds on my card when i rewatched it. Last night I thought he won 7.
co-sign.......Clottey didnt need the 12th rd on my card.......plus everybody is sayin Clottey lost the LAST 2 ROUNDS.......thats bullshit.......Clottey won the 11th round!!!....as a matter of fact Clottey took EVERY round from 7-11 to go with rounds 2, 3, and 5..........:boxing:
If you were bleeding like he was I bet you would not even fight you can talk all you want but give credit to Cotto for fighting 8 rounds with limited vision and bleeding. He won the fight by one or two rounds but newbies out there follow the lederman card lol what a bunch of noobs
Umm Lederman had it for Cotto....
If you were bleeding like he was I bet you would not even fight you can talk all you want but give credit to Cotto for fighting 8 rounds with limited vision and bleeding. He won the fight by one or two rounds but newbies out there follow the lederman card lol what a bunch of noobs
1.) lol @ "granite chined" clottey going down in the first round with a jab.
2.) clottey in the THRID round, already a goddamn headbutt, ****
3.) wtf is with cotto body droping clottey lol
4.) emmanuel stewart was biased all night for clottey, even rounds that jim and harold had for cotto, he had for clottey.
5.) the same judge that had cotto ahead in the judah fight by 6 points (which is BS) had it 116-111, WTF!!!!
it was a good fight,
i had it a draw.
since when were harold lederman, and jim lampley any type of authority figures? most fights i watch on HBO, i give rounds to one fighter that harold lederman somehow sees the other fighter winning.....last night was no different. it's okay if you had cotto winning the fight, but if he did, he won by no more than a point......i had clottey winning by a point, and that fourth round everybody had a draw, i decided to give that to cotto....generously
True post! I'm a huge Cotto fan and the commentating from Lampley was totally bias toward Cotto - which clearly highlighted that Steward was for Clottey...it is what it is..
Lampley has been like that for Cotto for awhile now...
its not even your quote that bothers me but its everyones man. you guys are ****in cotto haters, cotto won more rounds but the wons clottey won were a lil more one sided than cottos and besides clottey like all fights ****in headbutts and cuts which may have ****ed up cottos perfomance, and the hit behind clotteys head, watch the replay you dumbasses (whoever said it was wrong) the whole fight including that part cotto was trying to corner clottey and clottey was grabbing cottos arm so he had the hit behind his head coming to him ok.... watch and done talk shit... please.... and clottey fell on the floor cuz he wanted to hold and cotto got away using boxing IQ, i thought cotto won because he caught clottey off balance in the 1st with a kd if not it woulda been a draw, and my have been diff if clottey had not headbutted with that said clottey shut up you cry baby god deng i hate your excuse having ass, at least cotto at one point said when he lost margarito was the better man that night.
The punch in the back of the head was wrong.. look at the ref's reaction and yes they showed it on replay..Cotto was looking at him and still threw the punch.. that was the reason why the ref got upset...
It's not that we are all Cotto haters, we are just saying that we thought he lost IMO..
But Cotto gots the dub, good for him, hope there will be a rematch but there won't be...
I actually thought that commentary was extremely biased for Cotto, to the point where I had to turn it off in the middle of the fight.
Usually it doesn't bother me but Lampley and co. nearly bursting out crying everytime Cotto landed anything of substance (and sometimes even if he didn't) annoyed me.
Sure it was nice to see Cotto fight through adversity but that was a bit too much I thought.
You're right though that Steward was for Clottey from the beginning.
True post! I'm a huge Cotto fan and the commentating from Lampley was totally bias toward Cotto - which clearly highlighted that Steward was for Clottey...it is what it is..
1) Clottey wasn't hurt, just was off balance when the punch landed, you could tell he was pissed off that's why he got up and started slamming his gloves together and that... just knocked off balance. He has a good chin to be honest, he was hurt all through one of the rounds though.
2) Headbutt was an accident, can't just blame Clottey... simple clash of heads when both fighters stepped in, it could have very easily been Clottey who got cut if there heads were positioned right when moving in.
3) Don't know, he probably got heated up in the moment with the cut and wanting to put on a good show for his fans, he shouldn't have done it but he might have just snapped for a second.
4) Didn't see HBO commentary... :lol1:
5) I don't know how they had the scores so wide to Cotto, I had it 114-113 Cotto.
nly a idiot would think clottey was hurt.QUOTE=713832281;5488133]
i never said clottey was hurt, i jus said he went down.
your list did not look like it to me, they were all things pointing to Clottey being a cheat or something
sorry, maybe I misunderstood your points- I apologize
is all right, i jus thought this fight had
alot of controversal things in it,
but that judge that had 116-111
should be shot lol
Clottey felt the body. But was never really hurt.
Cotto is a great fighter and has POWER. Clottey got careless and had problems that he overcame with his shell guard.
I had it 6 rounds a piece with a win for Cotto because of the knockdown.
BS, was Clottey laying on the ground like he'd been shot. My knee, My knee, what a bitch. Then he gets tapped on the back of his head and cries like Oliver Mcall.
More bs, Cotto's corner should of stopped the fight after the sixth round,now its gonna take forever for that nasty cut to heal. Whomever let Cotto keep fighting is an idiot.
All in all Clottey beat the sh!t out of Cotto last night, good thing for Cotto boxing is scored by rounds not by the entire fight.
its not even your quote that bothers me but its everyones man. you guys are ****in cotto haters, cotto won more rounds but the wons clottey won were a lil more one sided than cottos and besides clottey like all fights ****in headbutts and cuts which may have ****ed up cottos perfomance, and the hit behind clotteys head, watch the replay you dumbasses (whoever said it was wrong) the whole fight including that part cotto was trying to corner clottey and clottey was grabbing cottos arm so he had the hit behind his head coming to him ok.... watch and done talk shit... please.... and clottey fell on the floor cuz he wanted to hold and cotto got away using boxing IQ, i thought cotto won because he caught clottey off balance in the 1st with a kd if not it woulda been a draw, and my have been diff if clottey had not headbutted with that said clottey shut up you cry baby god deng i hate your excuse having ass, at least cotto at one point said when he lost margarito was the better man that night.
how am i biased for cotto,
i thought he lost lol.
i dont think he desuerved the decision,
and i think it was ridiculas when he body droped clottey.
your list did not look like it to me, they were all things pointing to Clottey being a cheat or something
sorry, maybe I misunderstood your points- I apologize
I want to know if the canvas was wet or if Clottey's shoes had bad traction.. he seemed like he was ice skating on it all night...
That punch to the back of the head was BS, even the ref knew that Cotto fukked up