Promoters, Politics & Money = Business = Why fights are Made or not made.
Here is a recent short Video of Leonard Ellerbe educating a boxing journalist/writer about the business of what goes on behind the scenes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXa2rFTqu7g
im sure they begged for it yea fukin right
they did, and i remember when it was discussed and promptly shot down. More or less the cotto thing didint really begin until after he fought mosley and mayweather knocked out hatton. that hype has only been a year and a half, but back in 04/05, i seriously thought the fight would happen because cotto was one of the prime beltholders along with gatti and hatton. there is a reason why mayweather was basically gunning for gatti, it was because tszyu and hatton were tied up, and cottos team was unwilling.
At this point, with floyd holding no actual title, i really dont hold him to much of a standard, right now is just about legacy and perception, when he was the welterweight champ, i think i felt he should have continued after the hatton fight. the fact that he withdrew that title to let other welters take up the challange is a testament to where his mind probably was at the time. Now that hes back agaisnt marquez and is hearing it negatively from the media left and right, unlike alot of you, i sincerely feel he know he has to compete against the fan favs against him. Regardless, floyd only really spent a couple of years in the division and withdrew about a year and a half after he got in it, which is why for me personally, it wasnt that big of a deal. The idea that he NEVER challanged himself or that he NEVER took on good competition EVER, all you have to do is look at some of the post before the de la hoya fight, or the hatton fight and you get how consensus changes around here real quick.
why did he want to fight Cotto when Cotto was unknown and now that Cotto is known, why wont he fight him? is that what Floyd said he has wanted, for Cotto to grow?
Prioritie$..
And we all should know what Floyd's Prioritie$ are.
so negotiations did happen..so can we cut this floyd fears cotto bullshit..
there's no evidence that negotiations happened, for all we know ellerbe is talking out his ass.. which like almost always he is.
BULLF*CKINGSHIT.
Mayweather from day one has been full of excuses to why he doesn't want to fight Cotto..
Now they trying to change the tune and say it was his fault? :rofl:
FUNNY!
floyd will never fight cotto, mosley, williams, or clottey. even if he beats marquez and then goes on to beat pacquaio he will either retire for good or some other fighter who is naturally way smaller than him.
Fact: Floyd carefully picks who would be a suitable opponent for him. Cotto is not suitable for whatever reason.
Fact: Cotto will fight any fighter placed in front of him. Reputation does not matter. He wants the fights to happen and leaves his promoter to line them up.
Fact: Cotto does what is supposed to be done in this sport. He is good for the sport and has earned his fanbase the correct way. He'll fight anyone.
Fact: Floyd and his game playing is tantamount to thieving from the sport. If you want to be the best or call yourself the best, fight the rest. Floyd and his fans claim he is on some special pedistal and he can do whatever he likes. They claim he is megapopular, but that he cannot fight anyone else unless they are megapopular giant PPV attractions also. I'm some glad Duran, Holyfield, Tyson, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Ali, Arguello and other fighters that were on pedistals, never shared that same train of thought.
THAT... is my #1 POINT.
Fact: Floyd carefully picks who would be a suitable opponent for him. Cotto is not suitable for whatever reason.
Fact: Cotto will fight any fighter placed in front of him. Reputation does not matter. He wants the fights to happen and leaves his promoter to line them up.
Fact: Cotto does what is supposed to be done in this sport. He is good for the sport and has earned his fanbase the correct way. He'll fight anyone.
Fact: Floyd and his game playing is tantamount to thieving from the sport. If you want to be the best or call yourself the best, fight the rest. Floyd and his fans claim he is on some special pedistal and he can do whatever he likes. They claim he is megapopular, but that he cannot fight anyone else unless they are megapopular giant PPV attractions also. I'm some glad Duran, Holyfield, Tyson, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Ali, Arguello and other fighters that were on pedistals, never shared that same train of thought.
Those are opinions not facts~
Fact: Floyd carefully picks who would be a suitable opponent for him. Cotto is not suitable for whatever reason.
Fact: Cotto will fight any fighter placed in front of him. Reputation does not matter. He wants the fights to happen and leaves his promoter to line them up.
Fact: Cotto does what is supposed to be done in this sport. He is good for the sport and has earned his fanbase the correct way. He'll fight anyone.
Fact: Floyd and his game playing is tantamount to thieving from the sport. If you want to be the best or call yourself the best, fight the rest. Floyd and his fans claim he is on some special pedistal and he can do whatever he likes. They claim he is megapopular, but that he cannot fight anyone else unless they are megapopular giant PPV attractions also. I'm some glad Duran, Holyfield, Tyson, Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Ali, Arguello and other fighters that were on pedistals, never shared that same train of thought.
At the end of the day, when he was given his chance he("his people") didnt take it. His only notable W was against ssm. Then when he had the opportunity to catapult himself into megastardom, he and his ppl/camp blew it!
cotto was not offered the fight after mosley. ellerbe is talking about back in 05 at 140 when cotto was still green.
Once again u hit the cotto fans with facts and they respond with BS! "ellerbe is gay" "he contradicted himself" Blah, Blah, Blah!
At the end of the day, when he was given his chance he("his people") didnt take it. His only notable W was against ssm. Then when he had the opportunity to catapult himself into megastardom, he and his ppl/camp blew it!
So plz quit riding pbf's nuts about this and move on. As a fan u should be concerned about friday and the bout following. he does what you all think he was destined to do then this fight will happen.
16y ago
LEONARD ELLERBE: "We Begged for the Cotto Fight!" | BoxingScene Community