Floyd on Arum-Cotto-Clottey

I really appreciate this post... That is an interesting POV I never considered. Bob Arum throws Cotto in against one of his toughest welterweights, and if he loses it diminishes Cotto's star power. That is just revenge for Cotto publicly questioning both Arum/Top Rank and Margarito. Now, he can leave Top Rank if he wants to, but he also loses his position at the upper echelon of the sport. Floyd is a smart dude, and I'm glad he shared that little bit of insight.

floyd just wishes he was man enough to fight someone like clottey. if he has to look up to a guy he aint fighting. Its apples & oranges due to the size. I always say this. Why should Cotto have any worry about fighting Clottey when theyre both the same size? None of the WW's should worry at all about fighting eachother because theyre all full blown WW's who are basically in there 1st or very natural division. Its different with Floyd. He's coming into the ring at 147 pounds and is in his 4th division. Thats the difference. You think Floyd would worry about fighting anyone at 130, 135, or even 140? Why should you fear guys your own size. People start worry about things when they know the guy has a huge size advantage on them. Thats when it changes. You guys keep trying to make it sound like Floyd is the same exact thing as these guys but he's not and you know it. All those guys are like 180 or more outside the ring and come into the ring at 160-170 pounds while Floyd is 150 outside the ring and 147 in it. That changes everything and if you think it doesnt then youre crazy. You think Floyd is worried about any of those guys P4P? They have nothing for him but he knows that its not a P4P fight. Its a WW fight against huge guys that he may have to pot shot to beat unless he finds a way to put on 10 pounds after the weigh-in

Maybe he does maybe he does not, but saying he will not (an absolute negative) is not different then saying he will (absolute positive). You don't know that, especially considering Floyd's mug is on TV like every 12 minutes now (that is not a small thing for someone that wants to be well known). Hatton is not a PPV star in the US, how many people knew Hatton in the US before the Mayweather fight that were not boxing fans, Floyd was the A side in that fight (to American's, to people from England Hatton is the A side) it is not as cut and dry as you are making it out but Floyd was the draw to the US part of the audience. I would guess it will do over 800k, because JMM is just aswell known as Hatton is in the US, actually it will probably do more US buys becuase of Mexican-Americans.l I have laid out why I think the event will sell, now please tell me why it will fail~. damn, very good post. green k givin

Can you please point out where I said Floyd is not well known? Or ever indicated anything close? I'm not argueing mayweather has a name, but if he's going to sit there and say he did 1 million ALONE vs. hatton im sorry but that is ludacrous. All im pointing out is that if that is his logic, he should do 1 million vs. marquez alone, yes or no? Maybe he does maybe he does not, but saying he will not (an absolute negative) is not different then saying he will (absolute positive). You don't know that, especially considering Floyd's mug is on TV like every 12 minutes now (that is not a small thing for someone that wants to be well known). Hatton is not a PPV star in the US, how many people knew Hatton in the US before the Mayweather fight that were not boxing fans, Floyd was the A side in that fight (to American's, to people from England Hatton is the A side) it is not as cut and dry as you are making it out but Floyd was the draw to the US part of the audience. I would guess it will do over 800k, because JMM is just aswell known as Hatton is in the US, actually it will probably do more US buys becuase of Mexican-Americans.l I have laid out why I think the event will sell, now please tell me why it will fail~.

It is laughable that you do not think that Floyd is well known. Let me ask you something how many times a day do you see the Floyd Mayweather AT&T commercial (it is everywhere, and the general public knows little of boxing, so if you ask people to name 1 boxer from today in the US people will say Mayweather most likely because of that commercial). If you want proof, I have talked more about boxing to know nothings (about boxing) then I have since Tyson-Lewis, I thought it was because he was comming back but that made little sence (since I know people don't follow boxing that close) the commercial combined with the comeback though seems to have sparked a lot of interest in him. This is in Detroit though and Mayweather is pretty well known in these parts~. Can you please point out where I said Floyd is not well known? Or ever indicated anything close? I'm not argueing mayweather has a name, but if he's going to sit there and say he did 1 million ALONE vs. hatton im sorry but that is ludacrous. All im pointing out is that if that is his logic, he should do 1 million vs. marquez alone, yes or no?

I stopped watching after he said he did 1 million buys alone vs. hatton since hatton had never been on ppv. I guess this means you'll do more than 1 million vs. marquez floyd since marquez HAS been on ppv once before. Laughable. It is laughable that you do not think that Floyd is well known. Let me ask you something how many times a day do you see the Floyd Mayweather AT&T commercial (it is everywhere, and the general public knows little of boxing, so if you ask people to name 1 boxer from today in the US people will say Mayweather most likely because of that commercial). If you want proof, I have talked more about boxing to know nothings (about boxing) then I have since Tyson-Lewis, I thought it was because he was comming back but that made little sence (since I know people don't follow boxing that close) the commercial combined with the comeback though seems to have sparked a lot of interest in him. This is in Detroit though and Mayweather is pretty well known in these parts~.

I stopped watching after he said he did 1 million buys alone vs. hatton since hatton had never been on ppv. I guess this means you'll do more than 1 million vs. marquez floyd since marquez HAS been on ppv once before. Laughable.

he made some good points. i agree with what he said about UFC and Arum

if u think jmm vs fraud is the best possible fight that can be made than ur delousional. floyd and most idiots here are calling it a tune up without respect for a great fighter. and floyd said it himself, jmm and pac are too small. yov fail!!! who wins, Pac vs Floyd

Wtf has this gotta do with what the thread starter wrote? And for youR 'welterweights fighting welterweights' bullshit that you say, if it were in your hands we'd never had seen Hagler-Hearns, Leonard-Hagler, Duran-Leonard, and countless other fights. Some of the greatest fights ever have been between guys in 2 different weight classes. I meant I don't care what Mr boat buyer says about anything other than a fight against 1 of the top 2 WW's. And I completely agree wit the 2nd part of your post homey. Thing is, those weren't catchweight fights. They were legitimate fights where guys moved all the way up into a higher division to face a champion, not this in between catchweight bullshit.

That logic makes no sense since Cotto called out Clottey. No one threw Cotto in against Clottey, no one forced a gun to Cottos head. Cotto said he wanted Clottey. floyd just wishes he was man enough to fight someone like clottey. if he has to look up to a guy he aint fighting.

I believe it was after he knocked out jennings. He was calling a bunch of the top names out like Clottey and so on. Cotto doesn't duck no one.

i never heard Cotto calling anyone out...can you point me to an actual video or interview when he really did that?

Check this interview with Floyd...on 6.55 makes a good point on the Bob Arum - Cotto relationship and on why hematched him with Clottey. Thoughts? That logic makes no sense since Cotto called out Clottey. No one threw Cotto in against Clottey, no one forced a gun to Cottos head. Cotto said he wanted Clottey.

Who the **** said i was talking about the Marquez fight? I'm talking about a potential Pacquaio fight, plus Marquez ent no walkover! you said great fights were made in different weight classes but for floyd the greatest fight for him will be vs mosley. marquez is a 35 year old career featherweight. floyd is a ww who refuses to go down to jww. floyd picked jmm for obvious reason's. to have all the advantages and have a name on his terrible resume.

if u think jmm vs fraud is the best possible fight that can be made than ur delousional. floyd and most idiots here are calling it a tune up without respect for a great fighter. and floyd said it himself, jmm and pac are too small. yov fail!!! man did you read what i wrote or what :lame:

yea but fraud wont give us a great fight vs cotto or mosley cuz he's a coward. leonard hagler duran and hearns didnt pick guys in different class cuz of the advantages they would have. they picked them cuz it was the best possible fights that can be made for the fans. you fail!!! Who the **** said i was talking about the Marquez fight? I'm talking about a potential Pacquaio fight, plus Marquez ent no walkover!

well dont you see that JMM vs Floyd is the best build up for a possible Pac vs Floyd fight, which as you said is the best possible fight that can be made for the fans? anyway another OT! I was expecting this cause haters just hate. if u think jmm vs fraud is the best possible fight that can be made than ur delousional. floyd and most idiots here are calling it a tune up without respect for a great fighter. and floyd said it himself, jmm and pac are too small. yov fail!!!

yea but fraud wont give us a great fight vs cotto or mosley cuz he's a coward. leonard hagler duran and hearns didnt pick guys in different class cuz of the advantages they would have. they picked them cuz it was the best possible fights that can be made for the fans. you fail!!! well dont you see that JMM vs Floyd is the best build up for a possible Pac vs Floyd fight, which as you said is the best possible fight that can be made for the fans? anyway another OT! I was expecting this cause haters just hate.

Wtf has this gotta do with what the thread starter wrote? And for youR 'welterweights fighting welterweights' bullshit that you say, if it were in your hands we'd never had seen Hagler-Hearns, Leonard-Hagler, Duran-Leonard, and countless other fights. Some of the greatest fights ever have been between guys in 2 different weight classes. yea but fraud wont give us a great fight vs cotto or mosley cuz he's a coward. leonard hagler duran and hearns didnt pick guys in different class cuz of the advantages they would have. they picked them cuz it was the best possible fights that can be made for the fans. you fail!!!