Mayweather's next fight is against Marquez NOT Pacquiao. Yet everyone is already clamoring about Pac - Mayweather.
It's like people have assumed Marquez has already lost, or no one knows the guy exists.
Everytime we see news on Boxingscene it's about the Pac Mayweather fight, which isn't even supposed to be on our minds yet, because Mayweather still hasn't beat Marquez.
and your boy willingly took two knees like a coward in front of his wife and kid. Shameful act.
Holy shit, you're getting worse. I didn't think it was possible.
And lay the **** off Mangler.
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I'm picking JMM to pull the upset on Mayweather and I do agree with the thread, Marquez is being slept on big time. The guy's comp is leaps and bounds over who Floyd fought before he retired.
FLoyd is a natural WW, He has been fighting there since 2005. JMM is barely a LW.
If You Max weight fight night was 41 like you said, getting to 44 is dangerous for yourself, becaue your adding weight that was not there Highspeed.
This is a total mismatch and only Floyd huggers doesnt see it like it, just to give Floyd Credit for the win, wich he wont get anyways!!!!!!!!
How are we viewing this because Floyd comes in at under 150. How many "Natural WW" do that? I know a bunch of JrWW that come in at the same weight as Floyd and so do some LW fighters who blow up in weight.
Fighting in a divsion and actually being compared to others in that division based on size/weight is a different matter. Floyd isn't Cotto; Floyd isn't Shane; Floyd isn't Clottey and the others who blow up in weight who are big WW.
If you want to call him a WW because he is a legit 147 pounder come fight-night...I'm with you on that. But then what are the others below his division that are not 135 and 140 pounders come fight-night in their divisions?
And what does that make Shane, Cotto, Clottey, and the rest that blow up in weight?
What Floyd is now, I don't know...but he was an under 150 fighter come fight-night when he was active.
For increasing weight it depends on the fighter; it depends on his frame. JMM doesn't look like he has a small frame, as noted with his chest measurements.
Can you decline in speed and maybe even stamina as you climb up in weight? Yes, but again, it depends on the fighter. Somehow Pac has managed to climb up in weight and improved.
Floyd on the other hand looked better at 130-140.
Freddie Roach even noted that JMM looked stronger and seemed to punch harder when he moved up in weight. However, I would say JMM may have slowed down a bit either because of weight gain or age but I'm not positive if he has. His timing was always key for him and not so much speed.
Someone like JMM can concentrate on putting size/weight on their lower half because that is where it won't hurt him because of his style. If anything, years of keeping on a diet to make the lower weight class made his legs less massive which happens.
And his upper body even is big enough to handle extra weight. One thing he will have to do is do it slowly to keep an eye on how his stamina is with the increased weight.
If he is 141 at starting point...you increase a 1/2 to 1 pound a week and you should be fine to see where you are.
sorry guys, but jmm can't win this fight.
I honor his bravery and courage and all that good stuff, but this is a losing battle. atleast he can enjoy the $6 million.
I think there are a lot of people overshawdowing JMM (Myself included) but I think PBF will not oversee him and will definately be doing his research on previous fights and his style. If PBF comes back and looses this fight it will mess him up big time so he will definately be ready for this fight and not looking too far ahead of his game. Well I hope he isnt anyway
Mayweather's next fight is against Marquez NOT Pacquiao. Yet everyone is already clamoring about Pac - Mayweather.
It's like people have assumed Marquez has already lost, or no one knows the guy exists.
Everytime we see news on Boxingscene it's about the Pac Mayweather fight, which isn't even supposed to be on our minds yet, because Mayweather still hasn't beat Marquez.
Yeah its dumb, I think Marquez has a good chance to win. Maywather with the layoff and Marquez still one of the best fighters out there and has some power in his combinations.
Mayweather's next fight is against Marquez NOT Pacquiao. Yet everyone is already clamoring about Pac - Mayweather.
It's like people have assumed Marquez has already lost, or no one knows the guy exists.
Everytime we see news on Boxingscene it's about the Pac Mayweather fight, which isn't even supposed to be on our minds yet, because Mayweather still hasn't beat Marquez.
true....but that's the way the world works.....media ad fans are always looking forward to the "next big event or thing."
as long as the fighters stay focused on what lies ahead is what really matters. every time i have heard floyd during recent interviews, he has already stated, "i'm not chasing anyone, i'm fighting marquez next."
everyone else may be looking ahead, but i don't think floyd is. if he does, that's when shit happens.....marquez is a good fighter, whether or not the world wants to give him credit, or even a chance, or not.
Nah, you're quite wrong here. Mangler has quite a few opinions, you're post is entirely innacurate. I know this because I actually disagree with a few of them. I really don't see how these personal attacks contribute to a boxing discussion anyway.
Pay him no mind Silk. Dude is a fukkin fool. Enjoy it, but don't try and make sense of it homey.
You never actually have an opinion do you. You just see what the census is saying and go along those lines. This is a forum, people do have different opinions. Or maybe you are literally a sheep
Nah, you're quite wrong here. Mangler has quite a few opinions, you're post is entirely innacurate. I know this because I actually disagree with a few of them. I really don't see how these personal attacks contribute to a boxing discussion anyway.
You never actually have an opinion do you. You just see what the census is saying and go along those lines. This is a forum, people do have different opinions. Or maybe you are literally a sheep
This is what I'm talkin about. You pull this stupid shit outta your ass and spam the board wit it cuz you got no logic to base a real argument on. I don't make threads, I just post. And when the same fukkin threads get made, I post the same response. I understand you're upset cuz I don't worship Mr boat buyer, but get off my nutsac fool.
JMM is too small, he is eating damn tacos and Tamales to get bigger and build muscle, because he dont even wlak around 144.
This is a total mismatch!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not a total mismatch. People are acting like Floyd is Clottey now who weighs 170 for a WW. Floyd, when active, was showing up under 150. Pac was 147 when he fought Diaz so if JMM was going to get another fight with him even at LW, he would be facing someone the same weight as Floyd.
And Floyd fought Castillo who was that size as well and of course Diego was heavier than him...as well as others.
JMM was listed at around 141 by fight-time with one of his fights from what some posted up. That's not to far off at all.
What Floyd has proved however that JMM hasn't yet is that Floyd could deal with the JrWW.
Hmm, I agree that Marquez is rather overshadowed. Unlike a lot of people, I'm expecting a damn good fight out of this, and hopefully an all out war. Marquez's biggest advantage is that he knows what's at stake here as opposed to Mayweather, whom I believe is seeing this as a tune up fight. Mayweather is coming out of retirement, and a little ring rust isn't out of the question entirely. I'm expecting Marquez to do very well in the first part of the fight, and then Floyd catching up with him later on. Probably an SD in Floyd's way. This is going to be a message to Floyd that he probably thinks a little more of himself than he deserves. IMO he still wins, but not by any comfortable margin whatsoever.
You are so plain and basic, I swear. All you do is say “ Mr Boat Buyer” “I hope JMM beats PBF but he won’t, damn JMM got balls” “WW should fight WW” “Williams can’t make WW anymore more” and so on. You never actually have a real opinion on a situation but you usually follow the herd.
Actually think for yourself once without being swayed by the majority
The herd? Who's lead am I followin? When cats make the same threads over n over, I post the same opinion. You're a joke son. I got no problem witchu cuz I get a kick outta your stupidity. I just don't get your motivation. How fukkin old are you?
I luv JMM, but the writin is on the wall. He's gonna lose to Mr boat buyer. And I don't even care about a Pac-Mr boat buyer fight.
Well we think so. But we don't know that yet. Remember Tyson - Douglas? Or Tyson - Holyfield?
Marquez is so smart in the ring that he has a good chance of upsetting almost anyone in the ring...Not saying that it will happen though. Those upsets are rare. But just don't count someone as smart as Marquez out just yet. Because you'll never know what someone that smart in the ring is capable of thinking up.
It's really dangerous actually. I hope Floyd can keep his focus. He has been up until now to be fair but there are signs he is losing composure on the whole Manny issue
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