Kellerman said that "all margarito wins are suspicious, before cintron, which is a shame. he use the same wraps in that plastic bag that was found before mosley fight" Poor Margarito nobody beleive he won a fight legally.
no wonder all boxing experts beleive cotto is still undefeted.
I hope he never fight again, bringing disgrace to the sport.
He has never cheated. He, or atleast the cunt that wrapped his hands, ATTEMPTED to cheat against Mosley but was caught.
And looking at how his opponents ate his punches? Getting punched in the face does not feel fookin good mate. You should try it out one time, like me old lad did in a local boxing gym and never went back again.
So, it's not naive. Cotto fanboys are because they crucify Margarito without giving two shits about the FACTS.
Not a Cotto fanboy and I've been punched in the face many times bro. Nobody was a bigger fan of Marg's than me after the Cotto fight. Thought he was an old-school, blood-and-guts type who could beat a more talented opponent on sheer will alone. Then he got caught and now I see him for what he really is. A dirtbag. Why you want to go to the mat for a guy like that is beyond me. He got caught trying to walk into a ring with plaster on his hands. Any benefit of the doubt goes out the window after that.
Tell me which fight Margarito ever cheated in? None whatsoever. If you can't distinguish attempting to cheat and proven to have cheated then you need to get your head checked. Kellerman and Cotto's fans need to stop acting like their suspicion is a fact that came down from heaven.
He is still Cotto's daddy. And oh yeah, Mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley-mosley will be the comeback everytime someone says Tony is still his daddy.
You're right. Nobody knows for sure if he cheated before the Mosley fight, but, for fvcks sake, don't you kind of have to assume he did? Especially when you look at how the Cotto fight went and you look at the way Cintron reacted to his punches. Seems naive to take that point-of-view.
Paul Williams schooled him W T F did you even watch the fight? i hate Margarito as well.. but that was a close fight..
But these are facts..
Margo>Cintron wraps or no wraps
Margarito was hitting Cotto all night and taking bombs to his face all night to, Complete opposite of the Shane/Margo fight. Shane wasn't getting hit at all really and he hit Margo to the BODY and hard as well as the head. Cotto was tiring from backing off and fending of Margo all night, it was a terrible fight by him. I personally think with Paris or none Margarito beats Cotto if Cotto uses that gameplan 10 x out of 10.
Saying Margo>Cintron wraps or no wraps is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Getting hit with those things is an absolute game-changer and all you guys who want to minimize the effect it must have on the other fighter either aren't thinking clearly or are blinded by man-love for Marg.
I absolutely loved the guy after the Cotto fight. He seemed like an old-school, blood-and-guts type warrior. Now, I just think the guy is a scumbag plain and simple.
Paul Williams schooled him W T F did you even watch the fight? i hate Margarito as well.. but that was a close fight..
But these are facts..
Margo>Cintron wraps or no wraps
Margarito was hitting Cotto all night and taking bombs to his face all night to, Complete opposite of the Shane/Margo fight. Shane wasn't getting hit at all really and he hit Margo to the BODY and hard as well as the head. Cotto was tiring from backing off and fending of Margo all night, it was a terrible fight by him. I personally think with Paris or none Margarito beats Cotto if Cotto uses that gameplan 10 x out of 10.
That was a tough fight with the punisher, and had Margarito been a stronger starter, and started off the way he finished towards the later rounds; I think he wins that fight on razor thin decision. I think it's only natural to accuse him of wrong doing, even if there is no prove that he actually cheated. I think it's in the back of ever bodies minds that he could have cheated, but unless proven, you have to give him credit for those wins. Besides that's along time to go without someone picking up on his wraps, if indeed he was cheating up to the Mosely fight. I just don't buy that he cheated all those fights, not when those wraps are inspected by a member of the boxing commission and a member of the other sides team. I mean god damn someone besides Mosley trainer would have pick up on it. I mean other wise what the hell is the point of having someone there to inspect the wraps in the first place?
As for Cintron: Anyone who seen those fights knows Margarito Dominated both those fights. He didn't need no damn loaded wraps -- not with all the combinations that he was lighten him up with (in both fights).
As for Miguel Cotto: He fought a perfect fight, and it still wasn't good enough. He threw his best at Margarito, and just ran out of gas....plain and simple. In the later rounds Margarito did exactly what Cotto did to him in the beginning, he beat the hell out of him. Cotto just couldn't take the pressure cooker that Margarito was hammering him with in the later rounds.
As for the Mosely fight: He just got beat by a better fighter that night. Shane had everything working for him that night, slipping in and out and hitting him with all kinds of different combinations high and low. Sugar Shane was awesome! That's the best I've seen him look in awhile. Plus he was able to stay strong all through the fight, never tiring. Where Cotto failed he succeed.
Then why your boy Floyd turned down 8 mill to fight him if it was that easy?
Floyd's family has been around boxing for a long time & Floyd could probably smell the cheater on that overrated Mexican hype job Margarito. Floyd went on to fight the linear WW champ Baldomir. Who was true champion & leaves behind a much better legacy than Margarito.
Margarito was mediocre even with plaster wraps. Any good fighter would have still schooled him, just like Paul Williams did. Just because he cheated doesn't mean losing to him is OK all of a sudden.
AHAHAHHA...Yeah mediocre with wraps or not :gay: that's why he beat Martinez,Clottey,Cintron,Cotto and had a close fight with P-Will.
very true.
however given the fact that margarito won in a way where his cheating (or potential cheating in the cotto fight) was used in whole part to win the fight.
Cotto fought a picture perfect fight (damn near) for the first 7 rounds of the fight. i think i had him winning all but 2 of the rounds at that point and thats when margarito began chipping away at cotto...just walking forward and swinging...by the 9th 10th round you can see how much of a toll it took on cotto.
if he did use those illegal wraps in the cotto fight it very well could have been what got him the win.
and like williams, cotto was schooling margarito for the first half of the fight...he was up big on point and was just tagging margarito and showing superior boxing ability...
I used to admire Margarito but I was even turning against him even before we discovered his plaster of paris. The main reason I don't like him is that he tried to turn into a celebrity after beating Cotto. I hate cheating too, but that's not the only reason why I abandoned Margarito. He went on record and said he had no score to settle with Paul Williams. He also said that he'd be glad to fight Manny Pacquiao. To me that's not the mentality of a true fighter at all. He took half the payday to get his ass beat by an older fighter because he thought he was on the downslide of his career and it backfired on his punk ass. All that said, I do think he was the better fighter than Cotto that night and beat him fair and square. Cotto just didn't fight the right fight at all. And to me, he wasn't schooling Margarito even in the early rounds he was winning. I saw things like Cotto getting hit with multiple uppercuts in a row and that's something that elite fighters don't allow to happen. Cotto also lost the second round too. So the argument that Margarito got better because the plaster took time to harden cancels out right there. Shane Mosley and Paul Williams showed how to beat Margarito and Cotto just didn't execute the right game plan.
wraps or not a good boxer beats margo..if margo had wraps in the mosley fight it wouldve made no differance
Yeah cause he wasn't landing shots. Mosley was completely on that night. Shane looked excellent.
Margarito was mediocre even with plaster wraps. Any good fighter would have still schooled him, just like Paul Williams did. Just because he cheated doesn't mean losing to him is OK all of a sudden.
very true.
however given the fact that margarito won in a way where his cheating (or potential cheating in the cotto fight) was used in whole part to win the fight.
Cotto fought a picture perfect fight (damn near) for the first 7 rounds of the fight. i think i had him winning all but 2 of the rounds at that point and thats when margarito began chipping away at cotto...just walking forward and swinging...by the 9th 10th round you can see how much of a toll it took on cotto.
if he did use those illegal wraps in the cotto fight it very well could have been what got him the win.
and like williams, cotto was schooling margarito for the first half of the fight...he was up big on point and was just tagging margarito and showing superior boxing ability...
Margarito was mediocre even with plaster wraps. Any good fighter would have still schooled him, just like Paul Williams did. Just because he cheated doesn't mean losing to him is OK all of a sudden.
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