Between Paul Williams and Miguel Cotto as of May 26th 2009. To me they are both world class fighters, but I find it puzzling that people could rate Cotto higher than Williams seeing as Cotto just lost to a worldclass fighter and is yet to bounce back, while Williams has been on a tear for a while now. Vote and discuss, but please lets not get into a tit for tat childish flame war here.
Co-sign if Cotto mops the floor with Clottey like Williams did to Winky then he should be rated a little higher.
I would have to respectfully disagree. Clottey's wins over Zab and Chico are decent but they don't match up to Winky's wins over Mosley twice, Quartey, Trinidad, the disputable draw to Jermaine Taylor, and a loss to B-Hop of where he didn't disgrace himself. I am not a fan of Winky because of his defensive style and I'm saying all these good things about him. Ha Ha Ha Ha. But hey, respect is due where it's due, and the Winkster's resume is nothing to sneeze at. And Clottey is coming off a long layoff too even if it's not as long as the layoff that Winky went through.
It's real simple,while Cotto isnt the best in his division,The Punisher is the best in Cotto's division and at 154 and 160,so that pretty much speaks for itself!!
I can buy Williams being higher than Cotto right now.
If Cotto beats Clottey impressively, I might have to put Cotto back up over him, but it could go either way.
Co-sign if Cotto mops the floor with Clottey like Williams did to Winky then he should be rated a little higher.
I can buy Williams being higher than Cotto right now.
If Cotto beats Clottey impressively, I might have to put Cotto back up over him, but it could go either way.
Complete Nonsense, Styles makes fight, Who is a overall better Fight Mosley or Winky?
If you think Cotto-Mosley could of gne either way, you dont know shit about scoring a fight!!!!!!!!!!!
Williams resume
Margarito
Winky
Quintana x2
Phillips
Mitchell
Cottos resume
Molsey
QUintana
Judah
Malignaggi
Torres
Corley
Bailley
Maussa
Ndou
Can yoy see the difference now??
Bazan
ABdullaev
Yes I think Wright is an overall better fighter than Mosley you think Mosley could bang with Taylor and beat him and have a close fight with Hopkins. And in all honesty the fight with Cotto and Mosley was damn close and I had it a draw, and almost everyone acknowledges that it was a close fight.
I would have to go with P-Dub. He gutted it out against Margarito and Cotto was beaten into submission by Antonio plaster or no plaster. Williams also beat Winky like an abused housewife while I had Mosley beating Cotto due to the superiority in power punches and aggressiveness at the end of their fight. The only way this favors Cotto is their respective rivalries with Quintana. And it's a weak case for Cotto because Williams was competitive in their first fight and came back and did what a champion is supposed to do like Joe Louis did with Max Schmelling.
Pwill ain't on the p4p right now is he? I gotta look.
He certainly deserves to be on the list, I think the Ring left him in and added Cotto, who exited the list after losing to Margarito, and somehow made it back after Jennings. :pat:.
Pwill by a spot or 3. His loss to quintana was a joke and it was avenged with a vengence.
Cotto's loss to margs hurts but the loss is tainted. Based in recent opposition I give to cotto but I would reconsider based on the fight with clottey. A very solid, avoided beltholder in a deep division.
Ia 37 year old winky with a 2 year off ? Really? LMAO
Mosley is a better fighter than anyone in Williams resume, not to mention that resume is not base on 1 fighter only
Cottos resume shits on Williams resume easy!!!!!!!!!!!
Winky is a better fighter than Shane Mosley. Mosley is the only top fighter Cotto beat, and that fight could have gone either way. Lets not forget Winky completely undressed Mosley.
you and i both know it is guna be a hell of a tough night for cotto,i really cant see him beating clottey easily at all
Everyone thought Williams vs Wright would be very close and down to the wire seeing as Winky would be the first naturally bigger man Williams ever faced. I even thought Winky would dominate him and make him look stupid, it turned out being the other way around. I knew it would be a tough fight, but Williams prooved otherwise, and if Cotto does the same then I will rate him higher.
If he outclasses him and beats him easily then yes.
you and i both know it is guna be a hell of a tough night for cotto,i really cant see him beating clottey easily at all
British fan, my buddy what's up? ready for that bet?
Well i see where you are coming from, but fighting better opponents in the past means nothing. I think Paul is just better P4P than Cotto because of what they have done lately.
Just how Pacquiao is better P4P than Mayweather right now because of what he has done lately. It doesn't exactly mean they are better.
ye thats a fair shout,like i said before im being a bit biased as im a huge fan of cotto.really looking forward to the clottey fight im confident cotto will do it but will be a very tough fight for him,i give the guy credit for fighting him as nobody else seems that interested in clottey
i agree thats the one name that sticks out after margarito.not exactly prime winky though and maybe my vote is just biased cuz im a big fan of cotto.if he beats clottey would he jump ahead of pwill in ur opinion?
If he outclasses him and beats him easily then yes.
Winky Wright > Anybody Cotto has faced, beaten or even lost to.
i agree thats the one name that sticks out after margarito.not exactly prime winky though and maybe my vote is just biased cuz im a big fan of cotto.if he beats clottey would he jump ahead of pwill in ur opinion?
End of f#^king thread.
Paul Williams has avenged all of his losses and beat the guy who KO'd Cotto. There is no argument whatsoever for Cotto and he shouldnt even be in the top ten.
Who are the 10 better p4p fighters than?
Paul Williams spanked Cotto's daddy, he got a RJ-Griffin II-style revenge against his lone loss Quintana, he overwhelmed Winky Wright for 12 rounds, he stopped Phillips who hasn't been stopped since 1988 before that stoppage, and he took care of his stay busy fight against Kolie, in 1 round.
While Cotto stopped Alfonso Gomez in 5(a tune-up), Quit against Margarito, and stopped a confidence builder, Michael Jennings in 5(a confidence builder guys).
Sad to see the poll so close.
I voted Williams, but with an impressive win over Clottey Cotto could jump back ahead. They're both very close to each other in my opinion.