Floyd,top 10 or top 20 ATG?

dumars knows what he's doin...the chauncey for AI trade was nothing more than a salary dump which gives you guys plenty of flexibility with the cap...it wont stay bad for long Oh yea I have faith in Joe and it was a salary dump, I think he felt we would not get by the Cav or the Celtics as we are built currently (he could not know KG would go down like that). It just pains me to see the team we kept down the last couple years get to the Eastern Conference Finals without acutally getting through us. Our situation is good going forward though, we have tons of space and a bunch of quality pieces, we just need that center piece. Also not many teams will be looking to spend this offseason (either because of the economy or to wait for the FA bonanza next year). I was actually happy we got the 8th seed for the better draft pick, Joe seems to do good with the mid round picks like 15.

if floyd beats jmm,pacman,cotto and mosley..hes top 10 imo add Williams and i agree with you JMM , Pac, Cotto, Mosley get him definite top 20 status

chauncy is not a problem. we have kobe on him. it's all the layups denver is getting because of our bigs. btw......take this denver team and replace dahntay , kenyon and nene with rip , tayshaun and rasheed the last few years. :scared: scary.......your boys would have won 3-4 'ships. I try to avoid thinking about that, we had our time to shine though. Would have been a sick rivalry with Melo and Bron though.

you telling me marc gasol wouldn't do better than drew right now? when denver goes small , we need to put powell in there. pick and roll with kobe. bynum is trying too damn hard on O and not playing d. he needs to post up and if he doesn't have a layup or dunk , throw it back out. he needs to realize he is only there for rebounding and blocking shots. if he wants to score , get a damn offensive rebound and put it back in!!!!!!!!! andrew bynum and luke walton for marc gasol. make it happen mitch! I am sorry that my Pistons threw away their season (although Cleveland would have merced us, but we always do great against Orlando), and gave Denver Billups. Chauncey always seems to light up the Lakers.

For me to be above 25 you bascially need to have some kind of claim on being the greatest ever or atleast can have some kind of arguement made for them and it not be complete fantasy.

inside 30. but he has yet to accomplish more i guess

Yeap thats about right. Y say Anything from 45-55 is acceptable. Anythyng lower is hating and anything higher is nuthuggery!!!!!!!!!!!! I will tell you what I told you before about this after the top tier of guys top 25 or so and maybe a transitional 5 or so that are real boaderline. After that you come a 2nd tier really and that is where Floyd falls in, it all depends on what you look at but 30 to about 70-80 can really be in any order and not be wrong.

did you realize that the 2 guys that actually posted their list had roy jones #1 and #3 all-time? i love roy but............... That is probably the shittiest top 50 I have ever seen, I like Oscar but top 40 all time~. The Ring would do a much better job (and we both know how I feel about their lists as well, I guess if you compared the ring to this your point holds more water~)

not really looking for a list. i just want someone who's posting a number to show me how he came to the conclusion of the number they gave floyd. if they can say he's top 50 , they should be able to name the top 50 guys in their rankings. if not......THEY'RE TALKING OUT OF THEIR ASSSSSSSSSESSSSS. I say he is top 50 at number 49 based on that list.

Top 30-40 but if he wins his next 3 fights hes 15-20ish

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/greatest/featureVideo?page=greatest4150 I think this is a pretty decent list. Its not perfect but solid. I think it was pre-Pac too.

somewhere in the 45-50 range

Right now? 30-40 If he defeats: Marquez, Pacquiao and Mosley/Cotto(one of those or both). 10-20 And if he defeats: Marquez, Pacquiao, Mosley/Cotto(one of those or both) and Paul Willians 5-10 He jumps up how many spots for beating Paul Williams?

How do you rate Money right now? Nope none of the above!!!

exactly. Mangler has me quoted in his sig for this reason. Jmm being dragged up and above lightweight means this fight is no p4p fight. Jmm is being dragged up and away from his strength. Jmm will be fighting as a welterweight. I can see quite a few welterweights beating him due to jmm being out of his element. This is where so many fail. They cannot see the hypocrisy in what this fight is being billed as, and what it truly represents. co-sign!!!

prolly 287 list your top 290

Right now? 30-40 If he defeats: Marquez, Pacquiao and Mosley/Cotto(one of those or both). 10-20 And if he defeats: Marquez, Pacquiao, Mosley/Cotto(one of those or both) and Paul Willians 5-10

You do realise that P4P IS MEANINGLESS IN ACTUAL REALITY, RIGHT? How can the hypothetical match up of "if Floyd was the same size as JMM and Ping Ping, who would win" mean anything when HE'S CLEARLY BIGGER THAN THEM AND ALWAYS WILL BE NO MATTER HOW MUCH WEIGHT THEY PUT ON. :rolleyes: Exactly. Mangler has me quoted in his sig for this reason. JMM being dragged up and above lightweight means this fight is no P4P fight. JMM is being dragged up and away from his strength. JMM will be fighting as a Welterweight. I can see quite a few welterweights beating him due to JMM being out of his element. This is where so many fail. They cannot see the hypocrisy in what this fight is being billed as, and what it truly represents.

mayweather is only in mine if he beats jmm pac mosley cotto

lol at the tread starter, floyd doesnt come withen shooting range of the top 20