...Marquez' last fight was at Lightweight and he's only had one other fight at the weight. And he's actually a small Lightweight. A year and a half ago he was fighting at Featherweight.
So the Marquez - Mayweather fight is gonna take place at 144 instead of the rumored 147. I don't care what anyone says, that shit is still not fair. We're talking about a career Featherweight fighting someone who's been above 140 for the last five years.
If Mayweather is always in such great shape and usually comes in well below the Welterweight limit, I don't see how he would have any problems making 140 again. The fight should have been contracted at 140lbs.
fair or not it's 144lbs and we can't do anything to change that.
at least the fight is going to happen.
If Marquez does not have a problem with that... then I think that's ok right?
cause its a win win for him really...........................
Exactly, he gets paid, and he has nothing to lose
And Mayweather is still a bitch. Right Strug.......come on, you know you wanna say it........
Ignorance is curse buddy , your first comment showed that you are overflowing with ignorance ,," I dont care about any weights " I can help you analyze your mental state , you dont care because YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WEIGHT.
Your second silly comment was this being a no risk fight, JMM is in the best form of his life KOing two elite fighters that have never been KOed many who think he beat Pac , and then to top off he is currently 2 P4P and then a little more icing Floyd is coming of a long layoff and you say its no risk ,,,,
What your really saying subconsciously is Floyd is great and you dont even know your saying it .
Ignorance? My friend I've read your posts about weight at certain times & fight night, etc. Sorry boxing goes by weigh in's the day before the fight. Until the rule changes your weight argument holds no water. I follow boxings divisions, you can follow what you like.
As far as anything else goes, you can try & pump this fight up all you like but odds don't lie. Floyd is now -450. He closed at -400 for Gatti. Any top 5 WW will have tighter odds than Marquez. If you don't believe that maybe you don't understand boxing? I'll let the odds speak for me on this one my man. If im wrong on fight night I'll gladly eat crow, & expect you to do the same when we see how much of a mismatch this fight was.
For the people saying Marquez agreed so we should all be fine, well why wouldn't ge agree when he's 36 & this is basically his retirement fight. Money talks & I'm happy he's getting paid. As far as the "its ok to fight Pac at 143 & not Marquez" argument: Pac has moved up & looked good doing so. Pac is younger/faster & a better style matchup. Marquez is older/slower & unproven. Quite simple.
LMAO.................fuking showoff........................:grouphug:
funny because he never responded when i said this
wow..lets talk about double standards RIGHT NOW...how OLD was JCC when Oscar fought him?
If Oscar was OLD when Floyd fought him in 07, then was the same Oscar still OLD when he fought Pac last year?
floyd had been callin oscar out for years get your story right
so is cotto doing the samething by want the fight at 147 with pacman.
When he want to fight mosley shane want to fight oscar then shane had a to go on vaction
what???
anyway, who's that bitch in your avy, she has nice tits.
because he has never fought anyone who has presented a real threat to his undefeated record. His record is padded my friend.
Oscar fought everyone!
Floyd fought oscar only when he seen that he was way past his prime and he could exploit that.
Now he's looking to exploit the size advantage he holds over jmm and manny pacquiao. Don't you see that. Your boy is a straight bitch. Why hasn't he fought mosley, margarito, williams or cotto??? Answer me that and don't say it's because the money wasn't there, cuz you will make yourself look like a fuckin idiot.
floyd had been callin oscar out for years get your story right
so is cotto doing the samething by want the fight at 147 with pacman.
When he want to fight mosley shane want to fight oscar then shane had a to go on vaction.
why did we never hear about arum offer floyd a contract to fight cotto at 147?
you guys always say he truned down a big payday vs tony but we never hear about arum offering him a contract to fight cotto.
Because he has never fought anyone who has presented a real threat to his undefeated record. His record is padded my friend.
Oscar fought everyone!
Floyd fought Oscar only when he seen that he was way past his prime and he could exploit that.
Now he's looking to exploit the size advantage he holds over JMM and Manny Pacquiao. Don't you see that. Your boy is a straight bitch. Why hasn't he fought Mosley, Margarito, Williams or Cotto??? Answer me that and don't say it's because the money wasn't there, cuz you will make yourself look like a fuckin idiot.
wow..lets talk about double standards RIGHT NOW...how OLD was JCC when Oscar fought him?
If Oscar was OLD when Floyd fought him in 07, then was the same Oscar still OLD when he fought Pac last year?
I was there the night JMM called out Floyd. As we walked from the cheap seats out of the stadium, JMM fans were talking a whole lot of noise. I don't remember any of them adding the necessity of weight limits then.
Floyd is the better fighter no matter what weight. Mayweather is coming back after a long lay off and is coming down enough.
The best part about this thread is the starter of it seems like he/she is getting into a tizzy beforehand about silly things like weight because he/she knows his/her fighter is doomed.
DOOMED.
Because he has never fought anyone who has presented a real threat to his undefeated record. His record is padded my friend.
Oscar fought everyone!
Floyd fought Oscar only when he seen that he was way past his prime and he could exploit that.
Now he's looking to exploit the size advantage he holds over JMM and Manny Pacquiao. Don't you see that. Your boy is a straight bitch. Why hasn't he fought Mosley, Margarito, Williams or Cotto??? Answer me that and don't say it's because the money wasn't there, cuz you will make yourself look like a fuckin idiot.
Best post of the night! Everyone give Perro gifts, green K and points. Thanks in advance.
when he says that he WANTS to fight those guys, then everyone claims that he is LYING and DUCKING them...its a never ending story.
Because he has never fought anyone who has presented a real threat to his undefeated record. His record is padded my friend.
Oscar fought everyone!
Floyd fought Oscar only when he seen that he was way past his prime and he could exploit that.
Now he's looking to exploit the size advantage he holds over JMM and Manny Pacquiao. Don't you see that. Your boy is a straight bitch. Why hasn't he fought Mosley, Margarito, Williams or Cotto??? Answer me that and don't say it's because the money wasn't there, cuz you will make yourself look like a fuckin idiot.
he shouldnt have to move down, but because hes fighting a lightweight, that changes things so he should have to. but then again he should have fought an actual welterweight like cotto or mosley.
when he says that he WANTS to fight those guys, then everyone claims that he is LYING and DUCKING them...its a never ending story.
So why doesn't Cotto go down to 140 to fight Pac?
Floyd hasn't fought at 140 in years, why the hell should he move down now?
he shouldnt have to move down, but because hes fighting a lightweight, that changes things so he should have to. but then again he should have fought an actual welterweight like cotto or mosley.
JMM shoulda told Mr boat buyer 140 or fukk off. But Dude is a fukkin beast, and he's gettin a fat payday, so he don't give a shit. War Dinamita! :boxing:
And he should fight Pacquiao at 140lbs stupid. Get with the program.
So why doesn't Cotto go down to 140 to fight Pac?
Floyd hasn't fought at 140 in years, why the hell should he move down now?
So let me get this straight Floyd Mayweather's last 4 opponents have been Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and now he's about to fight Juan Marquez and then Manny Pacquiao, and dimwitted fans are complaining?????
Wow!!
Some of you mofo's need to check yourself...
I remember when Roy Jones had to climb to heavyweight just to shut the haters up for a minute. That didn't last too long though. The haters didn't shut up until they finally got what they had been craving for years: Roy KTFO.
The same applies for Mayweather. Floyd could fight Kelly Pavlik tomorrow and the haters wouldn't be satisified unless Floyd himself was ko'd.
You fools are LAME. Just go ahead and form your fingers into an L shape and plant that hand right on your foreheads.
Its funny how the MAJORITY of the fans call this fight unfair because it is at 144, but they will NOT have a problem with Floyd fighting Manny pretty much at the same weight.
JMM THE MAN WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO FIGHT IN THE FIGHT HAS NOT ONCE CALL THIS "UNFAIR", HE ACCEPTED THE TERMS AND THEY ARE FIGHTING ON TH 18TH OF JULY...GET OVER IT. :scared:
an intresting point i remember emmanuel stewart saying in the marquez pacman 2 fight, was that he thinks pacman is about 7lbs of natural body weight bigger than marquez. read into that what you will!
Why are people complaining about MM fighting a smaller man yet arguing that he should be fighting Pacquiao? It's one or the other!
because pac is younger and gets better moving up and has fought at welterweight. marquez is not like pac.
...Marquez' last fight was at Lightweight and he's only had one other fight at the weight. And he's actually a small Lightweight. A year and a half ago he was fighting at Featherweight.
So the Marquez - Mayweather fight is gonna take place at 144 instead of the rumored 147. I don't care what anyone says, that shit is still not fair. We're talking about a career Featherweight fighting someone who's been above 140 for the last five years.
If Mayweather is always in such great shape and usually comes in well below the Welterweight limit, I don't see how he would have any problems making 140 again. The fight should have been contracted at 140lbs.
Its funny how the MAJORITY of the fans call this fight unfair because it is at 144, but they will NOT have a problem with Floyd fighting Manny pretty much at the same weight.
JMM THE MAN WHO IS ACTUALLY GOING TO FIGHT IN THE FIGHT HAS NOT ONCE CALL THIS "UNFAIR", HE ACCEPTED THE TERMS AND THEY ARE FIGHTING ON TH 18TH OF JULY...GET OVER IT. :scared:
Why are people complaining about MM fighting a smaller man yet arguing that he should be fighting Pacquiao? It's one or the other!
And he should fight Pacquiao at 140lbs stupid. Get with the program.
...Marquez' last fight was at Lightweight and he's only had one other fight at the weight. And he's actually a small Lightweight. A year and a half ago he was fighting at Featherweight.
So the Marquez - Mayweather fight is gonna take place at 144 instead of the rumored 147. I don't care what anyone says, that shit is still not fair. We're talking about a career Featherweight fighting someone who's been above 140 for the last five years.
If Mayweather is always in such great shape and usually comes in well below the Welterweight limit, I don't see how he would have any problems making 140 again. The fight should have been contracted at 140lbs.
I don't really like it either, but I will take it. I will say this though. If Floyd fights Marquez like he did against Hatton and ODLH, Marquez will beat him.
Floyd will not out time or out counter Marquez with potshots. Timing is Marquez biggest strength and he does it with combination's. Floyd will have to concentrate on speed and angles to win this.