What made Henry Armstrong #3 ATG on most lists?

]Henry Armstrong's accomplishments Wins over: http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern/angott.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/ambers.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/arizmendi.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/bass.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/montanez.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/ross.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/wolgastmidget.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/tendler.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern/zivic.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern/wright.html 10 HOFers Other notable wins: Ceferino Garcia (middleweight title holder, likely a future HOFer) Mike Belloise (reigning featherweight title holder, non-title bout) Petey Sarron (reigning featherweight title holder) Juan Zurita (lightweight title holder) Al Davis Tippy Larkin (junior welterweight champion) Willie Joyce Won the world featherweight, lightweight and welterweight titles. Had wins over super featherweight, light welterweight and middleweight title holders. SFW and LWW divisions were less important then than they are today so these fights were non-title bouts. Defended the welterweight title 18 times (all-time record in that particular division). Prime record (1937-1940) 58 wins, only 1 loss. The loss was disputed as Armstrong, who seemingly controlled the fight, lost 5 rounds on the judges' scorecards for low blows which seemed legal. The fight can be viewed in its entirety on youtube. Drew with middleweight title holder Ceferino Garcia whom he had previously beaten in a fight which was for the middleweight title. The decision was disputed as Armstrong was the aggressor throughout the bout. The win over Barney Ross is one of the most impressive wins in boxing history. Barney Ross, an all-time great himself, had also won titles in 3 divisions and was the defending welterweight champion of the world. Armstrong, coming up from the featherweight division and skipping the lightweight division altogether, dominated the fight from start to finish. During his prime as a featherweight only one man went the distance with him, the durable Baby Arizmendi. The rest of his 36 opponents during that period were knocked out. Also, why is this "Manchine" person following me around?

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Henry Armstrong's accomplishments Wins over: http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern/angott.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/ambers.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/arizmendi.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/bass.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/montanez.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/ross.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/wolgastmidget.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/oldtimer/tendler.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern/zivic.html http://ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern/wright.html 10 HOFers Other notable wins: Ceferino Garcia (middleweight title holder, likely a future HOFer) Mike Belloise (reigning featherweight title holder, non-title bout) Petey Sarron (reigning featherweight title holder) Juan Zurita (lightweight title holder) Al Davis Tippy Larkin (junior welterweight champion) Willie Joyce Won the world featherweight, lightweight and welterweight titles. Had wins over super featherweight, light welterweight and middleweight title holders. SFW and LWW divisions were less important then than they are today so these fights were non-title bouts. Defended the welterweight title 18 times (all-time record in that particular division). Prime record (1937-1940) 58 wins, only 1 loss. The loss was disputed as Armstrong, who seemingly controlled the fight, lost 5 rounds on the judges' scorecards for low blows which seemed legal. The fight can be viewed in its entirety on youtube. Drew with middleweight title holder Ceferino Garcia whom he had previously beaten in a fight which was for the middleweight title. The decision was disputed as Armstrong was the aggressor throughout the bout. The win over Barney Ross is one of the most impressive wins in boxing history. Barney Ross, an all-time great himself, had also won titles in 3 divisions and was the defending welterweight champion of the world. Armstrong, coming up from the featherweight division and skipping the lightweight division altogether, dominated the fight from start to finish. During his prime as a featherweight only one man went the distance with him, the durable Baby Arizmendi. The rest of his 36 opponents during that period were knocked out.

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Henry Armstrong (USA) v Barney Ross (USA) Madison Square Garden USA 1938 PART 1

Henry Armstrong (USA) v Barney Ross (USA) Madison Square Garden USA 1938 PART 1

Armstrong started out as a professional on July 28, 1931, being knocked out by Al Sorvino in three rounds. Just like Alexis Arguello, Bernard Hopkins, and Wilfredo Vazquez in the future, Armstrong was one world champion who started off on the losing end. His first win came later that year, beating Sammy Burns by a decision in six. In 1932, Armstrong moved to Los Angeles, where he started out losing two four round decisions in a row, to Eddie Trujillo and Al Greenfield. But after that, he started a streak of 11 wins in a row, a streak which expanded to 1933, until he lost again, to Baby Manuel. Then he went 22 straight fights without a defeat, going 17-0-5 in that span, including a win in a Sacramento rematch with Manuel, and five wins over Perfecto Lopez. After that, he moved to Mexico City, where in his first fight there, he lost to former world bantamweight champion Baby Arizmendi. He had four more fights there, going 2-2 and losing to Arizmendi in what was considered by Mexico and California a world title bout (thus Armstrong losing on his first championship try), and to Baby Casanova by a five round disqualification. He then moved back to California, where he went 8-1-1 for the next ten bouts. In 1936, Armstrong split time campaigning between Los Angeles, Mexico City and St. Louis. Some opponents of note that year were Ritchie Fontaine, against whom he lost by decision and then won by decision in the rematch, Arizmendi, whom he finally beat by a ten round decision, former world champion Juan Zurita and former champ Mike Belloise, who also lost a decision to Armstrong. Armstrong started out 1937 by winning 22 bouts in a row, 21 by knockout. He beat Casanova in three, Belloise in four, Joe Rivers in three, former world champion Frankie Klick in four and former world champion Benny Bass in four. After those 22 wins in a row, the inevitable happened: Armstrong was given his first world title try, for the 126 pounds title, Featherweight world champion Petey Sarron defending it against him at the Madison Square Garden. Armstrong became the world's Featherweight champion knocking out Sarron in six, and closed the year with four more knockout wins. In 1938, Armstrong started with seven more knockouts in a row, including one over future world champion Chalky Wright. The streak finally ended when Arizmendi lasted ten rounds before losing a decision to Armstrong in their fourth fight. His streak of 27 knockout wins in a row qualifies as one of the longest knockout win streaks in the history of boxing, according to Ring Magazine. After the fourth bout with Arizmendi was a bout with Fritzie Zivic's brother, Eddie Zivic, resulting in another Armstrong knockout win, and after one more bout, Armstrong, the 126 pound division world champion, challenged a fellow member of the three division champions' club, Barney Ross, then world Welterweight champion, for the title. Armstrong, 126, beat Ross, 147, by unanimous decision, adding the world Welterweight championship to his Featherweight belt. Then, he went down in weight, and challenged world Lightweight champion Lou Ambers. In a history making night, Armstrong became the first boxer ever to have world championships in three different divisions at the same time, by beating Ambers on points. A few days later, he decided he couldn't make the 126 pounds weight anymore, and left the Featherweight crown vacant. He dedicated the next two years to defending the welterweight crown, beating, among others, future world middleweight champion Ceferino Garcia, Al Manfredo and Bobby Pacho, before defending his Lightweight belt in a rematch with Ambers, which he lost on a 15 round decision. After that, he concentrated once again on defending the world Welterweight title, and made eight defenses in a row, the last of which was a nine round knockout win over Puerto Rico's Pedro Montanez. Then, he tried to make history once again by becoming the first boxer to win world titles in four different categories in a rematch with Garcia, already world Middleweight champion, but the fight ended in a ten round draw, Armstrong's attempt to win a fourth division's world title being frustrated. According to boxing historian Bert Sugar, many felt Armstrong deserved the decision in this fight. He went back to Welterweight and retained the title five more times, until Fritzie Zivic was able to avenge his brother Eddie's defeat by taking the world title away from Armstrong with a 15 round decision. With this loss, Armstrong's reign as Welterweight champion came to an end, leaving Armstrong's successful defense streak at eighteen, the most defenses by a champion ever in Welterweight history. In 1941, they boxed a rematch, this time, Zivic stopping Armstrong in 12 rounds. 1942 saw Armstrong go 13-1, including wins over world champions (Fritzie) Zivic in a ten round non title bout, Jenkins and Zurita. 1943 saw him go 10-3, with wins over world champions Tippy Larkin and Sammy Angott in ten round bouts, and losses to world champions Beau Jack and Sugar Ray Robinson, also in ten round bouts. 1944 saw Henry go 14-2-1 in 17 bouts, among those, another win over Belloise. After winning one fight, losing one and drawing one in 1945, Armstrong decided to retire from boxing. Apart from the ceremonies and galas that he attended afterwards, he led a relatively quiet life for the rest of his life. He became a born-again Christian and an ordained pastor, and he taught young, upcoming fighters how to box. Armstrong registered an official record of 150 wins, 21 losses and 9 draws, with 100 knockout wins. His exact record, however, isn't really known, because it is said he fought some pay fights under the nickname of Melody Jackson. Armstrong became a member of the International Boxing Hall Of Fame. After retiring from boxing, Henry Armstrong became a Baptist minister. On his passing in 1988, he was interred in the Rosedale Cemetery in Los Angeles, California. The Best of Henry Armstrong Henry Armstrong vs Baby Arizmendi IV Henry Armstrong vs Cerifino Garcia Henry Armstrong vs. Lou Ambers

Armstrong started out as a professional on July 28, 1931, being knocked out by Al Sorvino in three rounds. Just like Alexis Arguello, Bernard Hopkins, and Wilfredo Vazquez in the future, Armstrong was one world champion who started off on the losing end. His first win came later that year, beating Sammy Burns by a decision in six. In 1932, Armstrong moved to Los Angeles, where he started out losing two four round decisions in a row, to Eddie Trujillo and Al Greenfield. But after that, he started a streak of 11 wins in a row, a streak which expanded to 1933, until he lost again, to Baby Manuel. Then he went 22 straight fights without a defeat, going 17-0-5 in that span, including a win in a Sacramento rematch with Manuel, and five wins over Perfecto Lopez. After that, he moved to Mexico City, where in his first fight there, he lost to former world bantamweight champion Baby Arizmendi. He had four more fights there, going 2-2 and losing to Arizmendi in what was considered by Mexico and California a world title bout (thus Armstrong losing on his first championship try), and to Baby Casanova by a five round disqualification. He then moved back to California, where he went 8-1-1 for the next ten bouts. In 1936, Armstrong split time campaigning between Los Angeles, Mexico City and St. Louis. Some opponents of note that year were Ritchie Fontaine, against whom he lost by decision and then won by decision in the rematch, Arizmendi, whom he finally beat by a ten round decision, former world champion Juan Zurita and former champ Mike Belloise, who also lost a decision to Armstrong. Armstrong started out 1937 by winning 22 bouts in a row, 21 by knockout. He beat Casanova in three, Belloise in four, Joe Rivers in three, former world champion Frankie Klick in four and former world champion Benny Bass in four. After those 22 wins in a row, the inevitable happened: Armstrong was given his first world title try, for the 126 pounds title, Featherweight world champion Petey Sarron defending it against him at the Madison Square Garden. Armstrong became the world's Featherweight champion knocking out Sarron in six, and closed the year with four more knockout wins. In 1938, Armstrong started with seven more knockouts in a row, including one over future world champion Chalky Wright. The streak finally ended when Arizmendi lasted ten rounds before losing a decision to Armstrong in their fourth fight. His streak of 27 knockout wins in a row qualifies as one of the longest knockout win streaks in the history of boxing, according to Ring Magazine. After the fourth bout with Arizmendi was a bout with Fritzie Zivic's brother, Eddie Zivic, resulting in another Armstrong knockout win, and after one more bout, Armstrong, the 126 pound division world champion, challenged a fellow member of the three division champions' club, Barney Ross, then world Welterweight champion, for the title. Armstrong, 126, beat Ross, 147, by unanimous decision, adding the world Welterweight championship to his Featherweight belt. Then, he went down in weight, and challenged world Lightweight champion Lou Ambers. In a history making night, Armstrong became the first boxer ever to have world championships in three different divisions at the same time, by beating Ambers on points. A few days later, he decided he couldn't make the 126 pounds weight anymore, and left the Featherweight crown vacant. He dedicated the next two years to defending the welterweight crown, beating, among others, future world middleweight champion Ceferino Garcia, Al Manfredo and Bobby Pacho, before defending his Lightweight belt in a rematch with Ambers, which he lost on a 15 round decision. After that, he concentrated once again on defending the world Welterweight title, and made eight defenses in a row, the last of which was a nine round knockout win over Puerto Rico's Pedro Montanez. Then, he tried to make history once again by becoming the first boxer to win world titles in four different categories in a rematch with Garcia, already world Middleweight champion, but the fight ended in a ten round draw, Armstrong's attempt to win a fourth division's world title being frustrated. According to boxing historian Bert Sugar, many felt Armstrong deserved the decision in this fight. He went back to Welterweight and retained the title five more times, until Fritzie Zivic was able to avenge his brother Eddie's defeat by taking the world title away from Armstrong with a 15 round decision. With this loss, Armstrong's reign as Welterweight champion came to an end, leaving Armstrong's successful defense streak at eighteen, the most defenses by a champion ever in Welterweight history. In 1941, they boxed a rematch, this time, Zivic stopping Armstrong in 12 rounds. 1942 saw Armstrong go 13-1, including wins over world champions (Fritzie) Zivic in a ten round non title bout, Jenkins and Zurita. 1943 saw him go 10-3, with wins over world champions Tippy Larkin and Sammy Angott in ten round bouts, and losses to world champions Beau Jack and Sugar Ray Robinson, also in ten round bouts. 1944 saw Henry go 14-2-1 in 17 bouts, among those, another win over Belloise. After winning one fight, losing one and drawing one in 1945, Armstrong decided to retire from boxing. Apart from the ceremonies and galas that he attended afterwards, he led a relatively quiet life for the rest of his life. He became a born-again Christian and an ordained pastor, and he taught young, upcoming fighters how to box. Armstrong registered an official record of 150 wins, 21 losses and 9 draws, with 100 knockout wins. His exact record, however, isn't really known, because it is said he fought some pay fights under the nickname of Melody Jackson. Armstrong became a member of the International Boxing Hall Of Fame. After retiring from boxing, Henry Armstrong became a Baptist minister. On his passing in 1988, he was interred in the Rosedale Cemetery in Los Angeles, California. The Best of Henry Armstrong Henry Armstrong vs Baby Arizmendi IV Henry Armstrong vs Cerifino Garcia Henry Armstrong vs. Lou Ambers

I made the scales. We were terrible at it. The scales were broken. oh that was you! i knew i remembered you from somewhere

false Robinson weighed in at 157.6 i would know, i was the one officiating the weigh in I made the scales. We were terrible at it. The scales were broken. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Reminds me of Robinson weighing in at 157.5 for the light heavyweight fight with Maxim. false Robinson weighed in at 157.6 i would know, i was the one officiating the weigh in

henry weighed about 140 or so when he challenged for the middleweight belt. :scared: Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Reminds me of Robinson weighing in at 157.5 for the light heavyweight fight with Maxim. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Only a friendly exhibition match between the two old masters. :boxing:

He's number 2 on my list, I'll explain in a while. He's number 2 on my list, I'll explain in a while. LOL wut??? :lol1:

He's number 2 on my list, I'll explain in a while.

He's number 2 on my list, I'll explain in a while.

at one point in boxing history, armstrong nearly held half of the boxing titles(in the original 8 divisions, and when there was only one belt per division) featherweight,lightweight,welterweight, and was robbed of his middleweight title. manny pacquiao won the jr welterweight ring championship.had he beaten marquez at lightweight to take the ring belt, then taken hatton's, than beat the cotto mosley winner at 147 for THEIR ring belt, he would have surpassed him. he would easily be p4p number 1 in my book.still, if he beats floyd, he'll be that anyway(p4p number 1 all time), so his way of going about is cool too.:D

Probably because he had one of the best nicknames EVER in boxing, by far. That makes him at least top 10. Plus beating Cerefino Garcia, Fritzie Zivic, Barney Ross, and Lou Ambers off the top don't hurt. You keep getting owned on these old fighters conversations then starting up other threads. Wait till the Manchine finds out!

;5284948']never saw a single fight of his, dont even know what he looks like and what do you mean possibly? i could watch his fights and read his interviews and be as knowledgable on him as you or anyone else you dont gotta be from back then to know what happened nowadays This is true, doubt anyone one on here has seen him fight in his prime.

I'm 23 years old. I've seen tapes of Armstrong and he appeared to be special fighter with amazing stamina and speed. I don't truly know how great he was so I can't say if he's underrated or overrated. All I can say is that if he was good enough to be #3 all time on people's lists, I'm guessing he was an amazing fighter. Manny has a ways to go.