Really? Cuz Floyd WONT fight Cotto. Floyd WONT fight Mosley. Where as Pacquiao would be willing to fight Cotto AND Mosley and would prolly fight JMM too even though he would have lost to Mayweather.
Mayweather pretty much has explained he wont fight anyone in the WW division. So what options does he have other than Pacquiao? Hatton 2? DLH 2?
ha
Ouch the truth hurts.
825K, maybe 850K in a much worse economy than Floyd/Hatton's 915K. Pretty damn impressive. Looks like Quisqueya/Dios Dominicano was FULL of %$#@ after all.
Stop playing the weak ass economy card. It doesn't fly, read the thread
ummm...no. That's how u want it, but that ain't how it really is. The same options for pacman are the same for floyd. Actually floyd has more options than pacman. Mosley is a fight pacman won't take
Really? Cuz Floyd WONT fight Cotto. Floyd WONT fight Mosley. Where as Pacquiao would be willing to fight Cotto AND Mosley and would prolly fight JMM too even though he would have lost to Mayweather.
Mayweather pretty much has explained he wont fight anyone in the WW division. So what options does he have other than Pacquiao? Hatton 2? DLH 2?
ha
rafael isn't the type of writer to pull shit out of his ass. He can be kind of a arrogrant prick to read sometimes, but he's reliable. If he says 800k+ then that is the number. It is a really impressive number. Considering that in a much, much better economy, mayweather (against a much more credible hatton) barely beat those numbers is very telling.
much more credible....the excuse just keep piling. And dan does spew bs. He is more worng than u think.
how is that if mayweather/marquez will have a 24/7 and pacquiao/marquez didnt and still nearly reached 500k?
Fact is, at this point, its who's hot and who the public wants to get behind.
Its pretty obvious pac would be just fine fighting cotto instead of floyd and calling it a day. Its floyd who wants to regain the title so he will be at pacquiao's mercy.
Pacquioao doesnt need floyd. But for floyd to accomplish what he wants, he has to go through pacquiao.
Aint it funny how that works? ummm...no. That's how u want it, but that ain't how it really is. The same options for pacman are the same for floyd. Actually floyd has more options than pacman. Mosley is a fight pacman won't take
pac did this in a recession, pbf did his numbers in a better economy
ain't no difference really in 2007 or 2009. I think 50/50 ain't unreasonable, even thoguh floyd's #s are tad better
3rd source now.
R. Thomas Umstead -- Multichannel News, 5/13/2009 9:32:00 AM MT
HBO PPV's May 2 Manny Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton fight generated north of 800,000 buys, according to several pay-per-view industry sources
HBO officials uncharacteristically did not release official PPV buy numbers for the event, in which Pacquiao knocked out Hatton in the second round. Typically, HBO releases PPV buys for its best performing events, most recently the 1.2 million buys it generated for the December 2008 Pacquiao-Oscar De La Hoya fight.
But sources within the PPV industry estimate buys for the fight at over the 800,000 mark, which would place the fight in the neighborhood of the 915,000 buys for the December 2007 Hatton-Floyd Mayweather fight.
HBO senior vice president of sports operations and pay-per-view Mark Taffet would not comment on the Hatton-Pacquaio buy figure, but said the Hatton-Pacquiao event was a "true PPV megafight" and added it sets the stage for other potentially strong performing PPV boxing events for 2009.
Up first is the July 18 Mayweather-Juan Manuel Marquez bout, marking the undefeated Mayweather's first fight since retiring from the sport last June. If Mayeweather wins, it could set up a highly anticipated Mayweather-Pacquiao fight later in the year.
"Manny Pacquiao established himself as a pay-per-view star, igniting a boxing resurgence that will continue with the Mayweather-Marquez fight and carry through the rest of the year."
Satellite provider DirecTV would not reveal specific numbers, but did say that the fight performed "above expectations." In Demand, which handles PPV event distribution for most of the cable industry, including its owners Time Warner, Comcast and Cox, said it was too early to determine exact fight PPV figures.
But In Demand president and CEO Robert Jacobson said that given the buzz surrounding the fight both among consumers and cable operators "we're confident that we'll be happy with its performance."
http://www.multichannel.com/article/232480-PPV_Distributors_Pacquiao_Hatton_Connects_On_More_Than_800_000_Buys.php
I found the source for the 650k btw.
825K, maybe 850K in a much worse economy than Floyd/Hatton's 915K. Pretty damn impressive. Looks like Quisqueya/Dios Dominicano was FULL of %$#@ after all.
no no the guy around quisqueya's house is more reliable. how dare you insult his source
Rafael isn't the type of writer to pull shit out of his ass. He can be kind of a arrogrant prick to read sometimes, but he's reliable. If he says 800k+ then that is the number. It is a really impressive number. Considering that in a much, much better economy, Mayweather (against a much more credible Hatton) barely beat those numbers is very telling.
825K, maybe 850K in a much worse economy than Floyd/Hatton's 915K. Pretty damn impressive. Looks like Quisqueya/Dios Dominicano was FULL of %$#@ after all.
well, i didn't know it was "your" source. That's a whole different story, who the f are steve kim and dan rafael compared with your source? Please keep us informed.
Bottom line, we agree that manny's sales are not helping his negotiations for the floyd.
I do like how you are now open to rafael's estimates but were not open to his sources.
lmao......
Dan Rafael from espn.com
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4165901&name=rafael_dan
good numbers for two non American fighters
good numbers no doubt......
but this just reaffirms the fact that pacquiao WON'T be getting the lion's share of the purse, if he and his team drum up the courage to face floyd.
Waly... n ot to worry.
When the officials com e out, if the number is actually "north of 800K", I will b e the first one to correct my own data. If it was 800K, then that is a center cut number b/w the source that I had early last week, and the "north of 900K" that Arum gave last week.
If my source was 10-15% light, I will be more than happy to correct my data.
Also, If Floyd/JMM does 500K, as Rafael is projecting, then that means Mayweather is 3-0 in sales over Manny. That would hurt negotiations.
Well, I didn't know it was "your" source. That's a whole different story, who the F are Steve Kim and Dan Rafael compared with your source? Please keep us informed.
Bottom line, we agree that Manny's sales are not helping his negotiations for the Floyd.
I do like how you are now open to Rafael's estimates but were not open to his sources.
Also, If Floyd/JMM does 500K, as Rafael is projecting, then that means Mayweather is 3-0 in sales over Manny. That would hurt negotiations.
How is that if Mayweather/Marquez will have a 24/7 and Pacquiao/Marquez didnt and STILL nearly reached 500K?
Fact is, at this point, its who's hot and who the public wants to get behind.
Its pretty obvious Pac would be just fine fighting Cotto instead of Floyd and calling it a day. Its Floyd who wants to regain the title so he will be at Pacquiao's mercy.
Pacquioao doesnt need Floyd. But for Floyd to accomplish what he wants, he has to go through Pacquiao.
Aint it funny how that works?
selling out shows isn't the same as ppv buys.
it's too different demographics I think
PPV buys are actually LESS affected by the economy than a live gate is. Even in a bad economy, a PPV can be split amongst a group of friends, and is relatively cheap entertainment. On the other hand, 5 people can't "chip in" on a seat in an arena.
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