First I want to say I am not really a pacman or mayweather fan, however I respect the hell out of manny because he is the far greater p4p champion the floyd. Yes floyd may be the more skilled fighter and i would favor him if they fight, but floyd will never be close to how manny represents the true p4p champion.
The reason..... simple, Manny started at one of the lowest weight classes in boxing and has won titles in 6 differnt weight classes. Floyd on the other hand started at jr lightweight and won titles in 5 differnt weight classes. however, the big differnce is that after everyone of mannys wins he looks forward to fight best opponant out there. i mean seriously after he beat de la hoya he called out Margacheato when he was the most feared man in boxing. what did floyd do when offered 8million to fight him (which at the time would of been his biggest payday) he ran. After manny beat a new and at the time dangerious hatton he calls out Mosley and Cotto the two most dangerious welterweights in the world. When floyd was p4p after he beat oscar did he challenge either of these men? No, he made a one dimential hatton come up in weight to fight him at welterweight rather than fighting cotto mosley or margacheato.
So now for whatever reason floyd comes back and who does he fight? Marquez, an absolutly great fighter but a man whos last fight was at lightweight, i mean seriously is anyone else seeing the pattern here? Floyd could of atleast fought a Berto who would have made him good money also.
Well im done ranting and im not trying to completely poo on floyd but i just think hes an absolutly discrase with the talent he has compaired to Pacquaio when it comes to p4p king.
Idk is it just me or does anybody else see it this way also???
First I want to say I am not really a pacman or mayweather fan, however I respect the hell out of manny because he is the far greater p4p champion the floyd. Yes floyd may be the more skilled fighter and i would favor him if they fight, but floyd will never be close to how manny represents the true p4p champion.
The reason..... simple, Manny started at one of the lowest weight classes in boxing and has won titles in 6 differnt weight classes. Floyd on the other hand started at jr lightweight and won titles in 5 differnt weight classes. however, the big differnce is that after everyone of mannys wins he looks forward to fight best opponant out there. i mean seriously after he beat de la hoya he called out Margacheato when he was the most feared man in boxing. what did floyd do when offered 8million to fight him (which at the time would of been his biggest payday) he ran. After manny beat a new and at the time dangerious hatton he calls out Mosley and Cotto the two most dangerious welterweights in the world. When floyd was p4p after he beat oscar did he challenge either of these men? No, he made a one dimential hatton come up in weight to fight him at welterweight rather than fighting cotto mosley or margacheato.
So now for whatever reason floyd comes back and who does he fight? Marquez, an absolutly great fighter but a man whos last fight was at lightweight, i mean seriously is anyone else seeing the pattern here? Floyd could of atleast fought a Berto who would have made him good money also.
Well im done ranting and im not trying to completely poo on floyd but i just think hes an absolutly discrase with the talent he has compaired to Pacquaio when it comes to p4p king.
Idk is it just me or does anybody else see it this way also???
still you rather see JMM fight Pacquiao at 140. thats retarded to me.
"I rather see a man who is killing the 140 division right now, fight JMM who's last fight was at lightweight, at 140lbs. Instead of a man who has been out of boxing for 1 1/2 years, fight JMM who's last fight was at lightweight, at 140lbs"
Makes no sense to me. Just proves that JMM is over-rated by his fans. "I can cheer for him and make him sound like he is the shit but to get a REAL challange, I dont think he will win."
You have got to respect pac for what he has done and is doing. He is very impressive and a true champ. Floyd is a great boxer and a great talker, but not so much of a doer. If pac actually does fight cotto next, im sure it must give floyd and his fans a few awkward moments. Floyd should and could have fought cotto before he retired but choose not to, now pac takes it on. Interesting situation. :wave:
all good replys. everybody is entitled to their opinion if it is truely what you believe and are not being bias. id like to hear Larry X's unbias opinion on this....
I'm not sure you do homey. Could be dangerous.
all good replys. everybody is entitled to their opinion if it is truely what you believe and are not being bias. id like to hear Larry X's unbias opinion on this....
i agree pacquiao is the better champion, he takes on the biggest names out there while being humble. mayweather... i dont understand why he runs from cotto and everyone thats feared, because i think he has the skill to take them all out.
Because his middle man is MONEY!!!! MONEY TALKS, BULLSHIT WALKS!!! I thought Berto would have been a great comeback fight and take back the belt he vacated but with the Marquez bout he should show off who has better skill. If Marquez is p4p #2 and Floyd easily outboxes him, I think that says more than just overpowering him because he is the bigger guy.
This is all true stuff. I've said it before also. BTW-If Manny fought Cotto, I wouldn't say he'd get destroyed by body shots. Don't you think they will prefer for that stuff? Roach is a strategic genious at breaking down fighters, and Manny, well, he executes a gameplan to the T. Someone also said, if you gave Floyd one of Manny's nuts, he'd be ATG, that's partially true. Still wouldn't be as exciting, but if he took more risks and fought better comp, he'd def be respected more.
true that!!!! i wish some of his "Fans" read that statement :boxing:
Good thread and hell i'd still be surprised if Floyd is willing to face off against Pac. We already know he aint fighting Cotto or Mosley. What's kostya Tszyu doing these days??
This is all true stuff. I've said it before also. BTW-If Manny fought Cotto, I wouldn't say he'd get destroyed by body shots. Don't you think they will prepare for that stuff? Roach is a strategic genious at breaking down fighters, and Manny, well, he executes a gameplan to the T. Someone also said, if you gave Floyd one of Manny's nuts, he'd be ATG, that's partially true. Still wouldn't be as exciting, but if he took more risks and fought better comp, he'd def be respected more.
Nah, Freddie said no way he knew Manny's limits. See this pactard mania has gotten out of control, no saying you because you thought you heard something that wasnt the case, but others are out of control.
yeah, freddie was definitely against it but the rumors out of manilla and stuff was that pac wanted that fight.... but it was just rumors.
First I want to say I am not really a pacman or mayweather fan, however I respect the hell out of manny because he is the far greater p4p champion the floyd. Yes floyd may be the more skilled fighter and i would favor him if they fight, but floyd will never be close to how manny represents the true p4p champion.
The reason..... simple, Manny started at one of the lowest weight classes in boxing and has won titles in 6 differnt weight classes. Floyd on the other hand started at jr lightweight and won titles in 5 differnt weight classes. however, the big differnce is that after everyone of mannys wins he looks forward to fight best opponant out there. i mean seriously after he beat de la hoya he called out Margacheato when he was the most feared man in boxing. what did floyd do when offered 8million to fight him (which at the time would of been his biggest payday) he ran. After manny beat a new and at the time dangerious hatton he calls out Mosley and Cotto the two most dangerious welterweights in the world. When floyd was p4p after he beat oscar did he challenge either of these men? No, he made a one dimential hatton come up in weight to fight him at welterweight rather than fighting cotto mosley or margacheato.
So now for whatever reason floyd comes back and who does he fight? Marquez, an absolutly great fighter but a man whos last fight was at lightweight, i mean seriously is anyone else seeing the pattern here? Floyd could of atleast fought a Berto who would have made him good money also.
Well im done ranting and im not trying to completely poo on floyd but i just think hes an absolutly discrase with the talent he has compaired to Pacquaio when it comes to p4p king.
Idk is it just me or does anybody else see it this way also???
First let's get it straight Bob Arum stated on boxing scene that Marg was too big for Manny and he would not let that fight take place. 8 Mil to fight Marg or 25 mil to fight Oscar, you choose. Lastly both Mosley and Cotto got called out by Floyd and both refused to fight Floyd. What can Floyd do, now that he's the big dog he should fight them because they are asking for it so they can earn a check off of him....lol.....................
Both Forest and Winky are still fighting, I dont hear anyone mentioning why Mosley won't avenge his losses to them.
to be real people was already qustioning floyd p4p title before he retired. pacquaio wouldve past him soon away b/c of his choice of opponates.
theres alot of fighters i respect more than floyd.
shane regardless win/lose/draw he coming to fight. he didnt have to fight winky, vernon, or cotto. then he fought winky & vernon twice & wants to fight cotto. fought way bigger guys like vargas & mayorga. pwill is the first time he said **** it im not taking no risk. imo the only reason he said that is b/c from the outside looking in floyd & oscar cherry pickng their way to billionare status. he like shit i want that too.
zab fights tougher fights than floyd. even with his focus i cant say zab has turned down a fight. he fought cotto, clottey, & floyd. was scheduled to fight shane til he loss to his shower. had talks with margarito. yes he losing but dude still getting in that ring with top ww.
pwill just said fck it & moved to deeper waters & proved he can swim.
First I want to say I am not really a pacman or mayweather fan, however I respect the hell out of manny because he is the far greater p4p champion the floyd. Yes floyd may be the more skilled fighter and i would favor him if they fight, but floyd will never be close to how manny represents the true p4p champion.
The reason..... simple, Manny started at one of the lowest weight classes in boxing and has won titles in 6 differnt weight classes. Floyd on the other hand started at jr lightweight and won titles in 5 differnt weight classes. however, the big differnce is that after everyone of mannys wins he looks forward to fight best opponant out there. i mean seriously after he beat de la hoya he called out Margacheato when he was the most feared man in boxing. what did floyd do when offered 8million to fight him (which at the time would of been his biggest payday) he ran. After manny beat a new and at the time dangerious hatton he calls out Mosley and Cotto the two most dangerious welterweights in the world. When floyd was p4p after he beat oscar did he challenge either of these men? No, he made a one dimential hatton come up in weight to fight him at welterweight rather than fighting cotto mosley or margacheato.
So now for whatever reason floyd comes back and who does he fight? Marquez, an absolutly great fighter but a man whos last fight was at lightweight, i mean seriously is anyone else seeing the pattern here? Floyd could of atleast fought a Berto who would have made him good money also.
Well im done ranting and im not trying to completely poo on floyd but i just think hes an absolutly discrase with the talent he has compaired to Pacquaio when it comes to p4p king.
Idk is it just me or does anybody else see it this way also???
yeah, i do remember pac talking about a fight with margo, that was fukin nuts... I didn't take him seriously, but maybe he was being serious.
Im thinking you are an idiot.
i think people like u should be ban. he have a strong point and u come with that stupid answer.
manny and floyd are great fighters. one has proved fight after fight that he's one of the best. the other one hasn't prove much
i agree pacquiao is the better champion, he takes on the biggest names out there while being humble. mayweather... i dont understand why he runs from cotto and everyone thats feared, because i think he has the skill to take them all out.