Hatton gets destroyed in two rounds, Morales killed twice, Barrera gets knocked out, De La Hoya quits and Marquez did get knocked down four times but he did get up from all the knock downs and in all reality only one round officially seperates the two fighters.
So how in the hell can Marquez have a bad chin when he was the one who survived and has a legitimate claim that he beat Pacman twice.
thanks for letting me know that pac throws left hooks, i was not aware of this
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It's good to know these things. "Wow, see that left hook that just knocked Marquez down!"
As for him looking better at 135, better than what exactly? At 126 he was much, much better than he is now. He gets hit too much now and used to have great defense, his reflexes have slowed considerably and he is, in general, a lot slower also. He had super quick hands and just because he is still winning doesn't mean he is getting better. Sadly, I agree with the other guy that said he didn't actually look that good at 135.
When you've seen most of his early fights and prime years, there is a huge difference to how he is fighting now. He was much better and has declined a fair bit. I also think he would finally get beaten convincingly by Pac if they meet again. Pac is still in his peak prime years and looking as good as ever, while Marquez is now well past his prime years and has steadily declined. Great fighter still, no doubt about it, but he is not as good as he was. Slowed down just that little bit too much, gets hit that little bit too much and his counter punch reflexes have also slowed down just a bit too much.
It will be nice to see him get his super payday against Mayweather finally.
Marquezs has a suspect chin. Please dont be bias and say pillow fisted J.Diaz didnt rock him into the corner. Come on people, Marquez doesnt belong anywhere higher then 135. Weight matters to a guy like Marquez, he's slower, vulnerable, and has no power. END OF DISCUSSION.
I'm a big marquez fan too and i think he's the best counterpuncher in the sports today and i believe he has a very good chin but he didnt look good at 135,he struggled during his fight with juan diaz thats why i cant see him winning at 140 with the much improved pacman
I think pacman is a monster at 140,It would be a suicide for marquez to face pacman at 140,his chin is a magnet to pacman's devastating left hooks
thanks for letting me know that pac throws left hooks, i was not aware of this
All three of the fighters you just mentioned all have been knocked out in their career. Marquez has never been knocked out so how exactly does he have the wost chin among all these mexican fighters??
I always thought you had to actually get knocked out to have a weak chin.
you're right, my mistake.
i'd say jmm has better recuperative ability, plus jmm hasn't been in as many wars as mab and morales
dlh never went down.
mab and morales both went down, but they never went to pac's corner
jmm has the worse chin out of all these mexicans... that said, no disgrace for going down from pac's punches
All three of the fighters you just mentioned all have been knocked out in their career. Marquez has never been knocked out so how exactly does he have the wost chin among all these mexican fighters??
I always thought you had to actually get knocked out to have a weak chin.
Marquez has a great chin, but what happens with Pacquaio at 140? I see a KO for Manny.
Marquez just knocked out two champions that have never been knocked out ever in their careers and one was 10 years younger than him. I think it's Marquez who's gotten stronger as he's gone up in weight.
Hatton gets destroyed in two rounds, Morales killed twice, Barrera gets knocked out, De La Hoya quits and Marquez did get knocked down four times but he did get up from all the knock downs and in all reality only one round officially seperates the two fighters.
So how in the hell can Marquez have a bad chin when he was the one who survived and has a legitimate claim that he beat Pacman twice.
dlh never went down.
mab and morales both went down, but they never went to pac's corner
jmm has the worse chin out of all these mexicans... that said, no disgrace for going down from pac's punches
Hatton gets destroyed in two rounds, Morales killed twice, Barrera gets knocked out, De La Hoya quits and Marquez did get knocked down four times but he did get up from all the knock downs and in all reality only one round officially seperates the two fighters.
So how in the hell can Marquez have a bad chin when he was the one who survived and has a legitimate claim that he beat Pacman twice.
Marquez has a great chin, but what happens with Pacquaio at 140? I see a KO for Manny.
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Sure they are.
Ring Magazing issue July 2008 Page 33
"I dont wanna see Manny in any more wars like the one he had with marquez" Said Pacquiao's Yoda like trainer, freddie roach.
"I don't want to see him get hurt but mannys ferocity is what makes him."
"Once i see him in another fight like that or he starts slipping, that it". "It's over".
Hatton gets destroyed in two rounds, Morales killed twice, Barrera gets knocked out, De La Hoya quits and Marquez did get knocked down four times but he did get up from all the knock downs and in all reality only one round officially seperates the two fighters.
So how in the hell can Marquez have a bad chin when he was the one who survived and has a legitimate claim that he beat Pacman twice.
I think it is down to him having a pretty good chin, but also having LOADS of heart, respectively... the guy gets my respect for it.
That's why people say having a good chin is both physical and mental, Marquez is a prime example!
Read the issue of Ring magazine where it covers their second fight. Roach says "If Manny takes shots like that ever again I'm gonna make him retire".
Sure, Roach said that.
Wow, sure he did.
Read the issue of Ring magazine where it covers their second fight. Roach says "If Manny takes shots like that ever again I'm gonna make him retire".
That was in high altitude as well, in South America.
btw, are you from Russia?
I remember Hopkins getting Knocked Down in Jersey once and I'm from Texas and no I'm not Russian why??
Marquez has a good chin, but has horrible balance sometimes.
His knockdowns against Norwood, Barrera and Pacquiao all came from momentum when his feet were positioned wrong.
Which is not unusual for counter puncers/thinking fighters. Only time I have ever seen Hopkins get knocked down was when he was off balance or in an incorrect position.
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