manny u proved me wrong....BUT, you will get clipped sooner or later

nah a dont agree wth tht..av seen manny hurt afew times off....morales,marquez etc hewas defo hurt yea they hurt him, but Hatton didn't. Morales and Marquez are near ATG featherweights. Pacquiao wasn't as good back then either. Even when he was hit by them, his recovery was amazing.

Manny defo proved me wrong by knockin ricky out in 2nd round and in the way he did it. I thought he would of won by tko in the 10th or on points but take my hat off to him once again.

nah a dont agree wth tht..av seen manny hurt afew times off....morales,marquez etc hewas defo hurt If there is a lesson to be learned at the hatton and pacquiao fight is, manny is improving. If you base your strategy on his past fights you're in for a surprise. The filipino is improving vastly.

Maybe if Rickys trainer would have taught him more If anyone can get this to Floyd Sr i hope he sees this I AM DISAPPOINTED!! if he had let him fight he would have had a much better chance all he did was RUN HIS MOUTH and make stupid rap songs about how Pacman was going to lose so i paid 50 Bucks had all my friends over and we never even got to sit down before Ricky got knocked down. Floyd SR and Jr both are full of shit and i hope they read this Pac Man will kill Floyd in the first 6 rounds if he has the balls to fight at all he is all mouth and its a shame cause he has talent but lets it slip by when hes running that mouth BUT DONT WORRY pACMAN WILL CLOSE IT FOR HIM !!!

no bro, Pacquiao was maybe off balance for a split second, but he was never close to being hurt - he retaliated with 5 punches for every one of Ricky's. I don't think Floyd even has as much power as Hatton after watching the FMJ vs Hatton fight over. Pacquiao looks like he's got a lot more pop in his punches. nah a dont agree wth tht..av seen manny hurt afew times off....morales,marquez etc hewas defo hurt

manny proved me wrong against hatton as i seen it as a ricky win via tko tho hatton landed 1 significant punch wether u pacman fans choose to believe u seen it....manny gt clipped n his legs went for a second or 2.....floyd will eat n shit him no bro, Pacquiao was maybe off balance for a split second, but he was never close to being hurt - he retaliated with 5 punches for every one of Ricky's. I don't think Floyd even has as much power as Hatton after watching the FMJ vs Hatton fight over. Pacquiao looks like he's got a lot more pop in his punches.

that was a mistype. I meant berto wasn't great defensively, but offensively he is quick. There is a difference between Hate and being a REALIST. Pacmania is out of control. Hearns was the man until he met Hagler. Pacquaio might be the same. He might win, he might not. Hatton and de la Zombie just don't cut it as a good measuring stick. Take it easy, no one is shitting on Pac as a man or as a boxer, I'm taking a step back and seeing through the nonsense about Pac TKO'ing God in three rounds. berto will get found out soon enough.....

You proved you are an ignorant hater with the bolded lines in your post. Berto great with his deffense?? Everyone meets their match sooner or later it just depends on how they handel it. He barely survived?? He destroyed Morrales, he destroyed Hatton who did not wilt he got beat down. he was more then game. It wasn't like what happened with Jermain Taylor where hatton was landing and winning the fight with ease and then all of a sudden wilted to the power of a fighter with limited skills of a Carl Froch. That is wilting. PACMAN destroyed a top level fighter in Hatton give him credit. He destroyed Morrales give him credit. He destroyed Diaz destroyed him took him apart and KHTFO. You are a hater and you don't know what you are talking about. Fighters will go where the money is if the money is at a cath weight of 143-144 Cotto and others will try to make that weight. You will see Mayweather fight JMM at a catch weight of 143 and if he wins maybe we will get PACMAN MONEY at the same catch weight....Lefty that was a mistype. I meant berto wasn't great defensively, but offensively he is quick. There is a difference between Hate and being a REALIST. Pacmania is out of control. Hearns was the man until he met Hagler. Pacquaio might be the same. He might win, he might not. Hatton and de la Zombie just don't cut it as a good measuring stick. Take it easy, no one is shitting on Pac as a man or as a boxer, I'm taking a step back and seeing through the nonsense about Pac TKO'ing God in three rounds.

Give it a read Pullcounter...And thanks for the compliment sir....Lefty lefty a had a brief read at ur post n its interesting n alot of the points i totally agree on....i just find floyd will have 2 much skills 4 manny....I do rate pacman but i don't think that he is all that in 2 rounds with hatton i seen so many flaws in mannys stlye

i'll tell you the truth, you're a good poster, but i didn't even bother to read that. Give it a read Pullcounter...And thanks for the compliment sir....Lefty

Lol. didnt see much about tactics in it, some stuff about speed. Timing beats speed. Timing can beat reach. Timing can beat most things. Williams vs quintana is an example.

Cotto-Pacquiao? at what weight? at 140lbs Cotto needs to chop off one of his arms. Will it be at 147? an angry floyd fan lol im scottish n i just follow the sport of boxing,u sound like an angry pacman fan that can't come 2 terms with the fact tht jmm beat him twice in the opinion of many people including boxing experts

A big if my friend very big if. The one thing you over look sir is speed. Speed kills and it kills quick. Manny may just be the fastest gun in the west right now. he can thorw down and he is not afraid to draw on you at the speed of light. Money May is very technicial and has great deffese and foot work and yes I believe if there is a game plan put in place there is no one better to carry it out then Roger and Floyd Mayweather. But if the Queen had Bal ls she would be King my friend. All the prefight prospectives are purely curcumstancial. We have seen what Manny coul do even when everyone said he couldn't do it. I am one of those guys who said Oscar was weight drained. Manny did what he was supposed to do to Oscar. A healthy Oscar would have done much better a prime Oscar would have been too much for Manny to handle at that weight. Then hatton came along and I said Hatton is king at 140. Undefeated at 140. It is his prime weight and he is stronger and too big for manny to handle his power to the body. Yes Hatton rushed in and got caught yes that was what manny expected him to do, But didn't manny do what hatton expected him to do to? He jabbed and threw the straigh left. He moved in and out and ran circles around him before you knew it Hatton was on the ground 2 times and probably didn't know what hit him until he watched the fight back in his room later on. That chin check of a over hand left in round 2 at the bell was the destroyer plain and simple. he deserves that nick name. Floyd has been up against few tests in his carreer. partically due to his skill level being that much above everyone else out there at the time he met them in the ring and partially because he avoided fighters who where dangerous but didn't provide the right amount of $$$ for the risk involved. This time he will be in there with a man that is a threat in my mind and has the speed to catch him and make him look slow. The fact is if Floyd meets Manny in the ring my money is on Floyd but I wouldnt be surprised at this point if Manny was the first to put him on the canvas. Poor Manny if he beats Floyd by some act of GOD they will say Floyd was Rusty, Floyd hands are bad, Floyd was weight drained. Floyd has arthritus, Floyd has a hang nail. All that instead of Floyd got beat....Lefty i'll tell you the truth, you're a good poster, but i didn't even bother to read that.

As i said in another thread. Technically there are several reasons to suggest Floyd Mayweather Jr, provided he is still prime and beats Marquez, actually has a serious chance of hurting Manny Pacquiao should they fight. 1) People are getting carried away with the manner of the way Hatton was destroyed, I picked him to get knocked out, but like many, went for the later rounds. However whilst pacquiao's timing was outstanding, hatton was actually the cause of his own downfall because he didn't listen to the gameplan. A plan which I will go into next point. Simply rushing in head first with no head movement was always going to result in a knockout win Pacquaio because thats all they had prepared for in the months up to the fight. Trust me, if hatton had done something different, roach was still gambling on hatton getting hit, losing the gameplan and reverting back to type. 2) To beat Manny Pacquaio you need two things. Correct footwork and timing. Mayweather Sr apparently told hatton to move to his left and jab before the fight. The very same thing I was saying the moment the fight was made, now Mayweather Sr (if this is true) has shown that he can see pacquaio's key weakness, but hatton didnt have the mentality and skills to apply it. Example, hatton is not a counterpuncher, so mayweather sr would have wanted to him to move to his left and smother, rather than drawn him in and counterpunch. But it proves one thing, he's obviously studied manny and can see the way, I dont believe Roger mayweather has missed this either. If you had to pick one fighter on earth to able to execute that fightplan, you'd most likely pick mayweather. 3) In my opinion Manny pacquiao isnt the same fighter when your circle to your left and away from his left hand. Now the fact hatton came onto him head first allowed manny to open up with the hook, but what if someone doesnt rush him? What if they create distance and move to the left. Well Marquez did this and Pacquiao ended up lunging in and getting countered. If floyd mayweather moves to his left and gives himself distance, what is manny pacquiao going to do? because when it come to lateral movement I dont believe he can match mayweather. 4) This was a fantastic point made on a youtube video, which I can send to you, great points, I wont post it here incase the noobs get a hold of it. This is what the guy basically said "What is the one key punch against a southpaw? The right hand". "Now Oscar de la hoya is a southpaw coverted to orthodox I believe, so his right hand is not his power hand". Very good point. Ricky Hatton doesnt have the speed and skills to land a powerful lead right hand on pacquaio from distance. But who has one of the best lead rights of the last decade, Mayweather Jr. One more thing, Mayweather's right hand is about TIMING, which means stepping to the left to line it up waiting for the guy to open up and then he throws it. Timing beats speed, mayweather's timing is unreal. 5) If Mayweather can avoid the left hand lead. Unless mayweather is up close and coming onto pacquiao, would you think pacquaio will be able to land a lead right hook, clean on the chin, then put his head down incase a punch is thrown back, without getting hit back by floyd mayweather? Im not so sure. If he can't, what does pacquiao do next? Not saying Pacquaio has no chance, not saying that at all, its just about having some perspective. A big if my friend very big if. The one thing you over look sir is speed. Speed kills and it kills quick. Manny may just be the fastest gun in the west right now. he can thorw down and he is not afraid to draw on you at the speed of light. Money May is very technicial and has great deffese and foot work and yes I believe if there is a game plan put in place there is no one better to carry it out then Roger and Floyd Mayweather. But if the Queen had Bal ls she would be King my friend. All the prefight prospectives are purely curcumstancial. We have seen what Manny coul do even when everyone said he couldn't do it. I am one of those guys who said Oscar was weight drained. Manny did what he was supposed to do to Oscar. A healthy Oscar would have done much better a prime Oscar would have been too much for Manny to handle at that weight. Then hatton came along and I said Hatton is king at 140. Undefeated at 140. It is his prime weight and he is stronger and too big for manny to handle his power to the body. Yes Hatton rushed in and got caught yes that was what manny expected him to do, But didn't manny do what hatton expected him to do to? He jabbed and threw the straigh left. He moved in and out and ran circles around him before you knew it Hatton was on the ground 2 times and probably didn't know what hit him until he watched the fight back in his room later on. That chin check of a over hand left in round 2 at the bell was the destroyer plain and simple. he deserves that nick name. Floyd has been up against few tests in his carreer. partically due to his skill level being that much above everyone else out there at the time he met them in the ring and partially because he avoided fighters who where dangerous but didn't provide the right amount of $$$ for the risk involved. This time he will be in there with a man that is a threat in my mind and has the speed to catch him and make him look slow. The fact is if Floyd meets Manny in the ring my money is on Floyd but I wouldnt be surprised at this point if Manny was the first to put him on the canvas. Poor Manny if he beats Floyd by some act of GOD they will say Floyd was Rusty, Floyd hands are bad, Floyd was weight drained. Floyd has arthritus, Floyd has a hang nail. All that instead of Floyd got beat....Lefty

manny proved me wrong against hatton as i seen it as a ricky win via tko tho hatton landed 1 significant punch wether u pacman fans choose to believe u seen it....manny gt clipped n his legs went for a second or 2.....floyd will eat n shit him lol epic fail...

As i said in another thread. Technically there are several reasons to suggest Floyd Mayweather Jr, provided he is still prime and beats Marquez, actually has a serious chance of hurting Manny Pacquiao should they fight. 1) People are getting carried away with the manner of the way Hatton was destroyed, I picked him to get knocked out, but like many, went for the later rounds. However whilst pacquiao's timing was outstanding, hatton was actually the cause of his own downfall because he didn't listen to the gameplan. A plan which I will go into next point. Simply rushing in head first with no head movement was always going to result in a knockout win Pacquaio because thats all they had prepared for in the months up to the fight. Trust me, if hatton had done something different, roach was still gambling on hatton getting hit, losing the gameplan and reverting back to type. 2) To beat Manny Pacquaio you need two things. Correct footwork and timing. Mayweather Sr apparently told hatton to move to his left and jab before the fight. The very same thing I was saying the moment the fight was made, now Mayweather Sr (if this is true) has shown that he can see pacquaio's key weakness, but hatton didnt have the mentality and skills to apply it. Example, hatton is not a counterpuncher, so mayweather sr would have wanted to him to move to his left and smother, rather than drawn him in and counterpunch. But it proves one thing, he's obviously studied manny and can see the way, I dont believe Roger mayweather has missed this either. If you had to pick one fighter on earth to able to execute that fightplan, you'd most likely pick mayweather. 3) In my opinion Manny pacquiao isnt the same fighter when your circle to your left and away from his left hand. Now the fact hatton came onto him head first allowed manny to open up with the hook, but what if someone doesnt rush him? What if they create distance and move to the left. Well Marquez did this and Pacquiao ended up lunging in and getting countered. If floyd mayweather moves to his left and gives himself distance, what is manny pacquiao going to do? because when it come to lateral movement I dont believe he can match mayweather. 4) This was a fantastic point made on a youtube video, which I can send to you, great points, I wont post it here incase the noobs get a hold of it. This is what the guy basically said "What is the one key punch against a southpaw? The right hand". "Now Oscar de la hoya is a southpaw coverted to orthodox I believe, so his right hand is not his power hand". Very good point. Ricky Hatton doesnt have the speed and skills to land a powerful lead right hand on pacquaio from distance. But who has one of the best lead rights of the last decade, Mayweather Jr. One more thing, Mayweather's right hand is about TIMING, which means stepping to the left to line it up waiting for the guy to open up and then he throws it. Timing beats speed, mayweather's timing is unreal. 5) If Mayweather can avoid the left hand lead. Unless mayweather is up close and coming onto pacquiao, would you think pacquaio will be able to land a lead right hook, clean on the chin, then put his head down incase a punch is thrown back, without getting hit back by floyd mayweather? Im not so sure. If he can't, what does pacquiao do next? Not saying Pacquaio has no chance, not saying that at all, its just about having some perspective. Plain and simple,at 140 Pac owns Floyd,if fight wont happen,I'd like to see b***h a$$ Floyd call out guys his own size,Cotto,SSM etc,but Gayweather fans know he wont,to protect record.

There better be no more catchweight BS. Cotto can't make 140 anymore, and If he somehow agrees then he cannot win. Pacquaio will be King at 135-140 for the next year or two easy, but that threshold to 147 has MONSTERS that may just be too big a bite. A guy like Clottey comes in at 170 lbs and can take a hit, Cotto fights in a balanced fashion and can get hit, but is not an easy target like Hatton, add to that he will counter that hook with his own to the body and it will hit its target, Mosley is old but can bang and still has some speed, Berto is great defensively but he is deceptively quick and he can bang... none of these guys would just wilt like Hatton did. I've noticed Pacman has been rocked, huggers may not see it, but JMM made him squint a couple of times, even david diaz when he landed made Pacman have to collect his senses. The guy is human, exceptionally gifted, he will meet his match soon, he's going into deeper waters, eother Roach comes up with some BS plan to weaken his opponent (catch weight) or he steps in with a true elite, whom he hasn't faced since JMM. He barely survived those IMHO. You proved you are an ignorant hater with the bolded lines in your post. Berto great with his deffense?? Everyone meets their match sooner or later it just depends on how they handel it. He barely survived?? He destroyed Morrales, he destroyed Hatton who did not wilt he got beat down. he was more then game. It wasn't like what happened with Jermain Taylor where hatton was landing and winning the fight with ease and then all of a sudden wilted to the power of a fighter with limited skills of a Carl Froch. That is wilting. PACMAN destroyed a top level fighter in Hatton give him credit. He destroyed Morrales give him credit. He destroyed Diaz destroyed him took him apart and KHTFO. You are a hater and you don't know what you are talking about. Fighters will go where the money is if the money is at a cath weight of 143-144 Cotto and others will try to make that weight. You will see Mayweather fight JMM at a catch weight of 143 and if he wins maybe we will get PACMAN MONEY at the same catch weight....Lefty

Cotto-Pacquiao? at what weight? at 140lbs Cotto needs to chop off one of his arms. Will it be at 147? There better be no more catchweight BS. Cotto can't make 140 anymore, and If he somehow agrees then he cannot win. Pacquaio will be King at 135-140 for the next year or two easy, but that threshold to 147 has MONSTERS that may just be too big a bite. A guy like Clottey comes in at 170 lbs and can take a hit, Cotto fights in a balanced fashion and can get hit, but is not an easy target like Hatton, add to that he will counter that hook with his own to the body and it will hit its target, Mosley is old but can bang and still has some speed, Berto is great defensively but he is deceptively quick and he can bang... none of these guys would just wilt like Hatton did. I've noticed Pacman has been rocked, huggers may not see it, but JMM made him squint a couple of times, even david diaz when he landed made Pacman have to collect his senses. The guy is human, exceptionally gifted, he will meet his match soon, he's going into deeper waters, eother Roach comes up with some BS plan to weaken his opponent (catch weight) or he steps in with a true elite, whom he hasn't faced since JMM. He barely survived those IMHO.

Homie you sound like and angry Floyd fan taht was hoping Hatton would do Mayweather's dirty work for him. This way Floyd could have come back against JMM beat him decisvely and then rematched Hatton and fought against a fighter he already beat. This way everyone would say PACMAN had trouble with JMM Mayweather beat him easily. PACMAN lost decison to HAtton and Floyd beat him two times. Floyd is GOD....P4P Champ...Well unfortunately the little PACMONSTER left hatton with a whole in the right side of his face where that left hand landed and he is looking to land a few of those against your boy if Floyd is man enough to get in there with him. But Floyd will probably ask for a ridiculous amount of $$$$$ claiming that he is the real draw and he should get 20mil or some crazy number and that PACMAN needs him. This will prompt Arum to match Cotto and PACMAN rather then the fight everyone really wants to see...Lefty Cotto-Pacquiao? at what weight? at 140lbs Cotto needs to chop off one of his arms. Will it be at 147?

Homie you sound like and angry Floyd fan taht was hoping Hatton would do Mayweather's dirty work for him. This way Floyd could have come back against JMM beat him decisvely and then rematched Hatton and fought against a fighter he already beat. This way everyone would say PACMAN had trouble with JMM Mayweather beat him easily. PACMAN lost decison to HAtton and Floyd beat him two times. Floyd is GOD....P4P Champ...Well unfortunately the little PACMONSTER left hatton with a whole in the right side of his face where that left hand landed and he is looking to land a few of those against your boy if Floyd is man enough to get in there with him. But Floyd will probably ask for a ridiculous amount of $$$$$ claiming that he is the real draw and he should get 20mil or some crazy number and that PACMAN needs him. This will prompt Arum to match Cotto and PACMAN rather then the fight everyone really wants to see...Lefty Cotto-Pacquiao? at what weight? at 140lbs Cotto needs to chop off one of his arms. Will it be at 147?