Now I know why Oscar was so light for the fight against Pacquiao...

Most people weigh over the weight limit during training period, now if he was constantly weighing under the limit before the weigh in proves his body was ****ed...

because dlh didn't want people to say that he won just because he was the bigger fighter. duh. dlh did it because of pride and overconfidence. he thought he was still gonna be the bigger guy and be able to bully pac around. yeah, but if a dehydrated oscar beat pac, it would be because of skill and heart... same as a dehydrated nate campbell beating ali funeka. nate got huge props for winning that fight... so would dlh. 2 reason: to prove that he can beat pac because of skills not becaues he's the bigger man. also dlh is greedy and if he didn't make weight pac got money from his purse. no, he thought he could still beat pac even tho he was dehydrated. he bought into the myth that he was bigger and there was no way pac could beat him. it got nothing to do with speed... it has to do with pride and money. most boxing experts thought dlh was gonna win... that was conventional wisdom. oscar and his team bought into it team dlh thought if dlh could maintain that weight throughout training camp that dlh would be used to fighting at that weight. that was a faulty hypothesis. pretty weight-drained. don't use the Lord's name in vain I was going to reply to every single one of your little comments, but I'm not going to waste my time replying to such a poor rebuttal... If anyone thinks that above post is a good rebuttal well than I don't even need to consider their pathetic existence...

Why would he come in so much under 147 when he knew Manny would be pretty much on point at that weight (because Manny doesn't have to cut any weight for that weight)? because dlh didn't want people to say that he won just because he was the bigger fighter. duh. It doesn't make sense for a old fighter who already would have trouble making weight cut purposefully come under to prove a pointless point that he could be a smaller fighter while weighing 2-3 lbs less. dlh did it because of pride and overconfidence. he thought he was still gonna be the bigger guy and be able to bully pac around. Now, do you really think that makes sense? Regardless of how much Oscar was lighter than Manny on weigh in, people would have considered Oscar the bigger fighter ANYWAYS. yeah, but if a dehydrated oscar beat pac, it would be because of skill and heart... same as a dehydrated nate campbell beating ali funeka. nate got huge props for winning that fight... so would dlh. And tell me, one of you geniuses. Stop dodging this question: WHY WOULD OSCAR, WHO WAS ON WEIGHT THE ENTIRE TRAINING CAMP, SUDDENLY PUT THAT MUCH EFFORST INTO COMING IN UNDER WEIGHT? 2 reason: to prove that he can beat pac because of skills not becaues he's the bigger man. also dlh is greedy and if he didn't make weight pac got money from his purse. WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE COULD HE HAVE BY DOING SO? SPEED, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? no, he thought he could still beat pac even tho he was dehydrated. he bought into the myth that he was bigger and there was no way pac could beat him. SO IF ANYONE TAKES 3 POUNDS OFF THEY WOULD BE MUCH QUICKER THAN THEY ARE CURRENTLY? it got nothing to do with speed... it has to do with pride and money. OR IF YOU ARGUE THAT THAT WAS JUST A MISTAKE ON OSCAR'S CAMP, THAT DOESN'T MAKES SENSE EITHER COMING FROM A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN BOXING FOR SO LONG. most boxing experts thought dlh was gonna win... that was conventional wisdom. oscar and his team bought into it ALSO, HE WAS AROUND 145 FOR THE ENTIRE TRAINING CAMP. HOW MUCH "WEIGHT DRAINED" DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE CUTTING AN EXTRA 3 POUNDS?? HUH!?!? team dlh thought if dlh could maintain that weight throughout training camp that dlh would be used to fighting at that weight. that was a faulty hypothesis. 3 FUKING POUNDS. HE WAS ON WEIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME. HOW MUCH WEIGHT DRAINED DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE!? pretty weight-drained. JESUS FUKING CHRIST.... don't use the Lord's name in vain

Hahaha, now I'm accused of having alts. Great. Listen you keep thinking scenarios in your head if it makes you feel better, man. Just to let you know, I didn't even bother reading your mindless long ass post. I get it, you're defending Pacquiao. He is a great fighter, but the DLH he fought isn't something to base his performance on. Give it a rest. ................................................................................................................................ hahaha? lol, you are even dumber than I thought. wow.... should i even respond.... you told me that there are many "people" who think I have no basis.... so I said there are five of those people..... I'm sorry I didn't write to your 2nd grade level reading comprehension ha..... ha.... ha...... :crackhead

keep ignoring that question...

Look man, it's simple; more than one person on here thinks you're the person that shouldn't be posting anymore. Maybe it's time for a new account. Next time, don't try to blame a fighter for trying to find excuses when the "excuses" are actually valid and legitimate. Good day. There are about five of you. And from readind your posts, you guys are less than admirable in the intelligence department, so no thanks.

I don't think filipinos are stupid, in fact I know for a fact that filipinos aren't stupid. But you do make a compelling case. wow, you got me there buddy :rolleyes:

it was for exactly what is happening. To say that as an excuse if he were to lose the fight. It all makes sense, Oscar showed himself under 147 numerous times in 24/7 and talked about his weight (how low it was) many times in interviews leading up to the fight. Even though he probably thought he could win, being the kind of person that he has become he needed a scapegoat in case he did lose. Remember, at the weigh-ins, something odd happened. Pacquiao weighed himself before coming out (like all fighters do) but weighed 2 pounds or so less than the scale in the back. This tells me that Oscar not only came in weighing less than Manny deliberately, he also had his people manipulate the scale to accentuate his under weight condition. It worked perfectly, nearly everyone believes, that Oscar's weight played a big part in his loss. Hell, even Pac fans are tricked into believing it was all about Oscar's dehydration and no Pac's performance. I don't think filipinos are stupid, in fact I know for a fact that filipinos aren't stupid. But you do make a compelling case.

And tell me, one of you geniuses. Stop dodging this question: WHY WOULD OSCAR, WHO WAS ON WEIGHT THE ENTIRE TRAINING CAMP, SUDDENLY PUT THAT MUCH EFFORST INTO COMING IN UNDER WEIGHT? WHAT POSSIBLE ADVANTAGE COULD HE HAVE BY DOING SO? SPEED, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? SO IF ANYONE TAKES 3 POUNDS OFF THEY WOULD BE MUCH QUICKER THAN THEY ARE CURRENTLY? OR IF YOU ARGUE THAT THAT WAS JUST A MISTAKE ON OSCAR'S CAMP, THAT DOESN'T MAKES SENSE EITHER COMING FROM A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN BOXING FOR SO LONG. ALSO, HE WAS AROUND 145 FOR THE ENTIRE TRAINING CAMP. HOW MUCH "WEIGHT DRAINED" DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE CUTTING AN EXTRA 3 POUNDS?? HUH!?!? 3 FUKING POUNDS. HE WAS ON WEIGHT THE ENTIRE TIME. HOW MUCH WEIGHT DRAINED DO YOU THINK HE WOULD BE!? JESUS FUKING CHRIST....

oscar came in light because he wanted to prove that he could beat pac on equal terms based on his boxing ability not because he was the bigger guy. hatton has gone the opposite way and said he wants to win because he is the bigger guy not because of his boxing ability. Why would he come in so much under 147 when he knew Manny would be pretty much on point at that weight (because Manny doesn't have to cut any weight for that weight)? It doesn't make sense for a old fighter who already would have trouble making weight cut purposefully come under to prove a pointless point that he could be a smaller fighter while weighing 2-3 lbs less. Now, do you really think that makes sense? Regardless of how much Oscar was lighter than Manny on weigh in, people would have considered Oscar the bigger fighter ANYWAYS.

Here's one; you "theory" that DLH purposely made himself look underweight, "weight drained" to lose the fight makes absolutely no sense. Why? Because you're implying that he does it for the money. Read a little more and you'd know he pretty much owns his own boxing promotional company. Find out how much made in PPV's alone and exactly why everyone and their grandmothers know about him. I am not saying anything in terms of could have, would have, or should have, but he came in to fight, mentally, but physically he was not there anymore. Hell even Roach noticed it when he fought Pacquiao. Maybe you can go write those novels that lead to no where and only end up wasting your time. Wow, for a second I really thought you wrote something meaningful there with all that bolding and quotes and the fact that all these cheerleaderes were cheering you on. 1. I didn't say DLH purposefully made himself look trained TO LOSE the fight. YOU are telling ME to READ?!!? I said this was his SCAPEGOAT IN CASE he LOST. Of course if he was only planning to earn money and not win a fight he could have done without getting completely humiliated on TV. But he wanted an excuse IN CASE he didn't win. 2. WHERE, WHERE did I say he did it for money? One guy accused me of the same thing in this thread out of nowhere and I told him that he didn't lose in PURPOSE. FOR THE 100TH TIME, IN CASE HE LOST. And I told him if HE DID IN FACT DO IT FOR THE MONEY, WHATS WRONG WITH JUST TAKING A 20 MILLION PAYCHECK. 3. Who the fuk doesn't know OSCAR "GOLDEN BOY" DE LA HOYA owns "GOLDEN BODY PROMOTIONS."? Do you have READ for that? None of you comments following this has any meaning because I DIDN'T say he LOSE IN PURPOSE. Roach said, Roach said, Roach said..... If you had half the brain you would realize that Roach was just in a sense talking trash. When he says he saw fresh IV marks on Oscar, he doesn't literally mean that Oscar was not unable to fight. It was a way of saying you should have came no less than 100% condition to have a chance to beat us. Try thinking with your tiny brain for once. Which statement do you think has more merit, "when I saw fresh IV marks, I knew he was finished," or "I think of it as Pacquiao having a good night rather than Oscar having bad one." Both are comments from Raoch (may not be word for word because its from memory). You shouldn't ever write novels, because it would not make any sense...

no, you got yourself. and didn't I also said that the weight condition is a factor but not the sole reason why DLH loss to Pac? take it easy man.... you're making yourself look bad by trying to make me seem bad, a retard... so to speak in your choice of words. You gotta be kidding me.... First, you told me I contradicted myself and posted like you had some kind of victory because I said "I know Roach said those things...," obviously you didn't know what I meant because you thought I contradicted myself. Roach did say those things, but it was all with flow of the moment of making fun of Oscar on how he could not manage his weight at this stage of his career with all that experience and expect to beat a top notch fighter like Pacquiao in such condition. What I mean by moment of things is that everyone was talking how ridiculous it was for Oscar to be in such condition for the fight. And you said the weight was the sole condition only AFTER I ridiculed you. You didn't say anything about it not being the sole factor before. In fact your little "weight wasn't the sole factor" post was posted right before the one I'm quoting, and after my last post last night of which many ridiculed you for talking as if the weight WAS the sole factor. YOU FAIL.

it was for exactly what is happening. To say that as an excuse if he were to lose the fight. It all makes sense, Oscar showed himself under 147 numerous times in 24/7 and talked about his weight (how low it was) many times in interviews leading up to the fight. Even though he probably thought he could win, being the kind of person that he has become he needed a scapegoat in case he did lose. Remember, at the weigh-ins, something odd happened. Pacquiao weighed himself before coming out (like all fighters do) but weighed 2 pounds or so less than the scale in the back. This tells me that Oscar not only came in weighing less than Manny deliberately, he also had his people manipulate the scale to accentuate his under weight condition. It worked perfectly, nearly everyone believes, that Oscar's weight played a big part in his loss. Hell, even Pac fans are tricked into believing it was all about Oscar's dehydration and no Pac's performance. oscar came in light because he wanted to prove that he could beat pac on equal terms based on his boxing ability not because he was the bigger guy. hatton has gone the opposite way and said he wants to win because he is the bigger guy not because of his boxing ability.

Who cares? DLH is old news. He deserved that ass whoopin.

Well, Thank you.... :D you're welcome...and you deserve it for talking with much sense.

Now...take a look at this... This is how a normal person make posts... simple...but makes a lot of sense. Based on reality...and well executed with objectivity. Well, Thank you.... :D

Delahoya's team strategy on that fight was all wrong. Can you imagine how stupid they we're? They actually thought if they can make Delahoya weight that low they could outspeed the Pacman. Speed difference was the big factor why Manny beat the shit out of Oskee that night. Now...take a look at this... This is how a normal person make posts... simple...but makes a lot of sense. Based on reality...and well executed with objectivity.

Delahoya's team strategy on that fight was all wrong. Can you imagine how stupid they we're? They actually thought if they can make Delahoya weight that low they could outspeed the Pacman. Speed difference was the big factor why Manny beat the shit out of Oskee that night.

Here's one; you "theory" that DLH purposely made himself look underweight, "weight drained" to lose the fight makes absolutely no sense. Why? Because you're implying that he does it for the money. Read a little more and you'd know he pretty much owns his own boxing promotional company. Find out how much made in PPV's alone and exactly why everyone and their grandmothers know about him. I am not saying anything in terms of could have, would have, or should have, but he came in to fight, mentally, but physically he was not there anymore. Hell even Roach noticed it when he fought Pacquiao. Maybe you can go write those novels that lead to no where and only end up wasting your time. co-sign this post.......end of thread

What.... the..... fuk..... is this forum full of mentally retarded people? I said I know Roach said those things, but he also said that Pac had more to do with the win than Oscar's weight condition. Holy fuking shit, I can't believe how dumb this muther fuker is. And he actually thinks he got me... what the fuk... no, you got yourself. and didn't I also said that the weight condition is a factor but not the sole reason why DLH loss to Pac? take it easy man.... you're making yourself look bad by trying to make me seem bad, a retard... so to speak in your choice of words.