Why wouldn't Hatton be p4p no.1?

P4p ain't an interchangeable title like a belt. Don't get the # of threads this topic has gotten lately.

But if Hatton puts in a very good performance vs Manny that will mean he has put in 2 good performances in a row, add that to his Castillo and Tyszu wins and he's got to be up there. You look at the other fighters who can claim the title Hopkins? As you say you have to be consistant which Hopkins has not been in the last 3-4 years. JMM? 2 losses in last 3 years, including one to the current champ If Hatton wins while i agree it's not clear cut but there simply won't be a stand out p4p no.1, if Hatton was to go on and win another big fight he'd be no.1 without doubt. You're kind of forgetting how he struggled with Lazcano a fighter who's way past his prime considering that Lazcano was just a contender, he also did not look to good against Urango, he was blown out by Floyd which was a no brainer and he also has a controversial victory over Collazo in another fight that he looked pretty outboxed.

Def not number one, he hasnt fought enough good fighters in his career. Top 5 maybe at max if he beats manny, Manny deserves to be up there

there was a thread about this topic some time ago.... i can see hatton being above marquez, no matter the number, for the simple fact as hatton said today, "he's about to beat a guy marquez lost to TWICE."

It takes more than just a string of victories, it also has to do by how great you look in those victories. yes and hatton has looked good in all his victories, people say he looked shit against lazcano and while he didn't look brilliant he still only lost 2 or so round.

This is an interesting topic. What about the manner of his win, if hatton wins? For example, what IF (speaking hypothetically here), its a complete shutout and he dominates Manny, the same way Manny dominated oscar? Surely dmonating the current p4p #1 would be enough reason for him to claim that title? i think then Pacquiao's own credentials have to be re-examined temporarily and have a bit of a reshuffle Vazquez, the Marquez bros, Hopkins... Hell, even Mosley, Calderon and Cotto would find themselves higher than before

If Hatton wins while i agree it's not clear cut but there simply won't be a stand out p4p no.1, if Hatton was to go on and win another big fight he'd be no.1 without doubt. i agree with that.:trink26: :boxing::boxing::boxing:

It takes more than just a string of victories, it also has to do by how great you look in those victories.

Pound for pound is not a belt.When you beat the best it means the best has gone down the rankings but you need to beat more to prove you are the real thing.Mind you when Hatton wins (if),you now compare Hatton to the JMM,Mosley,BHop,Vazquez and every other boxer.If you say Hatton is better than everyone then he would be number one,in this case he wont be because he would still need to beat more quality fighters to get that status But if Hatton puts in a very good performance vs Manny that will mean he has put in 2 good performances in a row, add that to his Castillo and Tyszu wins and he's got to be up there. You look at the other fighters who can claim the title Hopkins? As you say you have to be consistant which Hopkins has not been in the last 3-4 years. JMM? 2 losses in last 3 years, including one to the current champ If Hatton wins while i agree it's not clear cut but there simply won't be a stand out p4p no.1, if Hatton was to go on and win another big fight he'd be no.1 without doubt.

This is an interesting topic. What about the manner of his win, if hatton wins? For example, what IF (speaking hypothetically here), its a complete shutout and he dominates Manny, the same way Manny dominated oscar? Surely dmonating the current p4p #1 would be enough reason for him to claim that title? thats what i posted in this thread, and all the pacman huggers/ricky haters, hit me with verbal abuse. lol http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265539&highlight=over-rated+manny!!!!

Hatton is down there in the rankings.Beating Manny will move him up a bit but not that much.He would need to perform consistantly well over a long time to be pound for pound number one.He would need about 3-5 fights doing good work to get to number one. Hatton did win his fight after Floyd,that was against a restaurent waiter who had retired and he really had to fight hard to win that fight.Paulie wasnt a Mayweather either.To be pound for pound number one takes a lot. Manny will lose his spot if he loses but the replacement wont be Hatton. Perform consistantly? He's lost 1 fight and that was to the best who is now retired, JMM is hardly a nailed on for the spot, if he goes above Pacman just because Hatton beat him it will be a joke. If Hatton beats Manny by say, battering him for 7 rounds and then koing him, he'll be no.1. All fighters/promoters seem to agree, the only people to disagree seem to be the people on here. because pacquiao beat marquez.de la hoya.and morales for that spot hatton just beat pacquiao and maggalni yea and none of them were at the time p4p no.1, whereas manny is. de la hoya was hardly a fighter on that night lets be honest.

Hatton is down there in the rankings.Beating Manny will move him up a bit but not that much.He would need to perform consistantly well over a long time to be pound for pound number one.He would need about 3-5 fights doing good work to get to number one. Hatton did win his fight after Floyd,that was against a restaurent waiter who had retired and he really had to fight hard to win that fight.Paulie wasnt a Mayweather either.To be pound for pound number one takes a lot. Manny will lose his spot if he loses but the replacement wont be Hatton. probably one of the few posters on here who actually makes a decent argument when he post. ty sir. tired of all the pointless, dont no shit about boxing flamers, that come on this site.

because he's simply no where near the best boxer in the sport he gets a temporary top 5 place out of respect for his win, but once the real top dogs get back to work he will fall fast i imagine You don't seem to understand how it works. If you beat the best you are the best. Paul Malignaggi Juan Lazcano Jose Luis Castillo Juan Urango Luis Collazo Carlos Maussa Kostya Tszyu Is a decent list of wins to have on your profile, add Manny to that and you're going to be up near the top.

This is an interesting topic. What about the manner of his win, if hatton wins? For example, what IF (speaking hypothetically here), its a complete shutout and he dominates Manny, the same way Manny dominated oscar? Surely dmonating the current p4p #1 would be enough reason for him to claim that title?

because he's simply no where near the best boxer in the sport he gets a temporary top 5 place out of respect for his win, but once the real top dogs get back to work he will fall fast i imagine