Since Kostya:
looked shit v Maussa (journeyman)
looked even shitter getting slapped by Collazo
thought he was in WWE v Urango
looked good v Castillo
got schooled and ko'd v Mayweather
struggled v Lazcano who had been retired nearly two years
looked good beating feather fisted Maliggnagi
So even if he does beat a former flyweight who is fighting for the first time at 140 (im not putting too much emphasis on DLH win) how does that make him p4p#1? Am i the only person who thinks he should beat the other champs at 140 first or at least Timothy Bradley before we even talk like that?
That's a bold statement.
So if Hatton beats - Pacquaio, Marquez, and then maybe Bradley, he wouldn't be the best fighter in the world?
Looking at the thread title again...
How the **** does Hatton become p4p#1 even if he does beat Pac?
Makes me wonder how it suddenly changed to beating Pacquiao, Marquez, and Bradley.
If he were to beat those names you could certainly make a case for Hatton deserving the top spot or being very close to it, but take into account that two of those names are coming up from lower divisions. It takes some of the shine off an established 140lb fighter beating them. No matter what their P4P status says, they are two unproven fighters at 140 who haven't done anything there.
Another thing -- the return of Floyd Mayweather would certainly throw a spanner in the works. Since we're talking "WHAT IF", what if Mayweather fights and beats Marquez? If they fight, Floyd will win, you can pretty much bank on it. And if he does, I don't see Hatton fighting Marquez coming off a loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Bradley would be a solid win, but significantly less meaningful when you're talking about fighting the P4P #1 and #2.
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he's gotta beat pac and jmm and then either floyd/cotto/mosley...
then I'd say hatton is p4p #1.
but 1 stipulation... hatton can't win it with a grappling/hugging style he's got to win with class and with real boxing skills.
:lame: as i said before, if hatton beat Pac and then JMM only HATERS will not have him #1.
I don't otherwise give a shit about p4p, but IMO if he really wanted that spot he'd have to beat Pac, JMM, Floyd and Bradley to number 1. Then I'd say good on him.
But until that impossible event(s) happens, I often have a hard time even acknowledging him as the best guy at 140.
he's gotta beat pac and jmm and then either floyd/cotto/mosley...
then I'd say hatton is p4p #1.
but 1 stipulation... hatton can't win it with a grappling/hugging style he's got to win with class and with real boxing skills.
Pac, then Marquez would be enough for me.
I said if he beats Pac and then JMM.
he's gotta beat pac and jmm and then either floyd/cotto/mosley...
then I'd say hatton is p4p #1.
but 1 stipulation... hatton can't win it with a grappling/hugging style he's got to win with class and with real boxing skills.
You don't need to be Oscar De La Hoya or own the RING mag to know how the rankings work. Hatton will never be P4P #1.
That's a bold statement.
So if Hatton beats - Pacquaio, Marquez, and then maybe Bradley, he wouldn't be the best fighter in the world?
Its starting to grate on me how Hatton keeps harping on about being motivated to beat Pac coz he wants the #1 spot, what a joke.
So your saying its wrong that a boxer should aim to be the number 1. You can guarentee that if Hatton wins and does not get to no 1 p4p in the ring magazine for eg, he will go after a fight with who ever will help him on his way to the no 1 spot. I know it sounds a bit repettitive and most boxing observers realise hes not going to be no 1 p4p after this fight but it hypes it up amongst casual fan. Hattons attitude and commitment to win should be applauded not criticised.
Why won't he?
Because it's based on more than one accomplishment. Do you really need it to be explained?
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IF Hatton beats Pacquiao, he'll be shocked when he discovers he isn't in the top spot.
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You don't need to be Oscar De La Hoya or own the RING mag to know how the rankings work. Hatton will never be P4P #1.
Why won't he? If he beats Pac and then JMM, only haters will not have him #1.
They haven't told Oscar either because he said that Hatton will be #1 if he beats Pacquiao.
And Oscar owns the RING Magazine. Yikes!!!
I've said it before Hatton will not be #1 P4P, I don't care how he beats Manny and Manny WILL NOT BE the Greatest of All Time if he beats Hatton to a pulp.
Stop the craziness!
im just saying i think oscar knows how the rankings work..and hatton knows if he beats the number 1 guy that makes him #1
You don't need to be Oscar De La Hoya or own the RING mag to know how the rankings work. Hatton will never be P4P #1.
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This is scary. Some people actually think Hatton will be #1 if he beats Pacquiao. Like... Hatton would beat anyone if weight was no issue, because after all, that's what P4P means.
WOW.
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no it wont be the same..hattons already an exstablished champ and has only lost once to the previous p4p king........plus hes already p4p#9....he's a goldenboy fighter and oscar owns the ring so i think hatton knows what hes talking about
Oscar owning The RING is irrelevant. How does that even come into it?
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hatton beats pacman he'll be #1..jmm lost to pacman and will lose to floyd hopkins is about to retire..so floyd and hatton would fight for the #1 spot
lol! tell me you dont believe that.
if pacquiao and marquez both lose which is possible, it just tells me they are too small for 140+, they both looked great at 135 and could rule there but they are stretching it at 140 now. i mean, marquez imo was quite a small lightweight.
why is everyone so damn upset about hatton saying he'll be p4p#1???if he beats the best he is the best
Thats like saying James Buster Douglas was p4p#1 for beating Tyson (shit was he?!)
i don't think hatton can ever be #1 unless he beats mayweather (haha), he was exposed in that fight as not being a full fledged elite fighter.
I completely agree, unless he beats Bradley and also prove that he can move up in weight like most other fighters you'd consider great (i mean its one reason why they are considered great right?) and avenge his loss to Mayweather he can never be p4p#1, i personally dont think he would get past Ortiz