I am a big big fan of Kelly Pavlik as we all know. I am from Youngstown Ohio originally and personally think that the next in line has to be Queen Arthur. Who do u think should be next? Until next time its KO2you :boxing:
Paul Williams.
Arthur Abraham probably should move up to super middleweight and challenge Froch, because he's had serious problems making 160 for his past two fights.
I think if the Pavlik vs. Abraham fight doesn't happen soon that AA will move up. Much agreed he is having a hard time staying at 160lbs. AA and Paul Williams would be a good fight.
ERIC olds exactly who is that back in 2002 ok but, he knocked him out in the 1st round and how does Eric Olds compare to B-Hop???? Its no comparison, Stop hating on Pavlik fact is he is Champ of MW division and until different, He rules that division right now!!!!:fu2:
it wasn't the fact that he fought a lame ass eric olds.. the fat is, you said pavlik never fought anyone at 170 and i showed evidence that he did which is indeed true.. your dumb ass is trying so hard to put pavlik on a pedestal, you're ignoring real shit
he doesn't rule shit, he doesn't fight anyone :op:
take pavlik's dick out your mouth.. if you had your facts straight or had the ability to read you would see that Pavlik fought Eric Olds at 170 pounds in 2002 you dickhead.. taylor was winning the first fight before the ko, and the 2nd fight was pretty close and it sure as hell was not a dominant win for Pavlik.. The fact is Pavlik hasn't really proven himself, and he needs to fight some quality opponents :spank: :op:
ERIC olds exactly who is that back in 2002 ok but, he knocked him out in the 1st round and how does Eric Olds compare to B-Hop???? Its no comparison, Stop hating on Pavlik fact is he is Champ of MW division and until different, He rules that division right now!!!!:fu2:
Get your facts straight before you come barking. Other than B-Hop Pavlik has fought NO ONE at 170 lbs. He fought in 2004 at 168 1/2 lbs and at 168 in 2005. Thats the highest besides B-hop. Fact is weather Taylor was winning on the scorecards or not was only through 7 rounds so if the fight would have continued in the first fight he wasn't losing by much and surely was coming back before Taylor was KTFO by Pavlik. Second fight was at a catch weight and Taylor looked better but was never winning. Oh by the way go to this web site before you start barking about him fighting at 170 lbs on more than one occasion. :owned::crackhead
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=015844&cat=boxer
take pavlik's dick out your mouth.. if you had your facts straight or had the ability to read you would see that Pavlik fought Eric Olds at 170 pounds in 2002 you dickhead.. taylor was winning the first fight before the ko, and the 2nd fight was pretty close and it sure as hell was not a dominant win for Pavlik.. The fact is Pavlik hasn't really proven himself, and he needs to fight some quality opponents :spank: :op:
GTFOH
what has he done besides beat taylor? last time i checked, taylor was beating him on the scorecards in their first fight and was knocked down himself before stopping taylor, and taylor could of easily won the 2nd fight.. so after that, he fought lockett (bum) and rubio (c- fighter).... and a 43 year old hopkins torched his ass.. and the weight excuse doesnt work because pavlik has fought at 170 before, on more than one occasion.. Pavlik has yet to prove himself, he hasnt really done anything and it looks like he isnt going to fight anyone good.. his promoter is going to continue to match him up with bums.. Sergio Mora?? HAHA GTFOH
Get your facts straight before you come barking. Other than B-Hop Pavlik has fought NO ONE at 170 lbs. He fought in 2004 at 168 1/2 lbs and at 168 in 2005. Thats the highest besides B-hop. Fact is weather Taylor was winning on the scorecards or not was only through 7 rounds so if the fight would have continued in the first fight he wasn't losing by much and surely was coming back before Taylor was KTFO by Pavlik. Second fight was at a catch weight and Taylor looked better but was never winning. Oh by the way go to this web site before you start barking about him fighting at 170 lbs on more than one occasion. :owned::crackhead
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=015844&cat=boxer
Try to Prove himself???? :wtf1: He is the CHAMPION of 160 lb division, question is who should he fight after Mora not does he have to prove himself. Until next time its KO2you :boxing:
GTFOH
what has he done besides beat taylor? last time i checked, taylor was beating him on the scorecards in their first fight and was knocked down himself before stopping taylor, and taylor could of easily won the 2nd fight.. so after that, he fought lockett (bum) and rubio (c- fighter).... and a 43 year old hopkins torched his ass.. and the weight excuse doesnt work because pavlik has fought at 170 before, on more than one occasion.. Pavlik has yet to prove himself, he hasnt really done anything and it looks like he isnt going to fight anyone good.. his promoter is going to continue to match him up with bums.. Sergio Mora?? HAHA GTFOH
I know Sergio Mora shound't be getting the next shot at his Title's. The logic answer on who should Pavlik should fight next is Arthur Abraham, that is the fight everyone wants to see.
But talks up to now haven't come to a agreement. And the way Abraham is struggling and draining himself to make the Middlweight limt, he may very well have to move up to 168.
And Strum seems rather happy just defending his Title against D level oppostion.
Anthony Mudine claims if he gets past Daniel Geale and Pavlik gets past Mora, that fight is in line to take place, which is a fight I would like to see, if the Abraham fight can't be made.
It should be Abraham.
Once Kelly beats him he may start getting some respect back. :boxing:
Can't disagree with that, except that its a shame that just cause he lost to BHop that a lot of people lost respect for him and doesn't make sense to me. Pavlik fought an older and more talented, veteran and loss. It happens to others but they seem to think its ok. Example Hatton vs. Pretty Boy, Hatton lost but not the respect, then he fights Malignaggi ( Absolutely crap boxer, MR. showboat and wanna be GQ boy) but loses no respect for fighting a CHUMP!!!! Until next time its KO2you :boxing:
Pavlik should try to prove himself at 160
Try to Prove himself???? :wtf1: He is the CHAMPION of 160 lb division, question is who should he fight after Mora not does he have to prove himself. Until next time its KO2you :boxing:
Froch is bigger and it would be a dangerous fight. But im not so sure about some of that. I want to see him agaisnt another solid fighter, on the big stage a few more times.
I just have to disagree on the variety of punches.
Pavlik mainly throws 1 2's( which isn't bad against certain styles) and Ive never seen him use consistent use of a left hook or an uppercut( only occasionally) where as Froch has a left hook, uppercut( his best punch) and he throws them from all angles.
Froch may not be that fast although his timing makes up for it, and Ive seen many of his earlier fights where he actually used the ring effectively against opponents. One of the many differences between Froch and Pavlik is that Kelly moves in a straight line and he does not have the variety of punches that Froch has. He is faster but not as big nor a counter puncher the way Froch is.
Froch is bigger and it would be a dangerous fight. But im not so sure about some of that. I want to see him agaisnt another solid fighter, on the big stage a few more times.
I just have to disagree on the variety of punches.
Good points... A Bika fight does sound much better when you put it like that.
:fing02: This fight would be a war, definitely one i would pay to see. I like Pavlik's straighter punches and accuracy over Bika's toughness and power but either way, its definitely a fight i would watch, and i don't see how its going the distance. Both punch too hard and both comes forward.
Hes fighting Sergio Mora right now, and Bika is a very good fighter and very strong. That fight has the potential to be as good as Miranda/Pavlik because both can bang, both have world class chins and both have very good stamina, and neither has been stopped. That fight IMO is definitely one that the fans will appreciate, because Bika gave Calzaghe hell and hes also a champion( and won the contender)
Good points... A Bika fight does sound much better when you put it like that.
Froch just seems like a very bad style match up to me. Kelly is not a lateral mover the way Jermaine is, he will coming forward against a naturally bigger fighter who's a counter puncher and more elusive.
The style match up wouldn't favor Pavlik's abilities, but I still wouldn't mind seeing the fight.