Going up and down in weights and beating the best fighters in the world, the man won his first title at flyweight, and has went as high as welterweight. The man is a true throwback he has done sam langford, origonal joe walcot and henry armstrong proud who were also great fighters who liked to take on the bigger fighters. When you look at other all time greats who could of but didnt move up fighter's such as hagler, monzon, naseem hamed, tony zale, you see why what manny is doing is really something special.
Diaz is a journeyman who was given a title shot to let Morales win a title to set up further superfights.
Oscar was more shot than JFK.
Diaz was not a journey man. He only had one lose. He was WBc champion .
Get it straight boxrec boy.
You wanna know who was a journeyman, Juan Lascano. And he almost KO'ed your boy.
Pac jumped up 3 arguablly # weight classes against a heavily favorite Oscar DelaHoya.
He outboxed him.
Oscar fought back throwing more than 400 punches but Pac wa to ellusive and made him missed...so your weightdrained excuse is a moot.
Lol at this fool calling a young WBC champion with ONLY ONE LOSS a journeyman.
So according to some of you here, who is the best lb. for lb. boxer today?
The consensus 2nd is JMM, and I have no problem with some having him at #1, even though I don't think his resume compares to MP's.
Since MP is the lb. for lb. king, how can he actually be overrated? He is the best boxer today. What else should he do to make some of you happy? Should he have fought Guzman? What about Valero? When did fighting those two ammount to a better challenge than MAB, EM, and JMM for a total of 7 fights become overrated at anything?
YOu guys should just come out and say the Pac maniacs annoy the **** outa you so you want to discredit Pac. One day Pac will be on the decline and you can talk all the shit to the annoying Pac fans. That would trully make some of you happy. To see his fans in anguish.
See, that statement above makes more sense than labeling MP as overrated.
No mean exactly that, he's a journeman, he's not a contender, he's had one Title fight where he was purely there to lose, to give a name fighter a strap to make HBO money.
look at the h=guy's resume, no names and bums, the only other decent fighter he has fought was Holt who KHTFO in 8 rounds.
He's a journeyman, he has a majority draw with Ramazan Palyani, the one scorecard not a draw was 1 round in favour of Palyani.
you have very high standards if you think diaz is a journeyman, do you know just how hard boxing is? as i said before your throwing that jouneyman tag round like were talking about mathew hatton. i will just remind you were talking about a former 1996 olympian who beat zab judah to get his place on the team, former wbc champion who holds a win over all time great erick morales
Diaz is a journeyman who was given a title shot to let Morales win a title to set up further superfights.
Oscar was more shot than JFK.
diaz was a set up fight to get oscar.
manny doesn't controll oscar's training camp.
So are we really gonna discredit Manny Pac's accomplishments now?
Some of you people are incredible.I'm Happy to give him all the credit in the world upto 130, and huge credit if he beats hatton (which i predict he will) but nuthuggers need to except reality on the Diaz and ODLH front they are NOT great wins.
You misunderstood him.
What he's saying is that Pacquiao made Diaz look like a journeyman.No mean exactly that, he's a journeman, he's not a contender, he's had one Title fight where he was purely there to lose, to give a name fighter a strap to make HBO money.
look at the h=guy's resume, no names and bums, the only other decent fighter he has fought was Holt who KHTFO in 8 rounds.
He's a journeyman, he has a majority draw with Ramazan Palyani, the one scorecard not a draw was 1 round in favour of Palyani.
Diaz a journeyman?? wtf a wbc champion who had beat erick morales went the 96 olympics, is no jouneyman.
You misunderstood him.
What he's saying is that Pacquiao made Diaz look like a journeyman.
Diaz is a journeyman who was given a title shot to let Morales win a title to set up further superfights.
Oscar was more shot than JFK.
Diaz a journeyman?? wtf a wbc champion who had beat erick morales went the 96 olympics, is no jouneyman.
Diaz is a journeyman who was given a title shot to let Morales win a title to set up further superfights.
Oscar was more shot than JFK.
Stop geting carried away your throwing that jouneyman tag round when it should be saved for hatton's bother mathew. And if were gonna talk about fighters been finished when they were betting favouites, we can take away alot fighters great wins such as barry m win over pedroza, basillo over robinson i could go on all day! it was a great win for pacman and at the end of the day he become only the 2nd ever man to stop oscar which is incredible when the other fighter to do it was now lightheavyweight bernard hopkins
When Manny beats the living crap out of Hatton in Hatton's very own weight division, you better retract and give him credit because according to you, Hatton is half God, half cyborg.Why don't you go and read my Pac Vs hatton prediction thread dickhead.
Here let me link it for your retard ass.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264131
diaz was a world champion, oscar a all time great who was betting favouriteDiaz is a journeyman who was given a title shot to let Morales win a title to set up further superfights.
Oscar was more shot than JFK.
Pac is the man and has been for quite a while now. Hes had his legacy fights agaisnt the 3 amigos and now he went for his money fights against de la hoya and hatton. Pure class. :wave: