So if Pacman defeats Hitman May 2nd, up to that point who has had the better career & who would you rank higher all time?
Personally, I would have to vote Pacman based on body of work, quality of opposition, and more lineal titles at the various weight classes.
5 division in a 9 years undefeated..
most of pacman's resume were past prime fighters or not clear cut victories.
not to hate either
in my opinon, pac's best victories are against barrera the 1st fight, and the marquez fights.. and i along with many others thought marquez won both those fights against pacman.. how does pac get credit for beating zombie de la hoya and pbf doesnt when they were at a higher weight and pbf had to concede to everything? its hatred.. pac gets credit for beating a faded morales and barerra (2nd fight) and has life and death matches with marquez, beats a zombie, and a contender in diaz and all the sudden he shoots pass mayweather for atg great rankings?? nah sorry i cant go with that
Floyds best wins are De la hoto an Fatton an they got both got stop by PACMAN in a more impresive way!!!
How old was Pacman when he weighed 106, he was 16
Floyd at 16 was also fighting at 106
If you're going to use the Floyd was also 106 at 16yrs old excuse to discredit Pacman then I am going to say Floyd's undefeated record you cherish so much is completely invalid as well because Floyd has lost in the amateurs.
Floyd at 16 was also fighting at 106
How sure are you Mayweather was 106 lbs when he was 16 y/o??????? can you post a link to this.....
I havent seen a 16 y/o black man who weighs 106 lbs
5 division in a 9 years undefeated..
most of pacman's resume were past prime fighters or not clear cut victories.
not to hate either
in my opinon, pac's best victories are against barrera the 1st fight, and the marquez fights.. and i along with many others thought marquez won both those fights against pacman.. how does pac get credit for beating zombie de la hoya and pbf doesnt when they were at a higher weight and pbf had to concede to everything? its hatred.. pac gets credit for beating a faded morales and barerra (2nd fight) and has life and death matches with marquez, beats a zombie, and a contender in diaz and all the sudden he shoots pass mayweather for atg great rankings?? nah sorry i cant go with that
Pacquiao definatly. Based off pretty much what everyone else has brought up. Although I'd still have to compare Pacquiao's W and Floyd's W. If Pacquiao wins a close decision it would bring him down a bit in comparison than if he got the KO. It would still be impressive and I'd put Pacquiao ahead but not by as much.
co-sign, a lot will factor on how he wins the fight. A close points win or a KO change the complexion on how much higher it would put him.
Pacquiao definatly. Based off pretty much what everyone else has brought up. Although I'd still have to compare Pacquiao's W and Floyd's W. If Pacquiao wins a close decision it would bring him down a bit in comparison than if he got the KO. It would still be impressive and I'd put Pacquiao ahead but not by as much.
So if Pacman defeats Hitman May 2nd, up to that point who has had the better career & who would you rank higher all time?
Personally, I would have to vote Pacman based on body of work, quality of opposition, and more lineal titles at the various weight classes.
i love both guys but i think pacs resume beats floyds resume.. but skillwise floyd is better ofcourse.. its just pac fought better oppositions IMO..
5 division in a 9 years undefeated..
most of pacman's resume were past prime fighters or not clear cut victories.
not to hate either
in my opinon, pac's best victories are against barrera the 1st fight, and the marquez fights.. and i along with many others thought marquez won both those fights against pacman.. how does pac get credit for beating zombie de la hoya and pbf doesnt when they were at a higher weight and pbf had to concede to everything? its hatred.. pac gets credit for beating a faded morales and barerra (2nd fight) and has life and death matches with marquez, beats a zombie, and a contender in diaz and all the sudden he shoots pass mayweather for atg great rankings?? nah sorry i cant go with that
But floyd missed a lot of names. too many, and that's what hurts his legacy. Manny has fought the better competition. Floyd especially in the higher weight classes has missed quite a few opponents that fans want to see. how many can you name that manny's missed?
Also Manny has 5 world titles in 5 weight classes. more lineal championships & an overall better body of work than floyd in their respetive weight classes.
Not to say Manny would beat floyd cuz i think floyd would win an easy UD, but being the greater fighter isn't all about talent or ability. it's about in ring performance, achievements, dominance & mainstream appeal. Floyds left too many question marks in too many divisions(not to say that they are all his fault, or vice versa) & unfortunately that does hurt him at the end of the day.
About the credit for each's victory over oscar, floyd was more than a 2-1 fav, oscar was 201 over manny. history shows the story of the underdog hits mainstream appeal. personally i dont give manny too much credit for oscar, he was dead at the weight. but u have to admit you most were shocked when he made de la hoya quit.
Mayweather/Pacquiao won't happen because of Arum. Bob already said If the fight gets made, Pacman get the lion's share (65-35 or 60-40) 50-50 is fair.
50-50? are U crazy? The P4P champ should get the bigger piece of the pie not the Retire guy!!!
how has he done more?
because he's undefeated? that's about it.
5 division in a 9 years undefeated..
most of pacman's resume were past prime fighters or not clear cut victories.
not to hate either
in my opinon, pac's best victories are against barrera the 1st fight, and the marquez fights.. and i along with many others thought marquez won both those fights against pacman.. how does pac get credit for beating zombie de la hoya and pbf doesnt when they were at a higher weight and pbf had to concede to everything? its hatred.. pac gets credit for beating a faded morales and barerra (2nd fight) and has life and death matches with marquez, beats a zombie, and a contender in diaz and all the sudden he shoots pass mayweather for atg great rankings?? nah sorry i cant go with that
honestly do not know how pacman would rate higher than floyd.. floyd has done more and is the better fighter
how has he done more?
because he's undefeated? that's about it.
Pacquiao was beaten by Morales and it wasn't even Morales at his best. Mayweather never lost to anybody. Pacquiao wouldn't even beat Corrales at Super Featherweight if they fought and that's not even Mayweathers best win.
if you don't think corrales was floyd's best win......i don't know what to tell you.
corrales was the only fight i can think of where floyd was actually the underdog.
diego was rated higher than floyd at the time.