Williams fought a guy who hadn't fought in roughly two years. A guy who's 37, is as soft a puncher as an elite can be, and who had a huge disadvantage in height. I would expect Pavlik to do much of the same to WW, but maybe KO him instead. THIS Winky, not a prime Winky. Now, Williams has a solid name under his belt, but it's only a name. We all know that wasn't the real Winky. Winky didn't even have a tune up. It was about money.
As for fighting Pavlik... Pavlik is taller than PW. All those huge height and reach advantages Paul has had his whole career are gone. And he's fighting a guy with high out put and better than avg. power. I need to see him fight a guy over 6' with talent to be convinced he can take on Pavlik.
AA is way over rated IMO, the guy gets all this credit for going 12 rds with shitballs like Lajuan Simon while Pavlik fights guys like Hopkins and Taylor, and then gets shit for fighting his mandatories in between. The way people overrate AA is unreal He did knock out Miranda, but after 16 rds and a broken jaw, and even then Miranda was damaged goods because it took Kelly 7 rds. to destroy Miranda's career. Maybe AA can be beat by Williams now. He's shorter and has the shell defense. His power might be his saving grace.
Vs. Pavlik- KO loss, as of today.
vs. Abraham- Williams UD, as of today.
Williams fought a guy who hadn't fought in roughly two years. A guy who's 37, is as soft a puncher as an elite can be, and who had a huge disadvantage in height. I would expect Pavlik to do much of the same to WW, but maybe KO him instead. THIS Winky, not a prime Winky. Now, Williams has a solid name under his belt, but it's only a name. We all know that wasn't the real Winky. Winky didn't even have a tune up. It was about money.
As for fighting Pavlik... Pavlik is taller than PW. All those huge height and reach advantages Paul has had his whole career are gone. And he's fighting a guy with high out put and better than avg. power. I need to see him fight a guy over 6' with talent to be convinced he can take on Pavlik.
AA is way over rated IMO, the guy gets all this credit for going 12 rds with shitballs like Lajuan Simon while Pavlik fights guys like Hopkins and Taylor, and then gets shit for fighting his mandatories in between. The way people overrate AA is unreal He did knock out Miranda, but after 16 rds and a broken jaw, and even then Miranda was damaged goods because it took Kelly 7 rds. to destroy Miranda's career. Maybe AA can be beat by Williams now. He's shorter and has the shell defense. His power might be his saving grace.
Vs. Pavlik- KO loss, as of today.
vs. Abraham- Williams UD, as of today.
and the excuses begin
Pavlik also has a high punch output not as high as Williams but Pavlik has the ability to knock out anyone he touches and PWills defense is not world class. Pavlik Kos him after about 8 competitive rounds.
Williams is the greatest fighter in the world, now.
154 is where he should be fighting now to be considered P4P. Until he beats a 6' dude with pop he is not P4P top 5. I will give him top 10 for now. Until he fights Kelly.
pavlik would ko him easy, it will be just like the miranda fight, competitive for the first couple of rounds, then pavlik would knock him out
Um,I am a huge fan of Pavlik and was at the Pavlik vs. Hopkins fight.Did you see the way Hopkins abused Pavlik?I love Paul Williams and if he follows the plan that Hopkins used,he will definitely beat Pavlik.In rd 12 last night,Williams looked just as fresh as he did in rd 1.This guy is a freak of nature.Anyone here who has any common sense would know that his only loss to Quintana was a complete fluke and Paul proved that by knocking him the **** out in rd 1 of their 2nd fight.
pavlik would ko him easy, it will be just like the miranda fight, competitive for the first couple of rounds, then pavlik would knock him out
this is the dumbest post i read today.
I don't think its talking too highly of Paul Williams after he basically shut out Winky Wright with ease.. Who ever shut Winky Wright out like that? And you talk about Pavlik beating Williams ass? Give me a break he throws more punches then Pavlik and isnt gonna be standing there for Pavlik to just hit all fight. Pavlik is way too slow and cant counter punch at all. You need to be able to counter Williams and Pavlik just can't do it.
Williams is probably like 6'3, he looked as tall as arreola when standing next to him and Arreola is listed at 6'4. Maybe Paul was wearing boots? I don't think Paul would win by knockout, I favor him by a lop-sided decision. Pauls very slick.
Yeah he looked huge in there against wright, and I mean wright isnt really small he is like what 5-11 or 5-10. I think williams is probably closer to 6-3 than his billed 6-2.
pavlik would ko him easy, it will be just like the miranda fight, competitive for the first couple of rounds, then pavlik would knock him out
If you believe that, you're an idiot.
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pavlik would ko him easy, it will be just like the miranda fight, competitive for the first couple of rounds, then pavlik would knock him out
Miranda comparison to "The Punisher" hilarious comparison brother. Miranda couldn't hold The Punisher's jock-strap, Miranda is going to get his ass kicked and possibly late stoppage by Ward.
Williams coming for you Pavlik, and he shows more angles and throws more punches then you. Scared Pavlik? :drive: Pavlik, or take your ass-whupping like a man
thats ridiculas, pavlik will have about the same hieght, hits way harder, throws a ton, and wont get ko'd, pavlik would KTFO!
Honestly lol man I think Williams would beat Wink any time.
How do you beat a guy that tall that trows that many punches? The only way is to knock him out and Wink doesn't have the power for that.
I thought going into the fight that Williams would be more of a target, and Winky wouldn't have much trouble finding him with the jab and str left.
I was wrong lol Williams is the real deal he showed his ability to escape a cagey southpaw and throw all those punches.
Lets be fair bro, Winky's timing was completely off, he didn't have the same snap on his jab he used to have and he didn't have any legs after the 5th or 6th. He was doing pretty good when moving in and out, then when he stopped, Williams would work.
I just remembered Solimon giving Winky some trouble with his punch output from different angles. So this one seemed obvious to me. I do think Wink at 154 circa Vargas fight is a different story because that one was quicker and could have thrown more punches, but it's a style mismatch for him either way.
Pavlik and Abraham are just different stories because they can punch. And Pavlik can match Williams' length which is important. Remember Margarito won 5 rounds against this guy.
Winky is ALWAYS all class. Great fight, great effort for Winky, but its time to hang them up, he needs to finish what him and Tito started, their company
Honestly lol man I think Williams would beat Wink any time.
How do you beat a guy that tall that trows that many punches? The only way is to knock him out and Wink doesn't have the power for that.
I thought going into the fight that Williams would be more of a target, and Winky wouldn't have much trouble finding him with the jab and str left.
I was wrong lol Williams is the real deal he showed his ability to escape a cagey southpaw and throw all those punches.
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Wink was all class post fight.
Winky is ALWAYS all class. Great fight, great effort for Winky, but its time to hang them up, he needs to finish what him and Tito started, their company