It's a phrase I see everywhere from youtube to Boxingscene to commentators! I think a lot of people use it because it makes them sound like they're knowledgeable on boxing but I think they don't fully understand what it means. So I want Boxingscene's finest to give a definition of the famous phrase: "Styles Make Fights".
wrongggggggggggggg.....prime for prime if they fought 10 times winky beats vargas 9 times and gets robbed the 1 time....
lol it wasn't long before someone mentioned it.
i had winky winning that fight.
To me, the phrase means when 2 fighters have different styles that offset eachother. For example:
Floyd vs Spinks will make for stinker of the year do to both thier defensive fighting styles, but Floyd vs Cotto would make for a good fight do to thier opposing fighting styles.
Pavlik = rock
Hopkins = paper
Taylor = scissors
Mosley = rock
Cotto = paper
Margarito = scissors
Forrest = rock
Mayorga = paper
Mosley = scissors
Vargas = rock
Mosley = paper
Winky = scissors
wrongggggggggggggg.....prime for prime if they fought 10 times winky beats vargas 9 times and gets robbed the 1 time....
Ill use this as an example.............
A Slugger Mayorga has the style to beat a pure boxer like Vernon Forrest....hes strong...hes wild..and hes unorthodox..he just doesnt give a shyt about being technical and has a great chin.
A pure boxer like Forrest........would beat a guy like Mosley...hes taller...and has a great jab to keep a speedster lke Shane resetting himself and he can beat him to the punch.
A boxer-puncher like Mosley would lose to Forrest almost everytime...but he would own a guy like Mayorga...because Mayo is not fast enough to catch shane and would lose on points or be KOd.
STYLES MAKES FIGHTS.
Another example::
Cotto is a better fighter then Margarito ON EVERY Level there is...period.........
BUT........
Due to Cottos weak chin.....Cottos height...and Cotto doesnt like to tie up...and add in Margs chin..and we have a problem....Marg just took Cottos shots and eventually caught up to him and stopped him.
Miguel Cotto has the style to beat Shane..theyre almost equal in size...Cotto is stronger..Cotto has a good jab to throw shane off...Cotto can bang and he can box..and hes fast.......which he did.
But.....
Mosley has the CHIN...SPEED...and POWER.....to beat a guy like Margarito....which Shane did.
STYLES MAKES FIGHTS
Ah, your examples kicked the shit outta mine! :lol1:
Different styles neutralize other styles with better fashion. For example, Mayweather is more of a Boxer than a brawler, and defeated Zab Judah on points (despite working him down on work rate before the low blow) but Mayweather decided to outbox Judah instead of brawl him.
Cotto is more of a physical fighter than intelligent, in which he goes for his opponent and attempts to destroy him, he KO'd Judah in the 11th round.
That was a quick example, I could have probably thought of a better one but I can't be arsed to think for ages. My take on the phrase "Styles make fights" basically says that different styles are more affective against different fighters because of the way there styles clash. If Boxer A beats Boxer B better than boxer C did... it doesn't mean Boxer A is better than Boxer C, it could just be the case that his style was more dominant against that kind of fighter.
Pavlik = rock
Hopkins = paper
Taylor = scissors
Mosley = rock
Cotto = paper
Margarito = scissors
Forrest = rock
Mayorga = paper
Mosley = scissors
Vargas = rock
Mosley = paper
Winky = scissors
Exactly!!!
It's basically sayin a fighter has his opponent's #. He might not necessarily be the all around 'better' fighter, but the way the styles clash gives him an edge the other guy just can't deal with.
You basically said it before me, and better then me, and in fewer words. Ass! :lol1:
I think those situations go further than that, Cotto only lost once so to say that may be stretching it. There were other intangibles involved in each of those instances. If Marg doesnt have power(plaster) then Cotto doesnt fight going backwards.
Part of it was power, but part of it is Tony's style.
With or without power, Margarito's style is still the ability to throw a lot of punches and the ability to always come forward with his great chin. A fighter like that will always give Cotto some trouble.
Pavlik = rock
Hopkins = paper
Taylor = scissors
Mosley = rock
Cotto = paper
Margarito = scissors
Forrest = rock
Mayorga = paper
Mosley = scissors
Vargas = rock
Mosley = paper
Winky = scissors
On a Tyson youtube clip somebody said Foreman would KO a prime Tyson! Why? Because apparently styles make fights! I don't think the phrase should be used for that! Maybe I'm wrong though.
Foreman would take a prime Tysons head off.
As far as the thread goes, it's a fact. Some fighters can be an overall better fighter with a better career then the man who beats him. Some guys will always just have another guys number just because of the style they use, the length of there arms, or whatever. But they can be a worse fighter with a worse career who would lose to alot of fighters that the other man already beat. Mosely getting rapped by Forrest is a perfect example. Mosely could never beat Forrest, but that doesnt mean Forrest is a better fighter who would beat everyone that Mosley beat. Forrest looked like a king against Shane. Then you get a club fighter like Mayorga who comes along and creams Forrest (yes he was injured, but still.) And nobody with a brain can claim that Mayorga is the better fighter, but his style is the wrong style for Forrest. The list goes on. The "better" man doesnt always win.
It's basically sayin a fighter has his opponent's #. He might not necessarily be the all around 'better' fighter, but the way the styles clash gives him an edge the other guy just can't deal with.
it means certains styles are tailor made for certain other styles.
So it's when 2 fighters with opposing styles fight. LIke a guy above said e.g Ali vs Frazier.
It's a phrase I see everywhere from youtube to Boxingscene to commentators! I think a lot of people use it because it makes them sound like they're knowledgeable on boxing but I think they don't fully understand what it means. So I want Boxingscene's finest to give a definition of the famous phrase: "Styles Make Fights".
it means certains styles are tailor made for certain other styles.
ali vs frazier, it would'nt have been such a great trilogy if frazier was an outfighter, or if ali didn't have his trademark speed. That in my opinion is the definition of "style's make fights"
I think those situations go further than that, Cotto only lost once so to say that may be stretching it. There were other intangibles involved in each of those instances. If Marg doesnt have power(plaster) then Cotto doesnt fight going backwards.
True. but as you can see in the Mosley/Cotto fight, Mosley landed the uppercut almost everytime he threw it. I was worried that Cotto will be tasting Margarito's uppercuts, and he did. it eventually led to the stoppage.
On a Tyson youtube clip somebody said Foreman would KO a prime Tyson! Why? Because apparently styles make fights! I don't think the phrase should be used for that! Maybe I'm wrong though.
That it's very, very true.
Example: Mosley has trouble with fighters that have a great job and can land power punches from a distance.
Cotto has trouble with pressure and uppercuts
Margarito has trouble when his opponent won't let him fight on the inside and neutralize his inhuman workrate.
There ya go...all 3 beat each other but the way their styles matched up is why each one beat the other.