Hatton's win over Tzyu...the guy was ranked number 2 p4p in the world when hatton beat him, and was a 7-1 underdog......OR
Pacquiao's win over Oscar De la Hoya at welterweight and was 2-1 underdog....
which is the more impressive victory in the ole' resume?
106 LBS!!!!
oscar fought as high as middleweight!!!
106 LBS!!!!
Im sorry, but can you read?
Oscar himself was once upon a time 106lbs.
Pacquiao now weighs over 147lbs.
Pacquiao outweighed Oscar on fight night.
Pacquiao was a teenager when he weighed that little.
OSCAR HAD NO SIZE ADVANTAGE AGAINST PACQUIAO WHEN THEIR FIGHT HAPPENED.
)News flash: Manny is excellent, but he is no Floyd Mayweather.
I couldn't agree more, Manny is no poultry in motion...
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Yes, but notice David had a sling-shot and Pac had an Auschwitz prisoner.
David's win was overrated; although very smart to bring in the sling-shot so on that note, not so overrated in terms of intelligence. But if I bring a gun to a knife fight, how much credit do I get for Man points?
For Hatton vs. Tszyu: Tszyu was 35, had only fought 9 rounds in 3 years, a few surgeries by that point, and was still trying to get his body down to 140 for the weigh-in.
This is an interesting discussion.
Just like what tua said,
This David vs. Goliath sh!t is sooo overrated, it didn't even happen in Vegas...
he was a teenager when he was that light. so who cares?
Pacquiao has grown into all the weight classes hes been in, and then some. to pretend like he was fighting with a massive size disadvantage is stupid, considering he weighed more on fight night.
once upon a time, Oscar weighed 106lbs too.
106 LBS!!!!
oscar fought as high as middleweight!!!
106 LBS!!!!
I would pick the Hatton win marginally, not because of the obvious connection to my username but:
Tszyu was the LWW king and deemed at that time to be unbeatable, however he was not the Tszyu of old therefore it was a very good win no more.
Paq v DLH looked incredible on paper and might have been five years earlier but DLH was too old to be attempting to make that sort of weight especially to then fight probably the best fighter on the planet at that time. Any advantage he may have had was lost due to conditioning in fact it destroyed him.
Therefore the Hatton win was marginally more impressive.
If any of the Paq v Morales, Barrera or Marquez wins had been mentioned I would have had no hesitation in picking those over the Hatton win over Tszyu.
Paq's career has been incredible.
I thought both were impressive, but pac used to be 106 lbs man... 106 LBS!!!
he was a teenager when he was that light. so who cares?
Pacquiao has grown into all the weight classes hes been in, and then some. to pretend like he was fighting with a massive size disadvantage is stupid, considering he weighed more on fight night.
once upon a time, Oscar weighed 106lbs too.
Hatton's win over Tzyu...the guy was ranked number 2 p4p in the world when hatton beat him, and was a 7-1 underdog......OR
Pacquiao's win over Oscar De la Hoya at welterweight and was 2-1 underdog....
which is the more impressive victory in the ole' resume?
I thought both were impressive, but pac used to be 106 lbs man... 106 LBS!!!
Tsyzu was the much better fighter at that point. I dont care if most people thought De La Hoya was going to easily knock out Pacquiao, he hadnt won a meaningful fight in forever and looked pretty easy to chop up against Forbes. theres a reason why I thought Pacquiao was going to beat him up.
Kostya may have been at the tailend of his career, but on the night of the fight it was obvious he was still a very good fighter. pressure fighters always had success against Tsyzu, so Hatton was a real bad style matchup for him especially at that point in his career, but that doesnt mean we shouldnt give Hatton credit for the win.
as usual, people exaggerated the size difference between Pacquiao and De La Hoya. I understand that De La Hoya moved down from 154 and Pacquiao moved up from 135, but Pacquiao had been weighing in as a Welterweight since his days at 130lbs, and De La Hoya has always been more or less a blown up Welterweight.
Hatton made Kostya quit on his stool in a VERY dirty fight in his home town. Hatton was the underdog, whlle Tszyu was the clear favourite and was ranked P4P, but was also 35 years old and inactive. The fight itself was pretty close until it ended.
Pac moved up two divisions, his first time fighting at 147 to square off against DLH. Oscar hadn't made the 147 limit since 2001. But most people thought he'd blow Pac away, all he'd need was one left hook and it'll be lights out for Manny. Pac proceeded to dominate an underweight Oscar from the opening bell and made him quit on his stool.
So I guess the question is what was more UNEXPECTED: A former flyweight, in his debut at welterweight scoring a TKO over an ATG who'd only ever been stopped once before against a fellow ATG at 160? or A prime 140 lber underdog, beating a P4P ranked UNDISPUTED champion??
I'm gonna choose Pac because the odds were stacked heavily in Oscar's favour, the fight was made according to his demands and he believed Lil' Manny would be a cake walk. Granted, he did come into the fight weighing less than he should have, but nobody in their right mind would have predicted Manny to dominate him like he did.