Considering he looked terrible at 147lbs, and gets knocked out at 147lbs. Figures he might as well stick in the only division he's done good in. Does this disqualify you from P4P? P4P meaning weight doesn't effect you or your style and you can dominant through the rankings of weight classes. Ricky has showed he can't already so..?
Considering he looked terrible at 147lbs, and gets knocked out at 147lbs. Figures he might as well stick in the only division he's done good in. Does this disqualify you from P4P? P4P meaning weight doesn't effect you or your style and you can dominant through the rankings of weight classes. Ricky has showed he can't already so..?
no, if ricky can beat pac, jmm and floyd, he can be considered as p4p #1. when was the last time a boxer beat the p4p #1 and #2 boxer and the recently retired p4p #1 boxer?
that is unprecedented shiit.
Yes yes yes!!! I know that weight shouldn't be a factor as far as moving up and down. But that being said, we've seen Hatton attempt to move up and was unsuccessful. So the idea of your style is able to beat other fighters regardless of weight, knowing that his style was affected by the weight difference, it doesn't mean anything? Just beating other fighters ranked #1 and 2 who have effectively moved up and down, that makes him #1 then? Maybe we should add a different category to the P4P rankings or way that it's based on.
He will be top 3 if he beats Pac i'm 100% sure of that.
I'd maybe #5 or #4. Right now he's around #8.
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P4P isn't about moving up and down weight classes.
Indeed.
P4P is a way to gauge fighters without weight being a consideration. Simply put, if Pacquiao was in the same weight class as Vitali Klitschko, he would beat him. This ranking system was created because of Sugar Ray Robinson. It's not an official title, it's not a belt, and you don't get to be considered P4P #1 simply by beating the current P4P #1. P4P is based on opinion, and most people's personal lists come quite close to The RING magazine's list. The RING list isn't compiled by their staff, it is compiled by an independent panel of boxing "experts". This is a good thing because it's impossible to claim the RING is biased in any way.
Weight is irrelevant -- a fighter can be the consensus P4P #1 even if he stays in a single division for his entire career, but moving into different divisions undoubtedly influences opinions of what constitutes a great fighter.
He will be top 3 if he beats Pac i'm 100% sure of that.
I'd say maybe #5 or #4. Right now he's around #8.
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Considering he looked terrible at 147lbs, and gets knocked out at 147lbs. Figures he might as well stick in the only division he's done good in. Does this disqualify you from P4P? P4P meaning weight doesn't effect you or your style and you can dominant through the rankings of weight classes. Ricky has showed he can't already so..?
You dont understand the meaning of P4P. P4P simply means "all things equal."
A fighter can never move up or down in weight and still be the number 1 P4P fighter.
Yes, he can. If he beats who he wants to beat, then he definitely can be pound for pound number 1. Besides, Hagler, Monzon etc. and heavyweights are/were ranked in the top 10 pound for pound without moving up.
P4P DOESNT MEAN THAT YOU NEED TO DOMINATE OTHER DIVISIONS BESIDES THE ONE YOU FIGHT OUT OF.
ITS JUST YOUR THE BEST OVERALL !!!!!bUT HATTON SHOULD BE P4P #1 IF HE BEATS PACMAN ITS ONLY RIGHT!!!BEAT THE BEST YOUR THE BEST,BEAT THE P4P KING YOU GET TO BE CROWNDED P4P!!!
P4P is not about moving up or down in weight classes. Is about your dominace compare to ther fighters in other divisions.
That been said, hatton doesnt have a super impresive resume. Even if he beats Pacquiao he wont be number 1 P4P, hell be P4P number 5 at best. He needs to beat more than 1 big name to be cosider number 1. I think he needs to beat pac, JMM and another big name to be number 1 p4P. and I dont see that happening
He will be top 3 if he beats Pac i'm 100% sure of that.
I think you guys are forgetting or didn't read everything. I mentioned how Hatton ALREADY attempted another weight class and failed pretty bad at it. Thus he's moved back down to the only division he seemed to be good at. So now with that in mind that he sucks ballz at another weight class, would you guys say he can still be P4P top 3? A fighter whose jumping up and down classes is going to meet him at the weight class he's best at which should advantage him. I don't see how Hatton can move up any higher than he is whereever that might be.
P4P isn't about moving up and down weight classes.
I think you guys are forgetting or didn't read everything. I mentioned how Hatton ALREADY attempted another weight class and failed pretty bad at it. Thus he's moved back down to the only division he seemed to be good at. So now with that in mind that he sucks ballz at another weight class, would you guys say he can still be P4P top 3? A fighter whose jumping up and down classes is going to meet him at the weight class he's best at which should advantage him. I don't see how Hatton can move up any higher in ranking than he is, whereever that might be.
B-HOP was P4P top 3 for a while and most of his career was in the same division. Again you guys, you know who, manage to misinterpret boxing lingo to your advantage. AND WHY THE FUK DO MF'ers say for example
"he did not avenge the lost he had against....." Some shit is just irritating to see.
P4P rankings DON"T mean who has won more belts in the most divisions!!!
It does help, but that is NOT what P4P means.
Excellent post. Another guy who was considered one of the top p4p guys was Hagler, and he only was in one weight class his whole career. Aaron Pryor was another one as well.
B-HOP was P4P top 3 for a while and most of his career was in the same division. Again you guys, you know who, manage to misinterpret boxing lingo to your advantage. AND WHY THE FUK DO MF'ers say for example
"he did not avenge the lost he had against....." Some shit is just irritating to see.
P4P rankings DON"T mean who has won more belts in the most divisions!!!
It does help, but that is NOT what P4P means.
Very good post homey. +K
B-HOP was P4P top 3 for a while and most of his career was in the same division. Again you guys, you know who, manage to misinterpret boxing lingo to your advantage. AND WHY THE FUK DO MF'ers say for example
"he did not avenge the lost he had against....." Some shit is just irritating to see.
P4P rankings DON"T mean who has won more belts in the most divisions!!!
It does help, but that is NOT what P4P means.
Pound for pound just means that out of all the divisions you are overall the best fighter, so i don't think it matters THAT MUCH if you only fight in one division, otherwise how come Mike Tyson was p4p number 1, i know its different but still.
^ This
So yes, he is. If Hatton beats Pacman he is the P4P king.
If he could beat Pac and then JMM right after, he'd be there. I don't see it happenin tho.
Agreed, he will be top 2 if he beats these 2... but not number 1 just from beating Pacquiao at his 5th weight class.