As long as he fights the best who cares if he fights at 147 or at 154!!but theres more money against Cotto and Mosley at 147.Although Mosley has proven he can make an adjustment in weight classes specially at 154 wich it will be interesting!!!
IMO Pwill should Fight the winner of Kirkland-Dzurink (sp) then move down and fight at WW while he still can. Hopefully he can fight and beat Clottey, Berto, Cotto, and Mayweather then move back up to fight Pavlik.
He really needs to create a buzz and the only way he can do so is by beating a big name boxer. Like I said he will eventually fight at the MW and maybe SMW divisions so why not get alot of the big name guys on your resume before making the jump. Pavlik and alot of those MW and SMW guys are still young and have atleast 5-6 years in them. I would just hate for williams to move up and there be alot of What if's brought up in the future.
IMO this year
Winky
(dont face Kirkland yet let him create a huge following first)
Jump down to WW
Clotty
Mosley
Cotto
Berto
Mayweather
Jump back to LMW
face Kirkland (by now he has create a huge buzz)
Jump to MW
face Kelly Pavlik
some other big names at MW and SMW
Jump to Cruiserweight
Face Chad Dawson
I understand your thinking but talking about cruiserweight? Guessing this is a wind up
I will be more impressed if he cleans up the 154pd division than the ww's just because he will be fighting people more of his size. i would love to see him fight daniel santos or medina. but he better be ready for wright he may surprise him and his followers :boxing:
one could make the arguement that he proves alot more fighting welterweights because at the end of the day theres a whole lot more talent at 147 and 154 than there is at 160 and above .
id also like to point out that clottey comes in at 170 wich is more than williams comes in at rehydrated so really i dont see why people throw the " hes too big " card out there , so hes tall , so what. tyson was to small didnt stop his ass from becoming one of the most dominating fighters ever.
is cellestino callbaero to big also ? hes 5 11 and fights at 122
oscars the only one??baldo outweighted him by 17 pounds man castillo,corrales..stop dranking the haterade
delerious. Plus Castillo and Corralles were 7 years ago!!!!!!!!!
Baldo is an old fatbody
IMO Pwill should Fight the winner of Kirkland-Dzurink (sp) then move down and fight at WW while he still can. Hopefully he can fight and beat Clottey, Berto, Cotto, and Mayweather then move back up to fight Pavlik.
He really needs to create a buzz and the only way he can do so is by beating a big name boxer. Like I said he will eventually fight at the MW and maybe SMW divisions so why not get alot of the big name guys on your resume before making the jump. Pavlik and alot of those MW and SMW guys are still young and have atleast 5-6 years in them. I would just hate for williams to move up and there be alot of What if's brought up in the future.
IMO this year
Winky
(dont face Kirkland yet let him create a huge following first)
Jump down to WW
Clotty
Mosley
Cotto
Berto
Mayweather
Jump back to LMW
face Kirkland (by now he has create a huge buzz)
Jump to MW
face Kelly Pavlik
some other big names at MW and SMW
Jump to Cruiserweight
Face Chad Dawson
Does the same aply to Clottey, Margarito?
wins over Clottey, Margarito and Cotto are all very good wins but are all undersized. Margarito and Clottey are big welterweights but are clearly smaller than Williams.
Wins over Pavlik and Abraham are better because they are naturally bigger and stronger guys than Williams.
Given his freakish size, he'd prove alot more by beating middle weights rather than WW's. He wouldnt have such a reach and height advantage.
The scary thing is he's the same height as Kelly Pavlik and he has a big reach advantage on Kelly Pavlik. He's a pretty big middleweight to.
True
Question, which win is better, Paul beating Cotto or Sergio Martinez?
Cotto is the better win.
Which is a better win for Williams ?
Cotto or Pavlik ?
I would vote Pavlik because he is naturally bigger and stronger.
Cotto is more skilled but is much smaller.
The welterweight division is one of boxing's best divisions. It certainly has the better fighters than 154 and 160. Williams Advantages in height and reach are at their best in this division because the fighters are smaller.
Junior middleweight and middleweight are weak divisions but would be tougher divisions for Williams because the fighters there are bigger and stronger which takes away from his main advantages.
I personally think him going up to 154 and 160 and beating the best fighters there is more impressive because his advantages in reach, height, ect aren't as much of a factor which means he would be beating them with more skill and not natural size. Thats the way i see it.
My point exacty.
The welterweight division is one of boxing's best divisions. It certainly has the better fighters than 154 and 160. Williams Advantages in height and reach are at their best in this division because the fighters are smaller.
Junior middleweight and middleweight are weak divisions but would be tougher divisions for Williams because the fighters there are bigger and stronger which takes away from his main advantages.
I personally think him going up to 154 and 160 and beating the best fighters there is more impressive because his advantages in reach, height, ect aren't as much of a factor which means he would be beating them with more skill and not natural size. Thats the way i see it.
All he should do as far as I'm concerned is fight 154-168. Don't exagerate to make me look stupid, please.
I just don't understand why people say he shouldn't fight in a weight class that he can make. It makes no sense.
He is finding fights now and could be headed for a unification with Sergiy Dz if they both win their next fights, but he fights effectively at 3 divisions. There is no need to say he should move up because other fighters have. Some fighters move up, some don't. There's a million reasons why.
C'mon, going up means nothing. There is no such thing as a height class. What is impressive is taking out the best guys or at least fighting them at whatever weight when you are fighting their weight. Paul would I'm with reedik and bat on this one. By your twisted ass logic, PWILL should beat up Vitali to get some props.
Larryxxx is retarded. He wants everyone but his gay idol to fight guys that are way bigger than them and talks shit about every other fighter.
All he should do as far as I'm concerned is fight 154-168. Don't exagerate to make me look stupid, please.
Yeah but he actually got some fights at WW, before he moved up.... Williams has beaten Margario and Quinatana and nobody else will fight him... I think he should get a mandatory for a ww title, and make them come to him..
I think he will move up EVENTUALLY regardless.... so IMO he should do whatever he can at welterweight... NOW.
I guess I agree with you but I don't see the sense in whining about it. Not that you are, but I hear a lot of whining on here because Williams can't get fights. If people don't want to fight you, go find someone else. If welterweights don't want you, fight in higher divisions. Which is exactly what Williams has done, and I think it's the right thing. But some of his fans come on here and bitch constantly about Cotto. The man is busy. He fought Margarito last summer while Williams was busy avenging a loss. After losing, he fought a bounce back fight against Jennings and now he's in a unification bout with Clottey. Williams fans have never been able to answer "when should Cotto have fought Williams?" because there's not an answer.
Tommy Hearns kept going up in weight, as Williams should. To me, beating Mosley, Cotto, and Clottey for him is not as impressive as Pavlik, Abraham, and Taylor or whoever. What is more impressive to you?
C'mon, going up means nothing. There is no such thing as a height class. What is impressive is taking out the best guys or at least fighting them at whatever weight when you are fighting their weight. Paul would I'm with reedik and bat on this one. By your twisted ass logic, PWILL should beat up Vitali to get some props.
Larryxxx is retarded. He wants everyone but his gay idol to fight guys that are way bigger than them and talks shit about every other fighter.
Tommy Hearns kept going up in weight, as Williams should. To me, beating Mosley, Cotto, and Clottey for him is not as impressive as Pavlik, Abraham, and Taylor or whoever. What is more impressive to you?
Yeah but he actually got some fights at WW, before he moved up.... Williams has beaten Margario and Quinatana and nobody else will fight him... I think he should get a mandatory for a ww title, and make them come to him..
I think he will move up EVENTUALLY regardless.... so IMO he should do whatever he can at welterweight... NOW.