..MAX KELLERMAN Basically Calling ISRAEL VAZQUEZ A Quitter...

Look at that list of ****ing bums. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Not great fighters: Roberto Duran Willie Pep Pernell Whitaker Sugar Ray Robinson Sam Langford Joe Gans JC Chavez etc. Look at that list of ****ing bums.

kellerman make it sound like you should DIE frist before quitting. vaquez had a broken nose and couldn't breathe for shit, so what he quit? he not gonna risk his life for you kellerman. just contiune sucking paul nuts.

Not great fighters: Roberto Duran Willie Pep Pernell Whitaker Sugar Ray Robinson Sam Langford Joe Gans JC Chavez etc.

Vazquez gave it all he had but he was ****ed. theres no shame in that type of "quit" and he did redeem himself against marquez the next couple fights!

I still can't get over the fact that Max is basically saying that you can't be great if you quit. I don't think his dumbass realizes how many GREAT fighters he's disqualifying from that category. Ass.

Here's a quote from The Ring Magazine... 'I like Israel Vazquez a lot. Against Rafael Marquez, in their first fight, his nose was mangled and he stopped fighting. He quit. I'm not saying he shouldn't have quit; I would have quit long before he did. The vast majority of people who ever lived would have quit. 'I'm not saying it was a bad decision or that he shouldn't have quit. But what we demand of fighters in order to say that they're truly great is that they don't quit in those circumstances. And he did. Now, Vazquez came back and won two incredible fights against Marquez, and if you want to call him a great fighter, I'm not going to argue with you, reallu. But he quit.' This was for a feature about how he'd do against Wilfredo Gomez. Nonetheless, your thoughts on these comments. Vote. Discuss. Max is a fukin tard, he doesnt do well on HBO, he should go back to espn....

Guess Max didnt know about the injuries Vazquez suffered in the 3rd fight. And he kept fighting. exactly. Vazquez said he could not see from the fourth round. And he fought Marquez with one eye. And won.

I think also people for get about that fight that Vazquez was coming on in that fight. Marquez was ahead due to the earlier rounds but Vazquez was turning the momentum. He even won the last round that he stopped. Don't forget that. Re watch the fight.

Just Fear I think that what Max wants to say is that it's time to fight.I think what happens is that you are afraid to Juanma Lopez and does not want to fight like Rafael already informed us that no interest is cowardly Juanma time struggling with the terror of the Mexican and the best 122 lb, and if they do not agree to fight just call him quitter.

He did quit. Whats the problem? The entire place felt let down after the fight, and some people were truly pissed that he did. Many were highly enjoying the great action and felt cheated, until they saw the interview on the screens on the way out and you could see his face blowing up by the second.

I think he' correct in putting the word in the right context. Sure he quit by definition, but he went through more pain than most of us or any other boxer would have gone through. I dont agree with him saying that it truly defines greatness not to quit though. Some great boxers dont even find themselves in that situation., their face mangled, their body broken down. Even SRR quit by definition. Now he could have died in the ring...

Many great fighters have quit. Coming back strong from tough losses shows greatness. I'm not sure if I'd call Vasquez great yet but quitting in one fight doesn't mean he can't ever be great.

What about Duran? Quitting against SRL has not affected him becoming one of the greatest boxers of all-time. Vazquez erased anything from the first fight with two consecutive wins over Marquez in a thrilling trilogy.

We had this discussion in several different threads. I'd be with Kellerman, except the tone of his statement isnt a good one. Like he is trying to say something bad about Vazquez, but knows he will get nailed if he comes out and says it, so he qualifies it 1000 different ways and is satisified to just have the conotation of the word "quit" to do his dirty work. Something just doesn't sound right about it, and I cant put into words how its not right just that it isn't.

vasquez definitely quit, but he was anxious for the rematch the rubbermatch and a 4th fight.

What's funny is that all the ones that voted no are probably mostly the ones that voted that Cotto quit.

Nope. No matter what he does in his other fights, he still quit. You can't just erase it from his record. No matter how many good showings you have after that, you still quit one more time than you should have. Get the **** out of here LOL Your implying is that what he did was shameful and he's going to have to live with it. He could have DIED. Got to love comments from armchair boxers who have never laced up a pair of gloves or taken a punch to the face.

Guess Max didnt know about the injuries Vazquez suffered in the 3rd fight. And he kept fighting.

If yuo quit...you quit...why???..doesnt matter...a fact is a fact...now Izzy redeemed hiself with two great showings but he did quit in the first fight...thats a fact. You love quitting don't you.