When is kessler going to step it up ?

Oh did not see it. Too many posts on this board, it's crazy!

I tend to believe that this is Palle's fault. Remember what Kessler did to Andrade, and no one fights Andrade without some sizeable cojones. I also pay no attention to Kessler anymore becfause he is letting his promoters destroy his chance to make something of himself. I don't know what his deal is, but if it is that he owes Palle a couple of fights, he needs to get them over with ASAP and get back to SMW, it's hot right now and he can make a name for himself and some coin. I think he puts it on Froch, who hasn't really fought a boxer, and keeping his hands down against Kessler can hurt him in a big way. Kessler won't deteriorate as the rounds go on.

Oh did not see it. Too many posts on this board, it's crazy!

Nothing concrete but Kessler posted this yesterday on his website: "Hopefully I will fight the mandatory title defence against Perdomo in June, as I’m in really good shape after a longer training-camp in Spain. Unfortunately it is out of my hands as I’m struggling with my former Promotor and Manager, however we should be able to find a solution in the nearest future. Froch I would love to fight Froch after the mandatory title defence. I know it would be a great fight as I believe that we both would bring something special to the ring. He’s a strong as an ox, but doesn’t seem to have any guards or head movement...." You can check this Barry: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267874

Nothing concrete but Kessler posted this yesterday on his website: "Hopefully I will fight the mandatory title defence against Perdomo in June, as I’m in really good shape after a longer training-camp in Spain. Unfortunately it is out of my hands as I’m struggling with my former Promotor and Manager, however we should be able to find a solution in the nearest future. Froch I would love to fight Froch after the mandatory title defence. I know it would be a great fight as I believe that we both would bring something special to the ring. He’s a strong as an ox, but doesn’t seem to have any guards or head movement...."

I'd love to see him fight Taylor, Kessler's tight but I'd like to see him in the states or in England fighting guys like Taylor and Froch.

poor kessler limited by this small time silly palle. the guy has to shed that idiot team palle! would like to see froch step up and let kess challenge him. a would like to see kessler land a fight with froch or even a rematch with mundine....something to stop him fighting opponents from journeymaen to fckn guys they pull out coffins

Speaking of the Ward fight, how's Mirandas camp doing? Is he on schedule with his weight? He looked a bit heavy last time out. Yes, he is on schedule without killing himself. After his 176lbs fight in London in Feb, he was right back in the gym staying in shape. 168lbs will never be easy for him to make. But getting there from 190lbs versus 226lbs should make a big difference come fight night. Im hoping for a good entertaining fight with a Miranda KO win. It should propel him into a position for a title fight with Froch or possibly Kessler, if Palle would let it happen.

I cant say for sure, but Miranda going over there for a big fight and pay day is a possibility. I think he would rather stay here and fight Froch, but I guess it comes down to the money. Of course I am getting ahead of myself, he needs to get by a tough fight in Andre Ward first! Speaking of the Ward fight, how's Mirandas camp doing? Is he on schedule with his weight? He looked a bit heavy last time out.

What a joke. Whatever. Don't bother to read the thread. :ugh:

I don't know man. With Kessler doing his fighting in court it will take a long time before we see him in the ring at all. That being said I'm convinced that a Miranda-Kessler fight would do big numbers over here. He is known as the guy who dared challenge Kessler on danish national TV and calling him a kitten :lol1: I cant say for sure, but Miranda going over there for a big fight and pay day is a possibility. I think he would rather stay here and fight Froch, but I guess it comes down to the money. Of course I am getting ahead of myself, he needs to get by a tough fight in Andre Ward first!

He could have, but he was adamant that the fight has be at catchweight or 168.

And Bat... If Kessler is willing to come to the Hard Rock and fight Miranda after this Ward fight, I can tell you for a fact that Miranda would take the fight. You got some pull? Make it happen over there and I will be sure to do the same here. I don't know man. With Kessler doing his fighting in court it will take a long time before we see him in the ring at all. That being said I'm convinced that a Miranda-Kessler fight would do big numbers over here. He is known as the guy who dared challenge Kessler on danish national TV and calling him a kitten :lol1:

Great post:boxing: Thanks. actually i didn't know that so thanks for clearing that up for me bat.:boxing: i just assumed that kessler coming off a loss didn't want to get in the ring straightaway with a big puncher like miranda, but daaammn kess has got big cojones for taking on such a dangerous fighter after a loss. Still the rejection in the first place is still kinda shady. I think Palle tried to hardball too much and overplayed their hand in one way or the other. With the benefit of hindsight it was a very bad move not signing for the fight. It was also a bad move then, but considering how Kessler's career has panned out afterwards it has to be one of the worst managerial decisions in recent memory.

And Bat... If Kessler is willing to come to the Hard Rock and fight Miranda after this Ward fight, I can tell you for a fact that Miranda would take the fight. You got some pull? Make it happen over there and I will be sure to do the same here.

:killyou: We've been through this so many times it's unbelieveable. I'll give it a go as unbiased as possible: There was not one but 2 separate negotiations between Warriors (Miranda) and Palle (Kessler), At first Showtime was to televise statesside. That deal was rejected by Palle attourney Michael Marley who says that Warriors reneged on how Kessler's purse was to be paid. The second time it was on HBO. All the terms for the fight including holding the bout at the Seminole Tribe Hard Rock Casino in Florida. In other words, Kessler accepted fighting in Miranda's home ring. As it turns out Warriors had simultaneously negotiated a rematch with Arthur Abraham (Sauerland) and prefered that option and ditced Kessler accordingly. Now I make a quotation from Michael Marley just to get some kick-back on my man pantera2000: "Kessler's acceptance was done in writing and sent to HBO officials and to Leon Margules and Lou DiBella... It was Miranda's guy, Mr. Margules, who stabbed HBO in the back, ducking out to fight Abraham. He was double dealing HBO. HBO was pissed but they couldn't do anything about it." :popcorn: Bat- I am not going to rehash this, but Marley is a ****ing idiot who was trying to protect Palle from looking like an ass. 100% fact is that Miranda's team wanted the fight with Kessler. Palle dropped out of sight and did not return calls to HBO, Warriors or Team Pantera for weeks. Not days, weeks! During that time another offer came on the table and not being able to get anything from Palle, Pantera's team signed the sure thing. They werent playing two sides. They wanted a fight and Palle wouldnt sign the bottom line. Sauerland did, done deal.

:killyou: We've been through this so many times it's unbelieveable. I'll give it a go as unbiased as possible: There was not one but 2 separate negotiations between Warriors (Miranda) and Palle (Kessler), At first Showtime was to televise statesside. That deal was rejected by Palle attourney Michael Marley who says that Warriors reneged on how Kessler's purse was to be paid. The second time it was on HBO. All the terms for the fight including holding the bout at the Seminole Tribe Hard Rock Casino in Florida. In other words, Kessler accepted fighting in Miranda's home ring. As it turns out Warriors had simultaneously negotiated a rematch with Arthur Abraham (Sauerland) and prefered that option and ditced Kessler accordingly. Now I make a quotation from Michael Marley just to get some kick-back on my man pantera2000: "Kessler's acceptance was done in writing and sent to HBO officials and to Leon Margules and Lou DiBella... It was Miranda's guy, Mr. Margules, who stabbed HBO in the back, ducking out to fight Abraham. He was double dealing HBO. HBO was pissed but they couldn't do anything about it." :popcorn: actually i didn't know that so thanks for clearing that up for me bat.:boxing: i just assumed that kessler coming off a loss didn't want to get in the ring straightaway with a big puncher like miranda, but daaammn kess has got big cojones for taking on such a dangerous fighter after a loss.

:killyou: We've been through this so many times it's unbelieveable. I'll give it a go as unbiased as possible: There was not one but 2 separate negotiations between Warriors (Miranda) and Palle (Kessler), At first Showtime was to televise statesside. That deal was rejected by Palle attourney Michael Marley who says that Warriors reneged on how Kessler's purse was to be paid. The second time it was on HBO. All the terms for the fight including holding the bout at the Seminole Tribe Hard Rock Casino in Florida. In other words, Kessler accepted fighting in Miranda's home ring. As it turns out Warriors had simultaneously negotiated a rematch with Arthur Abraham (Sauerland) and prefered that option and ditced Kessler accordingly. Now I make a quotation from Michael Marley just to get some kick-back on my man pantera2000: "Kessler's acceptance was done in writing and sent to HBO officials and to Leon Margules and Lou DiBella... It was Miranda's guy, Mr. Margules, who stabbed HBO in the back, ducking out to fight Abraham. He was double dealing HBO. HBO was pissed but they couldn't do anything about it." :popcorn: Great post:boxing:

kess himself seems like a polite guy and keeps on calling out big names but maybe he should down the hayemaker route and discredit his opponent, it worked for haye against vlad. kess has called out the likes of winky, hopkins, dawson, johnson, taylor and calzaghe. some of those fights haven't been made because of weight issues (dawson) other times its the money being offered (johnson) and sometimes fighters just dont want anything to do with a well skilled, talented, powerful euro fighter (hopkins). SMW is a division that is red hot right now and with the likes of artur abraham and maybe pavlik going up its only going to get better. i can see why kess is delaying the move to LHW, he wants to secure the big fights at SMW and establish himself as calzaghes heir apparent. its harder on euro fighters in general to break into the market - look at guys like AA and kessler, they should be fighting the likes of pavlik or bute/hopkins. calzaghe spent the best part of 4 years chasing up hopkins, tarver and RJJ. every now and again you get fighters like haye and hatton who manage it but most good euros are relying on fighters like johnson who aren't afraid of taking riskier fights to secure big fights. euro fighters need a belt if they are to be recognised in the american market, otherwise they are just seen as a bum and can be avoided but if they have a belt then sooner or later unification and the big fights will follow. however holding a belt comes with its own problems, namely in the shape of no name mandatories that tae up time, effort and are generally not worthy of competing with a good champ (pedormo, sartison, haussler etc)

Kessler has actually fought a very competition up to the calzaghe fight, The problem he has with his promoter is definitely having a bad effect on his resume.