6 reasons why pac is still top dog!

Whoever is on top the rankings has to constantly prove themselves over and over!!! I can hardly remember a time when the P4p num 1 ranked fighter wasnt at risk of being knocked off the top of the list!!! Very true. How come its so rare that the #2 fighter is hardly ever in a position to take the 1 spot no matter how good the opposition is that he beats though? Seems like #1 can almost sit on that position so long as he doesn't lose.

Whoever is on top the rankings has to constantly prove themselves over and over!!! I can hardly remember a time when the P4p num 1 ranked fighter wasnt at risk of being knocked off the top of the list!!!

Because thats right. If you don't agree with somthing you are a hater. All right, which one of you hatin mofo's wants to disagree with this? What, no takers?

pacman has been dominating his opponents. marquez was getting beaten untill the 8th round when diaz got a cut. diaz plods forward i think manny would use his speed and quick feet against him. I think marquez wants pac for a big payday, because pac would have destroyed that marquez on sat.

QUOTE=larryx;4843713]pac is not a 5 weight champ.......and its very debatable jmm being p4p#1 lol yes he is, go to boxrec.com it has every fighters fight and against who what belt and what they weighed

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yep top dog till marquez can beat pac. for now its a lot of hype because the fight is still fresh in the mind. good win for marquez but people are getting carried away. beating diaz does not make you level or above pac. beating him does or a an elite fighter like cotto,mosely,floyd....then it could be considered. ^^^^^ im with him!!!

I dont get how jmm beating diaz (who lost to campbell) makes him p4p #1... by that reasoning, nate should be p4p #1.

Imma give you this...main reason why is because your reason #2...he did beat Marquez once...the first fight was a draw that in many people's eyes should have been a win for Marquez...so I say this...Pac is the top dog for now...Marquez should have taken his opportunity when they fought the second time but didn't...however there will be a large cloud over your "Top dog" until he faces Marquez again for a final time... yep top dog till marquez can beat pac. for now its a lot of hype because the fight is still fresh in the mind. good win for marquez but people are getting carried away. beating diaz does not make you level or above pac. beating him does or a an elite fighter like cotto,mosely,floyd....then it could be considered.

u can make the case for both, Casamayor is over the top, and diaz is good not great. Diaz is good not great and Oscar is over the top. Both fights Pac and Marquez had were close enough to go either way. Both are exciting so we win!

1. pac has not been beaten as p4p 1 2. pac beat marquez. 3. Pac is a 5 weight champ 4. pac still has got the best resume of fighters. 5. pac is fighting 2-3 divisions above his natural weight. 6. pac is taking on real challenges. e.g hatton, cotto, mosely this is for all you folks thinking that he is an undeserving p4p 1. i repeat he cant be overtaken untill he is beaten decisively, or when he retires. no current fighter comes close. 4 weight champ...for now.

yep chups you got it right. im just putting these marquez fans in their place. casa and diaz are good victory's but all this talk of surpassing pac is nonsense. Fair enough. One thing the JMM victory did change imo (P4P wise) is that before JMM beat Diaz Pac could have lost to Hatton and still be P4P 1 (Despite what Ricky says!) He was that far ahead of everyone else. Now after the weekend Pac has to beat Hatton to keep his place, which is easier said than done. I still havent decided who I think will win and I've been thinking about it everyday since the Oscar fight. Whoever wins, it should be a cracker of a fight!

Or it could be a retaliation from the real insecure fans who wants to put JMM prematurely on P4P #1. :D yep chups you got it right. im just putting these marquez fans in their place. casa and diaz are good victory's but all this talk of surpassing pac is nonsense.

casamayor was shot by the time JMM got him. the only thing that impressed me in that fight was that JMM KOed him, which is notable because he's never been KOed before. same thing with DLH... it was impressive that Pac tKOed DLH, who has never been stopped except by Hopkins. if you're gonna give JMM credit for Casamayor, you must give Pac credit for DLH.QUOTE] not true at all.casa was the man at 135 coming off of a ko win..oscar hasnt done shit in yearsodh beat forbes deciscively before that and had a very closr fight with maywearther a year before...

Could the thread starter be any more insecure after the weekends boxing!!? Pac is still the man though. Just.

casamayor was shot by the time JMM got him. the only thing that impressed me in that fight was that JMM KOed him, which is notable because he's never been KOed before. same thing with DLH... it was impressive that Pac tKOed DLH, who has never been stopped except by Hopkins. if you're gonna give JMM credit for Casamayor, you must give Pac credit for DLH. Casa KO'd a top 10 LW contender in Katsidis prior to the JMM fight. I think the Casa victory held a little more worth than the DLH victory. both good vics though.

Pac has lost you moron. He did revenge his loss to Morales tho. He beat JMM on a controversial split decision. Real challenge? What was david Diaz. JMM mover up a fought Joel Casamayor. Pacman went up and was all cautious. Who has Pac beat a light weight? Oscar De La Hoya? He is an over rated hasbeen. Also only a few fighter have entered the ring with pacman and been taller. Ricky Hatton is only an inch taller. casamayor was shot by the time JMM got him. the only thing that impressed me in that fight was that JMM KOed him, which is notable because he's never been KOed before. same thing with DLH... it was impressive that Pac tKOed DLH, who has never been stopped except by Hopkins. if you're gonna give JMM credit for Casamayor, you must give Pac credit for DLH.

I'm a big fan of Pacman, but both him and Marquez are ranked the best in my mind. They are both fighting above their natural weight class and are both taking on big challenges (though Casamayor/J.Diaz > D.Diaz/Oscar). The Pacman/Marquez fights were both very close, so you can't really use them in this case until one of them clearly beats the other. The P4P list is a bit pointless IMO, its completely subjective and really doesn't prove anything. It just seems being P4P #1 is more important than taking on the big challenges for some fighters/fans.I pretty much just said the exact same thing that you did. I agree with you on everything except the level of opposition in their two fights respectively. I think Diaz was a decent step up for Pacquiao and Casamayor -- though Ring Champ, had lost a step. Shit, they say he is 37 but some have said that he could be as old as 40 and he definitely is not even close to being the old Joel. vs. Diaz and vs Oscar is different. Everybody and I mean EVERYBODY that was anybody in boxing chose Oscar to destroy Pacquiao. Pacquiao manhandled him like he was a child. That was major. Diaz vs Marquez was a toss-up (I chose Diaz) and it was even right up to the knockout though you could see JMM taking over in the later rounds. I don't think that anybody before the fight was saying that Oscar de la Hoya is less of a challenge for Pacquiao (given the size difference) than Diaz is for Marquez so why say it now. I personally don't even believe Oscar is half as shot as people are saying. I think Pacquiao just made him look that way.

Huge fan of Pacquiao and I even chose Diaz to wear down Marquez. In their current situations, given both of their obvious step's up in competition, I would make this a 1 and 1a) situation based on their head to head records -- which is by no means decisive. I am actually quite nervous about Pacquiao taking a rematch with JMM but I still wanna see that sumbitch. Anyway Pacquiao is 1 because he earned it, he was there first and has yet to be beaten as P4P number 1 and Marquez would be 1a because he's doing everything that is within his power to match Pacquiao in accomplishments which should hopefully force Pac to a third fight. Regardless of who you guys think has the better record or who won either fight these guys are completely, totally and perfectly matched. A third fight will be historic. Who the **** would have thought that this would be the case 5 or even 3 years ago. Boxing is ****ing great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Because thats right. If you don't agree with somthing you are a hater. well said, i dont accuse people of being a hater or a nuthugger (every one has an opinion) but if hammerhiem made a comment like that he must be a nuthugger!!!! yes i dont like pac and yes i think hatton will win but i still think this will be a gr8 fight and both have a strong chance.