First off let me say that am I in no way, shape or form a Marquez hater. Marquez is brilliant and an ATG. His performance against Diaz was incredible, and I surely wasn't expecting a knockout. With that said, Pacquiao beat him and therefore is #1. I see a lot of people stating that Marquez is #1. This may be the closest that #1 and #2 have ever been, but Pacquiao is still at the top. Actually, after watching Marquez you have to respect Pacquiao even more.
To hell with those fuktards who still discredit Pac's win over De La Hoya. A 50 year old Oscar could still KTFO a one-dimensional Pac, right? Fuking morons. I have no problem with people who give Marquez a lot of credit (he dserves it), but to the douchebags that do nothing but discredit Pacquiao, **** YOU.
Nacho and Dundee said Oscar was in shape. Oscar started losing weight even before his training camp. So by weigh in day, he didn't have to spend that much losing the weight.
Pacquiao REALLY beat JMM two times, THe first time, the judge messed up the SCORING.
and the Second time, the KNOCKDOWN(for those who dont remember) made the difference in the fight.
When you win a fight by a point, you did not dominate your opponent.
Sure he can.
Old (but still dangerous) Casamayor, Prime Juan Diaz >> Oscar's corpse, Prime David Diaz.
okay lets compare wins
Old Casamayor, Prime Juan Diaz<<<<< Old oscar, Prime Barrera,
Old (but still dangerous) Casamayor, Prime Juan Diaz >> Oscar's corpse, Prime David Diaz.
Are you leaving out the fact that Pacquiao moved up two weight divisions and annihilated a HOF'er while being a huge underdog?
And also the fact that Marquez was the favorite against Juan Diaz?
Consider all the factors, homeslice.
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Marquez won against Pacquiao in my eyes and in the eyes of the majority of people in the boxing world.. therefor Marquez is No 1!
OMG did the WBA just try to shamelessly copy the ring belt? That title looks ridiculous
Marquez won against Pacquiao in my eyes and in the eyes of the majority of people in the boxing world.. therefor Marquez is No 1!
But you know it doesn't actually work like that. No matter who you think won, it's what goes down on the resume that counts, be it a W or a L.
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If you gonna put that the majority has JMM winning, why don't you also add that those majority felt that it was a closed fight that could have gone either way. You are telling the whole story.
First off let me say that am I in no way, shape or form a Marquez hater. Marquez is brilliant and an ATG. His performance against Diaz was incredible, and I surely wasn't expecting a knockout. With that said, Pacquiao beat him and therefore is #1. I see a lot of people stating that Marquez is #1. This may be the closest that #1 and #2 have ever been, but Pacquiao is still at the top. Actually, after watching Marquez you have to respect Pacquiao even more.
Yes he is.
He dominated JMM twice, its over bro.
Getting a draw, and a close, highly disputed SD in which most people in the boxing world thought you lost is not the definition of "dominating".
Marquez > Pacquiao.
Pac gets a draw against Marquez.
Pac wins a highly contested SD over Marquez in which most boxing people thought he should've lost.
Pac moves up to 135lbs, targets the weakest titleholder in the division. A paper Champion in Diaz who barely managed to scrape a win against a 65 year old, shot, mummified version of Erik Morales. Pac knocks him out like we all expected.
Pac then beats up the weight drained corpse of Oscar De La Hoya at 147lbs.
Meanwhile most people feel Marquez beat Pacquiao the second time out, including even a number of Filipino Newspapers and sportswriters. I mean shit, if you got the other guy's fans saying they thought you won, what more do you need?
Then Marquez moves up to 135 and schools and dominates the Lineal Champion in Casamayor, and knocks him out. Something nobody would've predicted.
Then he takes on the #1 guy in the division, Juan Diaz. The #1 Contender who is 10 years younger, much bigger, and stronger, and in his prime, something Pacquiao has NEVER done. Marquez battles Diaz in a epic war and knocks him out.
Marquez > Pacquiao.