He was clearly winning the fight then just completely stopped fighting. I don't get it. Now Marquez is landing tons of punches and has him cut. Why would a volume puncher with a pressure style just stop fighting all of a sudden?
Diaz dont know how to react to being cut,this is the second time he has done this!!
again, I'm talking about before the cut. If anything, the cut made him fight a great round 9 until he got caught.
He was clearly winning the fight then just completely stopped fighting. I don't get it. Now Marquez is landing tons of punches and has him cut. Why would a volume puncher with a pressure style just stop fighting all of a sudden?
Because he realized that they both Mexicans and they should not be fighting each other.....:D
His defense is usally better than what we saw late last night though. I think he just tried to attack too much and got ****ed up.
well, when you have a guy almost down in the 2nd round, I know you don't come out boxing in the next round. you don't want to overextend yourself, true, but you don't just quit with the pressure. that 3rd round is what is truly inexplicable, but in that round Shields clearly asked for a boxing round.
I used to like Shields, but man that is some bad corner work
I think Diaz was just following corners instructions. He said many times in interviews after the Nate Campbell fight he would do whatever they tell him from now on. He says thats part of the reason he lost to nate campbell because he wanted to fight they way he wanted, not what the corner thought was best
that is much more plausible. and again, I'm not saying Diaz would have won this fight. I am saying it makes no sense to deviate from something that is working to perfection early. Marquez could have figured him out anyway, but Diaz certainly made it easier for him by deciding he was a boxer all of a sudden.
I don't remember what Diaz said in the post fight, but if he said the body shots slowed him down, then I'll give up the argument. I know Marquez said the body shots made the difference and that's why everyone on here is saying that, but I'd like to hear from Diaz.
LOL hahahaha you retard you didn't want to get spoiled but you came to a boxing site??? holy god you are one of the most retarded humans ever born.
no shit. the main headline immediately tells you who won so if he clicked boxingscene at all he knew who won before hitting up the forums
I think Diaz was just following corners instructions. He said many times in interviews after the Nate Campbell fight he would do whatever they tell him from now on. He says thats part of the reason he lost to nate campbell because he wanted to fight they way he wanted, not what the corner thought was best
I just watched round 5 and 6 again. Diaz has a great round 5. Marquez gets in about 5 good shots but never dissuades Diaz from coming forward and Diaz finishes the round landing the better shots. Marquez suffers a cut over his right eye.
Round 6 Diaz comes out and clearly wins the first minute and a half of the round. Diaz then goes for about 25 seconds without taking hard punches and without throwing any, so Marquez lands some good stuff in the following stretch but nothing Diaz hadn't already felt in all the other rounds. He also doesn't give any impression he's hurt as he keeps coming forward. With about 30 seconds left, Diaz looks frustrated and goes on the attack, but Marquez gets the best of him. Diaz basically spends the last minute only throwing retaliation punches, which is not his thing. He's a pressure fighter, so what made him stop pressuring is my question. He hasn't been shown to tire. He didn't even tire until around round 10 against Nate.
I also need to add that there isn't a lot of investment by Marquez to the body in these 2 rounds.
I don't buy that for a second. Marquez got next to nothing done until rounds 6-9. I gave him round 3 only because that was the round Shields told Diaz to "box" in. The corner advice was terrible. Unless Diaz told Shields he was winded or hurt, I don't understand the call to box, especially after that 2nd round when he almost KO'd Marquez.
Seems like the easy answer is for everyone to say Diaz got hurt and that's why he stopped, but there was no evidence of that. He just took to plodding around the ring literally out of nowhere.
There's nothing to buy. After the first few rounds he was getting hit with some devastating shots. He just did a decent job of hiding it by smothering Marquez with his combos.
Plus he got tired. You can't keep up the pace he had for the entire fight, especially when your opponent is investing heavy to the body.
Marquez won the fight I believe. I don't think Diaz lost the fight because what he wasn't doing. Marquez took away the left hook that was landing and Diaz had to try and go to the body. Then once he did Marquez started shooting upstairs and hurt him noticeably.
He didn't stop anything. He was getting ****ed up that's why the momentum of the fight switched. Over all the yelling of Lampley for Diaz combos, he was taking some real heat from Marquez that hurt him bad.
I don't buy that for a second. Marquez got next to nothing done until rounds 6-9. I gave him round 3 only because that was the round Shields told Diaz to "box" in. The corner advice was terrible. Unless Diaz told Shields he was winded or hurt, I don't understand the call to box, especially after that 2nd round when he almost KO'd Marquez.
Seems like the easy answer is for everyone to say Diaz got hurt and that's why he stopped, but there was no evidence of that. He just took to plodding around the ring literally out of nowhere.
He didn't stop anything. He was getting ****ed up that's why the momentum of the fight switched. Over all the yelling of Lampley for Diaz combos, he was taking some real heat from Marquez that hurt him bad.
I was thinking the same thing, I said to my brother "Did he just break his hand or something?"
I mean it seemed totally weird. Marquez may have won anyway and showed a lot of poise at age 35 to go to war like that, but still. You'd have to be blind to not notice that Diaz just stopped fighting in round 6 and didn't pick it up again until round 9. I thought he broke his hand at first too because he just flat out stopped what was working.
He was clearly winning the fight then just completely stopped fighting. I don't get it. Now Marquez is landing tons of punches and has him cut. Why would a volume puncher with a pressure style just stop fighting all of a sudden?
I was thinking the same thing, I said to my brother "Did he just break his hand or something?"
Cuz he didn't want to fight no more after the cut, just like against Campbell. Little college boy has no heart.
I kind of agree, but this was before the cut happened. Diaz looked incredible the first two rounds, then Shields asked him for a BOXING round? I couldn't believe that. That's just terrible corner work because Marquez definitely won the 3rd round and got back into the fight after he had been hurt in the 2nd.
A lot of you are missing the point. I am asking why he quit pressing in round 6. He hadn't taken many body punches at that point. It wasn't until round 6 that Marquez started destroying him to the body, but I'm asking why Diaz came out plodding that round when he was clearly winning the fight with his pressure.
He was clearly winning the fight then just completely stopped fighting. I don't get it. Now Marquez is landing tons of punches and has him cut. Why would a volume puncher with a pressure style just stop fighting all of a sudden?
Hes not winning.. Marquez just let diaz show what he got but then marquez got bored and said **** it I'm gonna finish this and then bam!! You all know what happened...
What a total dumbass. Great performance by Marquez, but Diaz totally gave the fight away
Like I said well in advance, Marquez would cut Diaz and hurt him