Promoters are the worst thing to ever happen to boxing

Say all you want about there being to many weight divisions, to many sanctioning bodies, whatever.. it all comes down to the promoters being the worst thing to happen to this sport. I was just reading an article about kelly pavlik on espn, dan rafael was sayin how bob arum said arthur abraham needs to gain more recognition to get a fight with pavlik. I just wanna know why now to have a shot at the champ being the best opponent out there for him is not enough. It sickens me that Pavlik and Abraham will likely go another year without fighting, and the worst part is pavlik will fight probably 2 more times this year and to see those fights we will probably have to pay 50 dollars to see him wash up a bum. Dont give me the "ooohhh boxing is a business" bullshit cause baseball is a business and every year the yankees play the red sox. And its not like these guys are going broke the whole problem is "they want 8 million instead of 7" or some shit like that. Pavlik is my favorite fighter but in my mind he is not the champ until he beats abraham or abraham loses. I would rather pay 50 dollars to see bob arum fight dlh then to see pavlik fight another guy like rubio. This is the end of my rant

Comments (16)

Danny_Gunz

You mean like a uniform organization that controls boxing, like a league of some sort? I don't like to be a pessimist but realistically, the powers of boxing aren't about organization in boxing, otherwise it would have happened. They like the splintering of the sport, being able to play the cards they have and control. Well yeah i know, Im not trying to start a revolution in boxing im just complaining about it. In my eyes its been broken beyond repair at this point

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

I mean have something like the UFC has rather than what boxing is doing with promoters You mean like a uniform organization that controls boxing, like a league of some sort? I don't like to be a pessimist but realistically, the powers of boxing aren't about organization in boxing, otherwise it would have happened. They like the splintering of the sport, being able to play the cards they have and control.

17y ago

Danny_Gunz

I mean have something like the UFC has rather than what boxing is doing with promoters

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

This is what I was gettin at. At the superstar level, it can be done more feasibly. Beyond that, like em or not promoters are pretty much necessary for a fighter. At the superstar level, you still have to focus on the fight. If they want to invest their own money and have network backing, that's one thing. But there are so many ways that a show can go wrong and not many boxers take the time out to educate themselves about the business.

17y ago

The_Gambler1981

Boxers let promoters control their ****ing careers, that's the problem. I was going to say that but could not come up with what I wanted to say. Promoters "should" work for fighters not the other way around.

17y ago

Reggie_Miller

Boxers let promoters control their ****ing careers, that's the problem.

17y ago

MANGLER

So instead of training, he is putting up his own money to the venue, negotiating television deals, dealing on a personal basis with the matchmaker to get the opponents squared away, making sure that everyone is doing their jobs... Also he is training for a boxing match and sparring. That doesn't make much sense to me, personally. This is what I was gettin at. At the superstar level, it can be done more feasibly. Beyond that, like em or not promoters are pretty much necessary for a fighter.

17y ago

Newyorkknicks07

I always looked upon promoting as more of a double-edged sword kind of thing. I mean, on the one hand, the sport has been financially dependent on promoters. I mean, De La Hoya-Mayweather would not have sold nearly as great as it did, if not for the type of promotion it recieved. But it's a double edged sword like i said. Boxing loses a lot of business when somebody watches a real hyped up fight for the first time and it turns out to be a shit bout. People say "hm, i guess everybody else is right. I guess boxing is an old-man thing." And of course there's the Don King and Bob Arum type characters who basically rob fighters of victories and earnings. In the end though, boxing needs the promoters, they're part of the sport.

17y ago

Boxer1590

How would we watch and go to fights without promoters? Promoters put everything together.

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

They are necessary evils, at least for younger fighters. Once a fighter knows the game and can promote himself, he's in a better position. So instead of training, he is putting up his own money to the venue, negotiating television deals, dealing on a personal basis with the matchmaker to get the opponents squared away, making sure that everyone is doing their jobs... Also he is training for a boxing match and sparring. That doesn't make much sense to me, personally.

17y ago

MANGLER

They are necessary evils, at least for younger fighters. Once a fighter knows the game and can promote himself, he's in a better position.

17y ago

OnePunch1099

well, if there were no promoters, who would risk the money to do these shows, and make the investment in developing fighters?

17y ago

Mr_Ryan

Hahahahahahahaha! No disrespect intended, but you have to reevaluate that statement. Crooked, corrupt boxing promoters are the worst thing to happen to boxing, but promoters are essential. Without a promoter, how would the fights be materialized? Would they just fight in a gym and charge at the door? Boxers aren't promoters, promoters are promoters, just as managers are managers and trainers are trainers. You need a promoter to make money in this business, someone has to advertise, work out deals with TV and venues, find the opponents, sell tickets. There is a lot more to boxing than just the fighting. I agree, corrupt promoters are a sore spot in boxing, power corrupts all. They know the fighters need the fights, they need the television coverage so if they feel they hold all the cards, they're going to use it to their advantage. Sadly, boxing is a culture of corruption.

17y ago

thebowtod

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17y ago

cassiusthegreat

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17y ago

thebowtod

and pavlik wanted to face AA, gosh dang, promoters suck!

17y ago