Mayweather was at several weight classes. He may have not fought the all of best at Welter, but guess what, that's because he was not a Welter. He did his job at 130 and 135 and has plenty of Prime v Prime wins
As for joe..lol.. I'm not even going to waste my time with joe
Look, this is something we hear every single day. It's been happening for years. Look up any Mayweather or Calzaghe thread and you will see exactly the same trash being talked. It's not in the slightest bit interesting.
I give you props for such a great avatar (LOL) but this thread is dumb. Why do you need to ask a question that has been answered 40,000 times?
Samurai, you speak sense
all im saying is that calzaghe and mayweather have great records but did not fight the best. Do you agree?
Look, this is something we hear every single day. It's been happening for years. Look up any Mayweather or Calzaghe thread and you will see exactly the same trash being talked. It's not in the slightest bit interesting.
I give you props for such a great avatar (LOL) but this thread is dumb. Why do you need to ask a question that has been answered 40,000 times?
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Resume + acheivment wise i agree not close at all
Mayweather demolishing a semi-dangerous Judah is still a good acheivment though...
Yup agreed. Good win for Floyd. Regardless, Zab is not in Marquez's league. Fans need to get a clue.
And my point is, regardless, don't compare him to Zab. It ain't even close.
Resume + acheivment wise i agree not close at all
Mayweather demolishing a semi-dangerous Judah is still a good acheivment though...
all im saying is that calzaghe and mayweather have great records but did not fight the best. Do you agree?Ok let me put it this way.
Who genuinely did Calzaghe not fight at 168 and who genuinely did PBF not fight lww and below?
For me a younger Hopkins and RJJ is all Calzaghe didn't fight and Tzsyu is the only one PBF didn't fight.
Calzaghe resume is the product of a weak ass division and to be honest bar the two mentioned LHW was pretty awful aswell, no one wioll ever convince me that Glen johnson is world class or ever has been, tarver is known solely for beating a shot RJJ.
PBF is a SFW/LW so why give him grief for not fighting guys who are massive WW's?
The last two fights for each fighter was purely for money, I don't put Calzaghe in the top 100 P4P so I don't judge his resume based on top 100 P4P, I don't put PBF top 20 P4P so i don't judge his resume based on top 20 P4P.
You can count the number of people who have calzaghe top 50 P4P on one hand, yet he draws the flack as though people need to argue that he isn't against a tide of raving madmen.
seriously you havebt answered my question..."whinning"naw ni99a...he lost to pacman and chris john and barley beat barrerra..a nd he beat an old cassamayor....and who else...
Yeah...he also drew with pacman which is better than...oh, any victory Judah's ever had?
And you got some nerve talking about Marquez barely beat MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA when Judah barely beat...RAFAEL PINEDA. You wanna go on about losses? Please, take a look at Zab.
Just stop.
seriously you havebt answered my question..."whinning"naw ni99a...he lost to pacman and chris john and barley beat barrerra..a nd he beat an old cassamayor....and who else...
Well in that regard... hes already past Zab.
Diaz is a shitty journeyman who beat and old and faded Morales coming off 3 defeats and fighting 3 weight divisions above his natural weight class.
That was and remains his only "significant" win, he was put in the ring purely as a punchbag so morales could have an easy belt and Morales was so shot he lost. Diaz is so bad it was a close desicion.
David Diaz is the US Amir Khan, won a medal, got protected until he got in the ring with someone good then got Brutally KO'd in a one sided fight before being manufactured a belt against a shot legend.
all im saying is that calzaghe and mayweather have great records but did not fight the best. Do you agree?
who has jmm beat????
I'm beginning to lose faith in you. You got another thread up whining about Manny Pacquiao and now you're asking me who Marquez "beat" when he fought that same person to two fights that could've gone either way. And you wanna ask that corny "who did he beat" sh*t?
F*ck outta here.
Don't compare Zab Judah to Juan Manuel Marquez. Seriously.
man i was simply comparing opponents..but really who the hell has jmm beat
Larry...don't even start with me. Seriously. Judah to Marquez??
Fukkouttahere. You should know better than that.
Diaz was the wbc (most significant of the belts) and former olympian.
Diaz is a shitty journeyman who beat and old and faded Morales coming off 3 defeats and fighting 3 weight divisions above his natural weight class.
That was and remains his only "significant" win, he was put in the ring purely as a punchbag so morales could have an easy belt and Morales was so shot he lost. Diaz is so bad it was a close desicion.
David Diaz is the US Amir Khan, won a medal, got protected until he got in the ring with someone good then got Brutally KO'd in a one sided fight before being manufactured a belt against a shot legend.
reed those are comparable opponents..i didnt say who was better..but people act like floyd fought no 1..and thats a lie..as a jones fan you should relate
I dont think Judah and Marquez are comparable...